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co7eguy

Hey, i got a few questions. thought u guys would know since ur already there....what math / enginerring / programming etc. related job pays the most ? and gives the most respect. it doesnt need to included programming...anythign related to math / engineering...is a PhD gonna help ? im at a stage of life where i need to make decision quickly. im sorta interested in respect and money...doctor wouldve been it but i HATE biology...the only thing i like is engineering..or math related things...and i wanna know FROM those, which job are the best...pay, respect, easiness wise..like i dont wanna work a lot of hrs a week...etc...i want to know a industry which will grow in future...obviously, dot com is bust... hmm..any ideas guys? or gals? thx a lot for ur help.

Paul Riley

ﻡﺟﻧ_Najm wrote: what math / enginerring / programming etc. related job pays the most ? and gives the most respect. :laugh: They all pay well and none get any respect. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

Navin

Actually, don't know for sure but I bet an intellectual property lawyer makes the most of them all. :-D Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

David Wulff

Short-term web programming jobs seem to pay the most for this field of work round this part of the country. They typically last about three months and they pay about £20 an hour 40h/w. Whilst that isn't especially high for the job once you get into a city like London, in this small part of the world that is about 80% more than the normal paying wage for a full time job in this field. I haven't been looking at the other fields so I can't talk about them, sorry.

David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

Christian Graus

Yeah, that's what it's all about - money and respect. Personally I prefer to be able to respect myself. Who cares what other people think ? I program because I love it, it makes me more money than most people I know, but it's more important to me that I look forward to work. If you offered to double my salary for a job I hated, I'd laugh at you. Actually, I'm already laughing. dot com is bust ? What does that mean ? You don't want to work much, you want lots of money and you want respect ? I'd probably try to get a job as the Queen, or the Pope. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

Michael A Barnhart

If you are not doing something you like, you will not be dedicating yourself to something that others will respect you for. Most will be good paying if you are good and not if you are just getting by. If you want money become a lawyer. If you want respect do not. "I will find a new sig someday."

Rob Graham

Actually, given the requirements you seem to have, prostitution is likely your best bet, but then I think somebody already mentioned Lawyers... :-D :-D Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could have thought of them - George Orwell

Nemanja Trifunovic

Christian Graus wrote: You don't want to work much, you want lots of money and you want respect ? I'd probably try to get a job as the Queen, or the Pope. Or learn VB. ;P :beer:

Paul Watson

Christian Graus wrote: Christian Graus Happy New Year CG, welcome to 2003 :)

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

Paul Watson

Rob Graham wrote: prostitution is likely your best bet He does not want to work long hours and by that I also assume he does not want to work odd hours. So unless office hour prostitution is a growing business he should steer clear.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Paul Watson wrote: "The Labia [cinema]... ...was opened by Princess Labia in May 1949..." Christian Graus wrote: See, I told you it was a nice name for a girl...

Jason Gerard

As someone that has been Programming as a Career for 5 years now, I have to say that I'm ready for a career change. Don't get me wrong, I love coding, but I'm burnt out on working on other peoples software. I don't have time to work on my own stuff anymore, and if I quit my job to have time, I would be on the street seeing as how I'm the sole bread winner. Anyway, just think carefully about what you want to do. I think I may try to get a teaching job at a community college or something. The programming courses at the local one here are not very good and totally void of anyone with real world experience. Jason Gerard qeou kai kurios Iasou Cristou doulos

Jason Gerard

CG for Pope in '03!!! You got my vote. Jason Gerard qeou kai kurios Iasou Cristou doulos

Russell Morris

Christian Graus wrote: You don't want to work much, you want lots of money and you want respect ? Too bad the dot-coms busted already! :laugh::laugh: -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"

dorkshoe

Hrm..I wouldnt suggest going into engineering if you can't even spell it... (And its careers, not carrers.) I have to agree with the other guys..Sounds like your only option right now is prostitution. Anything above that might require some real grammar skills as well as the ability to determine what YOU want by YOURSELF. -dork

Gary Kirkham

Forget respect...Money and respect don't necessarily go hand-in-hand. Lawyers come to mind. At the end of the day the only thing (of the two choices) that matters is that, in your mind, you made enough money for the work you did. Enjoying your work is nice, but in the end maybe not the most important requirement. I have had jobs that paid well, but I have not enjoyed and I have had jobs that I have enjoyed, but not paid well. I have yet to have a job that paid well and that I have enjoyed. I have found, for me anyway, that it is not important to have respect or enjoy my work. The most important thing is that my job pays well enough to allow me to do all of the non-work related things I want to do. To some people job security is important, but it usually involves a choice between money and security. Just my two cents worth. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

Michael P Butler

If you are looking for respect then I'd stay out of the IT world. We don't get much respect apart from within our own ranks. Don't look for the job that gives you the most money, look for the one that you can enjoy doing - enjoying your work is the most important thing as you'll probably spend a large percentage of your life doing it. Michael Fat bottomed girls You make the rockin' world go round -- Queen

Christian Graus

Thanks Paul, good to be here. Love the sig.... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

Christian Graus

VB = respect ? Shame on you.... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002

Brit

Figure out what you like to do. If you pick a career based on some "objective" measurement of money, fame, prestige, etc but you don't like it, you'll be miserable and end up looking for a new career in a few years (or worse: spend your life doing a job you hate). Sure, a doctor may be "objectively" better (based on money, presitge, etc), but you may actually love a job that has a low "objective" score. Remember: you'll be spending a lot more time working than you will be spending money. Why spend the majority of your time doing something you dislike in order to spend a minority of your time doing something you like (i.e. spending money)? Additionally, some jobs which are rated "objectively" high because they have good pay. Why do they have good pay? Because people don't like to do them. Hence, an "objectively" high-scoring job is sometimes correlated with a subjectively bad job. I think accounting falls into this category. Pay has gone up quite a bit for accountants, but I wouldn't want to do it (and neither do most people), which is why it's a well-paying job. ------------------------------------------ "Isn't it funny how people say they'll never grow up to be their parents, then one day they look in the mirror and they're moving aircraft carriers into the Gulf region?" - The Onion

Lost User

Christian Graus wrote: I'd probably try to get a job as the Queen, or the Pope. He doesn't qualify for one if he's a man or for the other if he's had sex (with a consenting female of the apropriate age that is). :-D Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002