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  • S Shabana Parveen

    Checking my emails I fumbled into a article refered as link about bad programming http://badprogrammer.infogami.com/[^] I really do not believe the crap mentioned there for indentation, white spaces or unused variable(I should have added these are not major faults but nice to learn that doesn't mean u r n idiot). I myself not clean person while coding but that doesn't mean we do not know logic. How the author can be judgemental and arrogant, he/she even suggested alternate career.

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    Pete OHanlon
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    ShabanaParveen wrote:

    I myself not clean person while coding but that doesn't mean we do not know logic.

    You're right, it doesn't. It does mean, though, that when I come along three weeks later to fix something in your code you have just made my job a lot harder than it needs to be. What it points to, is that you aren't necessarily not suited for a career as a programmer, just that you are lazy and inconsiderate.

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    • S Shabana Parveen

      Checking my emails I fumbled into a article refered as link about bad programming http://badprogrammer.infogami.com/[^] I really do not believe the crap mentioned there for indentation, white spaces or unused variable(I should have added these are not major faults but nice to learn that doesn't mean u r n idiot). I myself not clean person while coding but that doesn't mean we do not know logic. How the author can be judgemental and arrogant, he/she even suggested alternate career.

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      Lost User
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      I think the author nailed it. Plenty of examples to be found right here every day.

      Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman

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      • R Roger Wright

        I don't care how logical you are; if you write code that is hard to read, hard to maintain, and hard to test you should seriously consider another career path. I don't care how brilliant you may think yourself to be, if you work for me, and the rest of my staff can't understand what you've written, nor maintain it effectively years from now, you're fired. I don't need your arrogance, or incompetence to drag my organization down. The proper use of white space, indentation, and simply cleaning up after yourself when you're done by removing unused variables is simple housekeeping, and failing to do so greatly increases the life-cycle cost of your products. The cost of your output in code, in case you're not aware of it, is about one fifth the total cost of supporting it through its life cycle. If your lousy habits and general laziness add to the support costs of keeping your products viable, nobody needs you. Go back to flipping burgers, or herding sheep - whatever you're good at. You're certainly contributing nothing of value to the software development world. Go away, get out of our world - you have nothing to offer, and we have no need of your imaginary skills.

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        Shabana Parveen
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        Well Roger, First of all I am not against learning or cleaning the code ... but suggestion for alternate careers is really sad and that is what I my comment was for!!! And from your reply, it seems you have personal problem hence you are commenting get out of world and so and so.... This world belong to everyone. I m dissappointed that learned people such closed mind... Anyway speak what you want to speak!!!

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          ShabanaParveen wrote:

          I myself not clean person while coding but that doesn't mean we do not know logic.

          You're right, it doesn't. It does mean, though, that when I come along three weeks later to fix something in your code you have just made my job a lot harder than it needs to be. What it points to, is that you aren't necessarily not suited for a career as a programmer, just that you are lazy and inconsiderate.

          Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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          Shabana Parveen
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          Thanks Pete, learning doesn't hurt and it is always good but suggesting peopl other career.. Looking down is not at all right attitude... There is always someone better than you is my philosphy so always I find it disconcerting when people looked down at others. They can be at receiving end too...

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            I think the author nailed it. Plenty of examples to be found right here every day.

            Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman

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            Shabana Parveen
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            I do agree with this... but my problem is only with career suggestions!!

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            • S Shabana Parveen

              I do agree with this... but my problem is only with career suggestions!!

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              What problem? They are only suggestions and in the author's opinion. You may not agree with them but that does not make you right and the author wrong; just that you have differing views.

              Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman

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                ShabanaParveen wrote:

                indentation, white spaces or unused variable

                So, you're telling us that you don't indent code or use white space for formatting, and declare and possibly initialise variables that you then don't use?

                ShabanaParveen wrote:

                I myself not clean person while coding

                I'll resist the temptation to joke about personal hygiene, but frankly, if your code is messy (and, if it's not indented or laid out nicely, and is full of variables that aren't actually used then it is) I don't want to have to work on it.

                ShabanaParveen wrote:

                that doesn't mean we do not know logic.

                No, it doesn't . And knowing logic alone does not a good programmer make.

                ShabanaParveen wrote:

                How the author can be judgmental and arrogant

                ShabanaParveen wrote:

                I am quite sure he will fail in it...

                Surely you're being "judgmental and arrogant" here? Also, the article is about 10 pages long, and you hone in one one or two small aspects to vent your angst upon? I await your first CodeProject article with bated breath :)

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                Shabana Parveen
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                I agree with being being judgement and arrogant here!!! that tells do not point fingers on others becoz all other fingers will be pointing towards you... :-O

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                • S Shabana Parveen

                  Checking my emails I fumbled into a article refered as link about bad programming http://badprogrammer.infogami.com/[^] I really do not believe the crap mentioned there for indentation, white spaces or unused variable(I should have added these are not major faults but nice to learn that doesn't mean u r n idiot). I myself not clean person while coding but that doesn't mean we do not know logic. How the author can be judgemental and arrogant, he/she even suggested alternate career.

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                  ShabanaParveen wrote:

                  u r n idiot

                  The irony just smacks you in the face sometimes... repeatedly...

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    ShabanaParveen wrote:

                    I myself not clean person while coding but that doesn't mean we do not know logic.

                    You're right, it doesn't. It does mean, though, that when I come along three weeks later to fix something in your code you have just made my job a lot harder than it needs to be. What it points to, is that you aren't necessarily not suited for a career as a programmer, just that you are lazy and inconsiderate.

                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                    "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                    You forgot to add an alternative vocation: Wal-mart greeter

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    • S Shabana Parveen

                      Thanks Pete, learning doesn't hurt and it is always good but suggesting peopl other career.. Looking down is not at all right attitude... There is always someone better than you is my philosphy so always I find it disconcerting when people looked down at others. They can be at receiving end too...

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                      I suspect that the intent of the author is more to make you consider how you conduct yourself as a coder. Rather than being too literal about the comments in there, consider that they are more about problems that can be avoided by somebody who's willing to learn.

                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                      "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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