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Can application designed based on MVC pattern for web should be called web application?

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  • S Shabana Parveen

    Can application designed based on MVC pattern for web should be called web application? I don't know but I do not feel like calling it a web application instead I feel it should be better called as browser application!!! I would be very much obliqued if anyone can me to reinforce or help to me look this kind of application in correct light. As for MVC, i personally like the design pattern, but for me it still new and will take time to get very familiar. Here is the wonderful introductory video by Scott Hanselman: http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/matthijs/ASPNET-MVC-2-Basics-Introduction-by-Scott-Hanselman[^][^] I like the way he educate....

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    ShabanaParveen wrote:

    I would be very much obliqued

    I'd be obliged if you'd post a video of that for us all to see. Be safe though... sounds painful.

    Somebody in an online forum wrote:

    INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.

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    • S Shabana Parveen

      Can application designed based on MVC pattern for web should be called web application? I don't know but I do not feel like calling it a web application instead I feel it should be better called as browser application!!! I would be very much obliqued if anyone can me to reinforce or help to me look this kind of application in correct light. As for MVC, i personally like the design pattern, but for me it still new and will take time to get very familiar. Here is the wonderful introductory video by Scott Hanselman: http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/matthijs/ASPNET-MVC-2-Basics-Introduction-by-Scott-Hanselman[^][^] I like the way he educate....

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      No. I am working on a web application that uses the MVP pattern (similar to MVC) but no HTML, no JavaScript and, best of all, no browser. Edit: There also is no Flash, Silverlight or any other of the usual suspects :)

      And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
      "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

      And I smiled and was happy
      And it came worse.

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        No. I am working on a web application that uses the MVP pattern (similar to MVC) but no HTML, no JavaScript and, best of all, no browser. Edit: There also is no Flash, Silverlight or any other of the usual suspects :)

        And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
        "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

        And I smiled and was happy
        And it came worse.

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        CDP1802 wrote:

        I am working on a web application that uses the MVP pattern (similar to MVC) but no HTML, no JavaScript and, best of all, no browser.

        That sounds like an Internet application but not a web application to me. What defines a web application - to me it is use of web technologies. At a minimum HTTP, but generally I'd guess at HTML as well.

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          CDP1802 wrote:

          I am working on a web application that uses the MVP pattern (similar to MVC) but no HTML, no JavaScript and, best of all, no browser.

          That sounds like an Internet application but not a web application to me. What defines a web application - to me it is use of web technologies. At a minimum HTTP, but generally I'd guess at HTML as well.

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          It uses webservices, so there you have your HTTP. The application logic and data access layer on the server can be used just as well if we decided to throw away the client and the webservice and use webpages in the presentation layer again. It behaves like a web application, it uses web technologies for everything but presentation and the data access and application logic layers are identical. I sure think that this a web application and I'm glad not to be limited to HTML and webpages.

          And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
          "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

          And I smiled and was happy
          And it came worse.

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          • S Shabana Parveen

            Can application designed based on MVC pattern for web should be called web application? I don't know but I do not feel like calling it a web application instead I feel it should be better called as browser application!!! I would be very much obliqued if anyone can me to reinforce or help to me look this kind of application in correct light. As for MVC, i personally like the design pattern, but for me it still new and will take time to get very familiar. Here is the wonderful introductory video by Scott Hanselman: http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/matthijs/ASPNET-MVC-2-Basics-Introduction-by-Scott-Hanselman[^][^] I like the way he educate....

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            Chris Maunder
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            Is the application creates a browser then by all means, call it a browser application. If it's simply used by a browser, then I'd call it a web application if it's being access via the web. If you're thinking "yes, but I use a browser to access the app" then we not just go to the source and call it a computer application.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Is the application creates a browser then by all means, call it a browser application. If it's simply used by a browser, then I'd call it a web application if it's being access via the web. If you're thinking "yes, but I use a browser to access the app" then we not just go to the source and call it a computer application.

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Shabana Parveen
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              Yes, it's simply used by a browser, but its controller class is derived from HTTPController and we can directly put our code in controller and update the view without doing anything on traditional ASP.NET events and it will update the view and display in browser. Oh yes, it can be called computer application instead.

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                It uses webservices, so there you have your HTTP. The application logic and data access layer on the server can be used just as well if we decided to throw away the client and the webservice and use webpages in the presentation layer again. It behaves like a web application, it uses web technologies for everything but presentation and the data access and application logic layers are identical. I sure think that this a web application and I'm glad not to be limited to HTML and webpages.

                And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                And I smiled and was happy
                And it came worse.

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                What I found while working on it and in msdn that it enforces us to use HTML controls than server controls... Though we can use server controls. Only one plus point I can see is rendering will be fast due to use of HTML control.

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                  ShabanaParveen wrote:

                  I would be very much obliqued

                  I'd be obliged if you'd post a video of that for us all to see. Be safe though... sounds painful.

                  Somebody in an online forum wrote:

                  INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.

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                  Shabana Parveen
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                  Sure, i will post the video link very soon...

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                    ShabanaParveen wrote:

                    I would be very much obliqued

                    I'd be obliged if you'd post a video of that for us all to see. Be safe though... sounds painful.

                    Somebody in an online forum wrote:

                    INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.

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                    Shabana Parveen
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                    yes, sure there is wonderful Introduction video by Scott Hanselman... http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/matthijs/ASPNET-MVC-2-Basics-Introduction-by-Scott-Hanselman[^] He has explained so very nicely but only confusion is whether it is a traditional web application. WebForms are going away as it still uses webforms but events are approached in a different way here!!!

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                    • S Shabana Parveen

                      Can application designed based on MVC pattern for web should be called web application? I don't know but I do not feel like calling it a web application instead I feel it should be better called as browser application!!! I would be very much obliqued if anyone can me to reinforce or help to me look this kind of application in correct light. As for MVC, i personally like the design pattern, but for me it still new and will take time to get very familiar. Here is the wonderful introductory video by Scott Hanselman: http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/matthijs/ASPNET-MVC-2-Basics-Introduction-by-Scott-Hanselman[^][^] I like the way he educate....

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                      Shabana Parveen
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                      I saw people rating as one!!! y so, i only asked a question to clear my view point by receiving other's opinion, is that so very wrong to get 1 vote...

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                      • R Rob Grainger

                        CDP1802 wrote:

                        I am working on a web application that uses the MVP pattern (similar to MVC) but no HTML, no JavaScript and, best of all, no browser.

                        That sounds like an Internet application but not a web application to me. What defines a web application - to me it is use of web technologies. At a minimum HTTP, but generally I'd guess at HTML as well.

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                        Shabana Parveen
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                        Hi Rob, U will like this link: http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/matthijs/ASPNET-MVC-2-Basics-Introduction-by-Scott-Hanselman[^][^] Please go through it...

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