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W∴ Balboos wrote:
DOS days were truly heady - one could do whatever they wished.
except play good games, develop useful software that didn't require fighting the hardware, etc.. plus, processors were slow, memory was expensive and inter-PC communication was pretty much non-existent.
Chris Losinger wrote:
except play good games
Might & Magic (series) Swords of Glass (CGA graphics) Rogue - which I still play now and then. I haven't observed any real improvement in the games, just the extreme glitz: to a large extent, remakes of remakes.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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My wife's been going through one of 'my closets' where I store such things. I discovered that I am still the proud possessor of 200 (4x50) preformatted 5 1/2 HD floppies. Also, some old shareware from the authors (I was a distributor) - including original copies of DOOM. And a pair of PC Keys - Who still remembers that they came with a lock? There was an MSDOS 5.0 disk, along with MS manuals, which I placed at the local train terminal (there's a library-old-book-give-a-way there)*. Also, the manuals for the pC - Do you remember when a PC used to come with everything you could possibly want to know about it?. They all were snapped up. Unlike the books, I'm not sure what to do with the floppies. Put them in a box with some old 5 1/4 drives and leave by the curb? DOS days were truly heady - one could do whatever they wished. Or slip a 'fun' TSR onto an unsupervised system and await the next boot. *there at both ends of the same phrase! Grammar police please take note!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
Who still remembers that they came with a lock?
and a TURBO button!
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Who still remembers that they came with a lock?
Many still do. Seen a server recently?
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Chris Losinger wrote:
except play good games
Might & Magic (series) Swords of Glass (CGA graphics) Rogue - which I still play now and then. I haven't observed any real improvement in the games, just the extreme glitz: to a large extent, remakes of remakes.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
M&M ate a fair chunk of time - not as much as Doom, obviously - as did Elite and later Privateer. Did you know you can buy M&M I through VIII cheap on GOG[^] - and they work under Windows 7! I think it's about US$20 for the lot...
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Just been sorting through some of my old boxes and found the CD-ROM of MS-DOS 6.22 then even further down the box I found a 5.25" Floppy disk containing IBM PC-DOS v1.1. Them was the daze :-)
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
You had a CD of MS-DOS 6.22? You young folk don't know you're born. In my day we had to make do with 3.5" floppies.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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M&M ate a fair chunk of time - not as much as Doom, obviously - as did Elite and later Privateer. Did you know you can buy M&M I through VIII cheap on GOG[^] - and they work under Windows 7! I think it's about US$20 for the lot...
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
OriginalGriff wrote:
Did you know you can buy M&M I through VIII
One of my 'flaws', if you will: once a game is won, I don't feel like playing it again (except, of course, ROGUE). Similarly with movies, where those I can re-watch can be counted on the hands with fingers left over. Which brings to mind the interesting idea that I can listen to 'my' music again and again. That might be something to contemplate. That fair-chunk-of-memory reminded me that swords-of-Glass came on as one of five games on a 360KB floppy. As one moved about the dungeon, even on the same level, there were longish pauses as it loaded a new map (and woe unto you if you stepped back!). We created a large RAM-Disk to copy the entire disk and played it smoothly from there.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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You had a CD of MS-DOS 6.22? You young folk don't know you're born. In my day we had to make do with 3.5" floppies.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
A few years ago I came across a bootable ISO image of DOS 6.22, ready for writing to CD. I would have killed for that 20 years ago! Mind you, 20 years ago I would have had to download it via 56K modem, so it would have been quicker to install from floppies anyway... :laugh:
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
Who still remembers that they came with a lock?
and a TURBO button!
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
My first had a Turbo Switch in the back: 12 MHz (1 wait state) on full, or half that. The PC-AT was so fast, compared to the PC-XT's that one did, in fact, need to slow it down for some games.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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My wife's been going through one of 'my closets' where I store such things. I discovered that I am still the proud possessor of 200 (4x50) preformatted 5 1/2 HD floppies. Also, some old shareware from the authors (I was a distributor) - including original copies of DOOM. And a pair of PC Keys - Who still remembers that they came with a lock? There was an MSDOS 5.0 disk, along with MS manuals, which I placed at the local train terminal (there's a library-old-book-give-a-way there)*. Also, the manuals for the pC - Do you remember when a PC used to come with everything you could possibly want to know about it?. They all were snapped up. Unlike the books, I'm not sure what to do with the floppies. Put them in a box with some old 5 1/4 drives and leave by the curb? DOS days were truly heady - one could do whatever they wished. Or slip a 'fun' TSR onto an unsupervised system and await the next boot. *there at both ends of the same phrase! Grammar police please take note!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
My wife's been going through one of 'my closets' where I store such things.
I presume you therefore no longer store such things in said closet?
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My first had a Turbo Switch in the back: 12 MHz (1 wait state) on full, or half that. The PC-AT was so fast, compared to the PC-XT's that one did, in fact, need to slow it down for some games.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Mine all had it at the front, with an LED speed display to make others jealous. I still remember finding out that the actual number displayed was jumper selectable rather than actual speed related and slowly reducing the value on a colleague's PC until he decided it was broken and too slow to use.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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W∴ Balboos wrote:
My wife's been going through one of 'my closets' where I store such things.
I presume you therefore no longer store such things in said closet?
It's far too late for that. She's been out of work for a while and has/is going through the entire house. There are no places.
viaducting wrote:
I presume you therefore no longer store such things in said closet?
In a way, your right: those I cannot justify to her satisfaction are 'no longer stored'
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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It's far too late for that. She's been out of work for a while and has/is going through the entire house. There are no places.
viaducting wrote:
I presume you therefore no longer store such things in said closet?
In a way, your right: those I cannot justify to her satisfaction are 'no longer stored'
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I can't move in my house for stored junk - could you send her over sometime to make some space?
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viaducting wrote:
Seen a server recently?
See a server??? Nope, that was a long time ago... :sigh: Now they are locked into big chilly server rooms a long way from here where only certain individuals are allowed (yes, we asked to see the server rooms but where politley refused). Servers... That's just a myth! (and servers are also virtual, making them even harder to see. How do you lock a vitual server? ;) )
Marcus_2 wrote:
servers are also virtual
Are we talking about Wii Tennis? :laugh:
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A few years ago I came across a bootable ISO image of DOS 6.22, ready for writing to CD. I would have killed for that 20 years ago! Mind you, 20 years ago I would have had to download it via 56K modem, so it would have been quicker to install from floppies anyway... :laugh:
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
OriginalGriff wrote:
Mind you, 20 years ago I would have had to download it via 56K modem
Hmm, I think 14.4K was about the top speed in 1991. All this nostalgia in The Lounge is really getting to me today. I even found the manual "The Command Guide for the Intel 2400bps Modems" dated 1988. :omg:
It’s not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it’s because we do not dare that things are difficult. ~Seneca
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Just been sorting through some of my old boxes and found the CD-ROM of MS-DOS 6.22 then even further down the box I found a 5.25" Floppy disk containing IBM PC-DOS v1.1. Them was the daze :-)
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
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Ah, back in the days when stuff just worked, and if you wanted something, you wrote it yourself. When file sharing involved walking across an office whirling a floppy around your fingers!
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Wait a minute, that still applies...except I twirl a USB thumbdrive on a lanyard. (Our Test and Production systems do not share on a LAN so we have to sneakernet between the two.)
Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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Just been sorting through some of my old boxes and found the CD-ROM of MS-DOS 6.22 then even further down the box I found a 5.25" Floppy disk containing IBM PC-DOS v1.1. Them was the daze :-)
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
Steven J Jowett wrote:
found a 5.25" Floppy disk containing IBM PC-DOS v1.1
Still have mine too... single sided double density disk. There was a time when I would mess around with the interleaving settings on the disk controller, speed up things a notch :cool: -- RP
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Did you find the manual? If I remember correctly, it had the learning curve of a brick wall - great if you knew what a command was called, but useless if you didn't.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
I learned it when I was around 10 years old, by typing help. Don't remember which DOS version it was, but that was the start of my career.
"To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson
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Steven J Jowett wrote:
found a 5.25" Floppy disk containing IBM PC-DOS v1.1
Still have mine too... single sided double density disk. There was a time when I would mess around with the interleaving settings on the disk controller, speed up things a notch :cool: -- RP
RogelioP / EX DE,HL wrote:
interleaving settings on the disk controller
RogelioP / EX DE,HL wrote:
single sided double density
Wow, that brings back memories. Things that I'd forgotten:thumbsup:
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real Programmers don't need comments -- the code is obvious.
