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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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    Single Step Debugger
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    Every ordering based on any logical criteria will be more confusing for the user then alphabetical order. And I don’t know how easy will be detecting the Country by IP. You probably will have to use a third party service.

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list

      Oddly, that annoys me. It would be better IMO if the list/combo remained alphabetically ordered and it scrolled to U.S. I would only have to press one key to hit U.K. then. Allright, I admit it. I'm a lazy toad!

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      Yes, it annoys me too. Pre-selecting a default is ok (though it would be better if it used IP or user agent locale information to pick it rather than being fixed, that way it would be right for almost everyone), but it should scroll the list, not put the default at the top. That's not even close to hard.

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        That's nothing. On the wizzair.com[^] web check-in page, you have to provide nationality and passport issuer. Now, it may be required BUT: 0. Since when is United Kingdom a nationality? It's British, just as it should be Hungarian not Hungary, German not Germany or Usian not USA. Get it right, use the demonym! 1. How many people will be selecting two different countries? If I selected United Kingdom [British] for my nationality, I will not be getting my passport from Turkmenistan! Link the frigging picklists! Also, while I'm ranting, use some f'ing date controls! Three picklists is not the frogging same!


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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

          Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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          Speaking of annoying. What about CAPTCHA? I understand the need and purpose, but some implementations I've come across are so difficult to discern, they render any attempts to input, completely useless. Yeah, I'm old and I wear glasses, but my eyes are not that bad. :) For example. See here[^]. On the hand right side, the lower set of three examples. I'd fail on two of those three. The middle one. Does it start with "3rn" or is it "3m".

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            Speaking of annoying. What about CAPTCHA? I understand the need and purpose, but some implementations I've come across are so difficult to discern, they render any attempts to input, completely useless. Yeah, I'm old and I wear glasses, but my eyes are not that bad. :) For example. See here[^]. On the hand right side, the lower set of three examples. I'd fail on two of those three. The middle one. Does it start with "3rn" or is it "3m".

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            Chris Meech wrote:

            What about CAPTCHA?

            I usually get them right in the third or fourth attempt.

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              Chris Meech wrote:

              What about CAPTCHA?

              I usually get them right in the third or fourth attempt.

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              You've more perseverance than I. Even worse are the sites that when you fail on the first attempt, everything you've typed in is lost and you have to start over. :mad:

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Because of our client base and their locations we put all of the English speaking countries first (UK, US, Canada, etc), then Europe then everywhere else. It took a while to decide upon the best sort order but it seems to work.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  Chris Meech wrote:

                  What about CAPTCHA?

                  I usually get them right in the third or fourth attempt.

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                  Me too sometimes. Here[^] a funny one

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                    You've more perseverance than I. Even worse are the sites that when you fail on the first attempt, everything you've typed in is lost and you have to start over. :mad:

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    I usually play the audio. That's easier than trying to figure out what the stupid image means.

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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                      Roger Wright
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                      And furthermore... Why has no one made a list control with Intellisense? So often I have to select a state, and of course, Alabama and Alaska come before Arizona, so I have to scroll down to reach it. Would it be so hard to make a control that advances through the list as I type? Besides, when I encounter these things I hate having to switch from keyboard to mouse for just one field on a form. It would make sense to use pattern matching in such a way that as I type in the state (or country) name, the selection would shift to the best match in the list.

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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                        It reminds me of this (3rd picture): http://theoatmeal.com/comics/shopping_cart[^]

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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                          Rutvik Dave
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                          I agree, I always thought of creating one more column on the country list table,

                          weight

                          then assign some 'makes sense' values, later adjust the weight based on the number of visitors from different country and then sort the list

                          by weight,name

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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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                            peterchen
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                            Adding to the annoyance, they sometimes use localized country names, sometimes they don't. That puts me either near Ghana or near Dänemark.

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                            • R R Giskard Reventlov

                              Because of our client base and their locations we put all of the English speaking countries first (UK, US, Canada, etc), then Europe then everywhere else. It took a while to decide upon the best sort order but it seems to work.

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                              You're taking the risk of infuriating the people that are not in the 'favorites' list though.

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                                And furthermore... Why has no one made a list control with Intellisense? So often I have to select a state, and of course, Alabama and Alaska come before Arizona, so I have to scroll down to reach it. Would it be so hard to make a control that advances through the list as I type? Besides, when I encounter these things I hate having to switch from keyboard to mouse for just one field on a form. It would make sense to use pattern matching in such a way that as I type in the state (or country) name, the selection would shift to the best match in the list.

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                                BobJanova
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                                They have ... a search for autocomplete+AJAX will turn up a vast array of hits. And this one doesn't even need AJAX, it's client side Javascript.

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                                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                  Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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                                  Pascal Ganaye
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                                  The worst scenario is when your Country can be designated with different names and you have to scroll up and down to see which is available. ie:

                                  Angleterre
                                  England
                                  Engeland
                                  Inglaterra
                                  Great Britain
                                  Grande Bretagne
                                  Reino Unido
                                  United Kingdom
                                  UK
                                  ...

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                                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                    Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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                                    Jason Hooper
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                                    I haven't had to input country in quite a while, since Chrome does it for me. Too bad though, since I became quite accustomed to the typical CCC<tab.> Cambodia, Cameroon, Canada, <tab> :)

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                                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                      Oftentimes, the country selection combo-box includes all the countries. The top selection is almost always Afghanistan. Now if those websites even have a single visitor from Afghanistan, I can think of it being justified. To select united states either you have to use scroll the big selection or press the U button and go through Uganda, United Kingdom and the finally United States. If you are a US based site targeted towards Americans why not make US the first choice in the list. If you want to show of your programming skills why not automatically select the country based on IP address to ease things a little bit.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      There are also those websites that select a language based on your IP address, and then do not let you change it. Just because I'm in the Netherlands doesn't mean I want to read anything in Dutch, especially not if it's a completely broken translation (which it usually is)

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                                        Speaking of annoying. What about CAPTCHA? I understand the need and purpose, but some implementations I've come across are so difficult to discern, they render any attempts to input, completely useless. Yeah, I'm old and I wear glasses, but my eyes are not that bad. :) For example. See here[^]. On the hand right side, the lower set of three examples. I'd fail on two of those three. The middle one. Does it start with "3rn" or is it "3m".

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                                        Albert Holguin
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                                        Yep, completely understand the need for them... but they do get annoying... X|

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                                          It reminds me of this (3rd picture): http://theoatmeal.com/comics/shopping_cart[^]

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                                          Albert Holguin
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                                          Hey! ...that's where I get my Koala meat from!

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