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  • A AspDotNetDev

    Rather than be very generic and make a "thank you" letter, I recommend merely expressing your excitement and conveying some of the knowledge you gained. This is a less obvious way to kiss ass show appreciation. For example:

    CodingLover might write:

    Hi Boss-Man-John-Doe, I just got back from the Internet Security workshop I attended over the last two days. Wow. I cannot wait to dig through our code and implement a few best practices to patch up our rocket surgery software. I've seen a few people on the team use string concatenation to form SQL queries. At the workshop, one of the presenters, Jack Johnson, explained exactly why this puts software at risk and how to remedy it. I myself have written similarly vulnerable code. Once I explain this and similar concepts to the rest of the team, I'm sure we'll be well on our way to having rock solid security. I learned a lot at this workshop and I can't thank you enough for ensuring I got the chance to attend! Thanks Again, CodingLover

    Some key points to keep in mind: have a purpose other than kissing ass (but feel free to kiss a little ass in the process), use a clear example of how the workshop will help the company, you can be both casual and professional at the same time. It lets your boss know that he made the right decision (opening you up to future opportunities) while making it appear as if that's not your motive (even if it isn't, the letter you wrote might convey that as an underlying motive). Also make sure to consider your audience... if your boss isn't highly technical, you wouldn't want to mention something like "forming SQL queries with string concatenation".

    Somebody in an online forum wrote:

    INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.

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    Thanks you for the interesting comment.

    I appreciate your help all the time... CodingLover :)

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      Rather than be very generic and make a "thank you" letter, I recommend merely expressing your excitement and conveying some of the knowledge you gained. This is a less obvious way to kiss ass show appreciation. For example:

      CodingLover might write:

      Hi Boss-Man-John-Doe, I just got back from the Internet Security workshop I attended over the last two days. Wow. I cannot wait to dig through our code and implement a few best practices to patch up our rocket surgery software. I've seen a few people on the team use string concatenation to form SQL queries. At the workshop, one of the presenters, Jack Johnson, explained exactly why this puts software at risk and how to remedy it. I myself have written similarly vulnerable code. Once I explain this and similar concepts to the rest of the team, I'm sure we'll be well on our way to having rock solid security. I learned a lot at this workshop and I can't thank you enough for ensuring I got the chance to attend! Thanks Again, CodingLover

      Some key points to keep in mind: have a purpose other than kissing ass (but feel free to kiss a little ass in the process), use a clear example of how the workshop will help the company, you can be both casual and professional at the same time. It lets your boss know that he made the right decision (opening you up to future opportunities) while making it appear as if that's not your motive (even if it isn't, the letter you wrote might convey that as an underlying motive). Also make sure to consider your audience... if your boss isn't highly technical, you wouldn't want to mention something like "forming SQL queries with string concatenation".

      Somebody in an online forum wrote:

      INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.

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      Roger Wright
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      Excellent improvement! You're right, it is much more effective to mention, even if only in passing, a few of the direct benefits to the company that will be realized from the training. This helps to remind the boss that training is an investment, not an expense, and it has a payoff. It may also provide him or her some ammunition to take upstairs for the battle to increase training budgets, if she's inclined to make that argument.

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      • C CodingLover

        Thanks you for the interesting comment.

        I appreciate your help all the time... CodingLover :)

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        Roger Wright
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        Heed it, and see my response to the same post for the reason why you should. Good luck! You're well on your way to learning how to properly manage managers. It's an art, not a science, so they don't teach it in school.

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        • C CodingLover

          Hi all, I want to write a thanking letter to my boss, regarding an opportunity given to me to attend a workshop. At the same time I want to keep it simple. So wrote the following. Can you guys comment on it please.

          Dear Sir,

          I would like to express my sincere gratitude for the opportunity on "Internet Security" workshop on lat two days. You provide me the opportunity I seek.

          I assure you that I would definitely utilize the knowledge gain during that session and be a value-added addition to our company.

          I appreciate your help all the time... CodingLover :)

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          Instead of putting this stuff on paper, mention it to him personally when you walk into him in the office.

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            Instead of putting this stuff on paper, mention it to him personally when you walk into him in the office.

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            Roger Wright
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            when you walk into him in the office.

            Egads! I'm hoping that he doesn't go to work that drunk! That's okay for accountants, but software developers are supposed to have some understanding of ethics; showing up knee-walking drunk isn't on the approved list of behaviors, unless you're working for a start-up in Silicon Valley. Or working in Marketing.

            Will Rogers never met me.

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            • C CodingLover

              Hi all, I want to write a thanking letter to my boss, regarding an opportunity given to me to attend a workshop. At the same time I want to keep it simple. So wrote the following. Can you guys comment on it please.

              Dear Sir,

              I would like to express my sincere gratitude for the opportunity on "Internet Security" workshop on lat two days. You provide me the opportunity I seek.

              I assure you that I would definitely utilize the knowledge gain during that session and be a value-added addition to our company.

              I appreciate your help all the time... CodingLover :)

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              NormDroid
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              Just cut the crap and ask him for a gimp mask.

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              • R Roger Wright

                Heed it, and see my response to the same post for the reason why you should. Good luck! You're well on your way to learning how to properly manage managers. It's an art, not a science, so they don't teach it in school.

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                Rick York
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                Very good point Roger. It always takes me a while to train my managers and it doesn't always work out well. When it doesn't I know a new job opportunity is in my future.

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                • R Roger Wright

                  V. wrote:

                  when you walk into him in the office.

                  Egads! I'm hoping that he doesn't go to work that drunk! That's okay for accountants, but software developers are supposed to have some understanding of ethics; showing up knee-walking drunk isn't on the approved list of behaviors, unless you're working for a start-up in Silicon Valley. Or working in Marketing.

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  Nagy Vilmos
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                  Roger Wright wrote:

                  Or working in Marketing.

                  For them it's mandatory. I never turn up at the office drunk. Now leaving, that's another matter. :laugh:


                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    Of the answers you've received so far, the one from Josh is the only one that is phrased in proper English, if that matters. In the West, we do not use a lot of "Dear" phrasing, and find it unpleasant to read, but I understand that in other parts of the world it is considered properly respectful. Use your own judgement. It is entirely proper to express appreciation to a supervisor for a beneficial assignment, if it is done in a professional manner. Don't let the "ass-kissing" comments throw you, but don't become overtly subservient, either. In many cultures, this is a sign of respect, and there is nothing unprofessional about it. In fact, I think it's quite thoughtful, and respect is a value that I've watched fall into disuse in western society over the past few decades; the loss has lessened us all. Carry on!

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    hairy_hats
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                    Roger Wright wrote:

                    In the West, we do not use a lot of "Dear" phrasing, and find it unpleasant to read

                    Speak for yourself. :) I receive a lot of business correspondence starting "Dear" and unless you know the sender well, I think it looks too informal, and not business-like, without it.

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                    • A AspDotNetDev

                      Rather than be very generic and make a "thank you" letter, I recommend merely expressing your excitement and conveying some of the knowledge you gained. This is a less obvious way to kiss ass show appreciation. For example:

                      CodingLover might write:

                      Hi Boss-Man-John-Doe, I just got back from the Internet Security workshop I attended over the last two days. Wow. I cannot wait to dig through our code and implement a few best practices to patch up our rocket surgery software. I've seen a few people on the team use string concatenation to form SQL queries. At the workshop, one of the presenters, Jack Johnson, explained exactly why this puts software at risk and how to remedy it. I myself have written similarly vulnerable code. Once I explain this and similar concepts to the rest of the team, I'm sure we'll be well on our way to having rock solid security. I learned a lot at this workshop and I can't thank you enough for ensuring I got the chance to attend! Thanks Again, CodingLover

                      Some key points to keep in mind: have a purpose other than kissing ass (but feel free to kiss a little ass in the process), use a clear example of how the workshop will help the company, you can be both casual and professional at the same time. It lets your boss know that he made the right decision (opening you up to future opportunities) while making it appear as if that's not your motive (even if it isn't, the letter you wrote might convey that as an underlying motive). Also make sure to consider your audience... if your boss isn't highly technical, you wouldn't want to mention something like "forming SQL queries with string concatenation".

                      Somebody in an online forum wrote:

                      INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.

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                      hairy_hats
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                      I wouldn't put "Hi" and "Wow" into a formal or semi-formal business letter like this.

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                      • R Roger Wright

                        Of the answers you've received so far, the one from Josh is the only one that is phrased in proper English, if that matters. In the West, we do not use a lot of "Dear" phrasing, and find it unpleasant to read, but I understand that in other parts of the world it is considered properly respectful. Use your own judgement. It is entirely proper to express appreciation to a supervisor for a beneficial assignment, if it is done in a professional manner. Don't let the "ass-kissing" comments throw you, but don't become overtly subservient, either. In many cultures, this is a sign of respect, and there is nothing unprofessional about it. In fact, I think it's quite thoughtful, and respect is a value that I've watched fall into disuse in western society over the past few decades; the loss has lessened us all. Carry on!

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        I feel that you might be mixing up respect with politeness. But I'm probably wrong.

                        Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          Of the answers you've received so far, the one from Josh is the only one that is phrased in proper English, if that matters. In the West, we do not use a lot of "Dear" phrasing, and find it unpleasant to read, but I understand that in other parts of the world it is considered properly respectful. Use your own judgement. It is entirely proper to express appreciation to a supervisor for a beneficial assignment, if it is done in a professional manner. Don't let the "ass-kissing" comments throw you, but don't become overtly subservient, either. In many cultures, this is a sign of respect, and there is nothing unprofessional about it. In fact, I think it's quite thoughtful, and respect is a value that I've watched fall into disuse in western society over the past few decades; the loss has lessened us all. Carry on!

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          Slacker007
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                          Well said.

                          Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                          "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                          • J Jorgen Andersson

                            I feel that you might be mixing up respect with politeness. But I'm probably wrong.

                            Light moves faster than sound. That is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak. List of common misconceptions

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                            Roger Wright
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                            You may be right, but I do think that respect for others and politeness are two side of the same coin.

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            • H hairy_hats

                              I wouldn't put "Hi" and "Wow" into a formal or semi-formal business letter like this.

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                              AspDotNetDev
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                              I would call it a "note", not a "letter". This would be entirely acceptable if I sent it to my boss, but we are comfortable communicating somewhat casually (e.g., he has sent me an email saying "I so want to incorporate this into our site!" with a link to something neat).

                              Somebody in an online forum wrote:

                              INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.

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                                Instead of putting this stuff on paper, mention it to him personally when you walk into him in the office.

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                                CodingLover
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                                This is sounds good actually.

                                I appreciate your help all the time... CodingLover :)

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  You may be right, but I do think that respect for others and politeness are two side of the same coin.

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Roger Wright wrote:

                                  You may be right, but I do think that respect for others and politeness are two side of the same coin.

                                  I think they're different, to my mind respect is what you (may) have for someone you know - ie they've done something to deserve or loose your respect. Politeness (or rudeness) is something you offer to all, even those you don't know. It's polite to help an old lady cross the road but if you get to know her you may find you don't respect her.

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                                  • R Roger Wright

                                    Heed it, and see my response to the same post for the reason why you should. Good luck! You're well on your way to learning how to properly manage managers. It's an art, not a science, so they don't teach it in school.

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    CodingLover
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                                    This is really a good point. And going on all the comments above, I see that this is mainly depend on culture, and attitudes. As you said it cannot learn from college. We have to discover ourselves. Anyway, thanks for the comment.

                                    I appreciate your help all the time... CodingLover :)

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