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A friend of mine had a 64 Falcon with a 260. His mom said she'd help finance a new motor when the current one blew up (we were planning on putting in a 351 Cleveland). One Saturday, she went shopping and me and Eddie (the friend) drained the oil and water out of the car, fired it up, and ran it at about 7000 RPM until the motor seized up. To cover our tracks, we put the used oil back into the crankcase, and the water back into the radiator, and waited for his mom to get home. By the time she came back from shopping, the car had cooled almost all the way down. Eddie made a big commotion about going somewhere and had his mom come out to bring him his wallet that he'd strategically left on the kitchen table. When she approached the car, he turned the key, expecting nothing to happen. Imagine our surprise when the car sounded as if it wasn't going to start, but then after a backfire and an impressive cloud of smoke through the exhaust, it fired up and ran like a freakin' top. The motor ran flawlessly for another year and-a-half before finally coming to a grisly end at the hands of a failed head gasket. I still wonder if Eddie didn't purposely loosen a couple of head bolts to cause the gasket to "leak". :)
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
A friend of mine had a 64 Falcon with a 260.
My 64 Falcon has a 250 pre-crossflow... I suspect the US vs Aussie versions are slightly different...
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I still wonder if Eddie didn't purposely loosen a couple of head bolts to cause the gasket to "leak".
No, I think the poofters are just prone to leak. I have had the head done 4 times in 12 months, and the friggin thing is weeping again. Apparently they don't like Glycol based coolants... wish they told me that earlier!! ;-)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I used to, until the damn things became innundated with computers.
I had a Renault 25, circa late 80s. Computer, relays yada yada yada. It diead at some traffic lights in Bristol. I pulled a spark plug, it was sparking. Hmm thinks I, fuel injection relays. Get a taxi to a local motor factors (parts supplier). Got a couple of relays, fitted them, crank it over, it runs. 2 hours, back on the road, another 2 hours I am home. Dont be scared of computers. They are just more crap to deal with, but they normally work. It is the sensors, the ancilleries that die.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
unless you were trying to increase the compression ratio.
Took 2.5 mm off a Fiat 1300 head once to run a static 11.5 : 1 co0mpression ratio. OKm it was a BIG cam. 300 duration, 180 degree overlap. It was a beast. Didnt do FA till it got to 4000 rpm. After that it lit up like a nuclear power station! Damn, did the thing rev! Twin Webber 40 down-draughts, DNCFs, 421 exhaust, ported head, cut valves. All the way to 9000. Great motors fiats, truly great.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
, much less the welding gene.
OK, I am actually a qualified welder. I used to work as one when I was young and dicking around. It is still second nature to me to weld stuff together.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
What they did was probably a lot of work because they had to remove the center console, the heater controls,
That is always a major PITA. To get to the heater unit you have to take out all the dash. And you never get it back straight. It realy is a pain. But it is clean. Sit in the seat, weild the screwdrivers, and out it pops. Not like a clutch. Creasy, dircty,, cold concrete. 50 kgs of metal above your head.... But real men eh? Nowt like it! :)
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Erudite__Eric wrote:
Took 2.5 mm off a Fiat 1300 head once to run a static 11.5 : 1 co0mpression ratio.
The head on Booger Mobile had so much taken off it I had to put IN a 3mm shim to get the compression under control enough for it not to self destruct, even running 98 octane fuel (the highest you can get at the bowser here).
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
A friend of mine had a 64 Falcon with a 260.
My 64 Falcon has a 250 pre-crossflow... I suspect the US vs Aussie versions are slightly different...
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I still wonder if Eddie didn't purposely loosen a couple of head bolts to cause the gasket to "leak".
No, I think the poofters are just prone to leak. I have had the head done 4 times in 12 months, and the friggin thing is weeping again. Apparently they don't like Glycol based coolants... wish they told me that earlier!! ;-)
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
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When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997That is to be expected. No votes are allowed in the Back Room. Although, this seems like a curious place to move your thread... I could see the Soapbox, but the Back Room seems like a strange place for your thread.
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That is to be expected. No votes are allowed in the Back Room. Although, this seems like a curious place to move your thread... I could see the Soapbox, but the Back Room seems like a strange place for your thread.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
Probably Chris was expecting this thread to turn into US car industry against the late UK car industry/brands, but because people who have post in this thread have been surprisingly reasonable, polite and with a sense of humor this never happened. Surprise!
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Why did your post get moved? I didn't see anything controversial.
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"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Because of the very last word of the original post...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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Because of the very last word of the original post...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997oh. well, that sucks.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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oh. well, that sucks.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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Oh dont tell me you are a vote obsessed CPeat? Holy crap, leave that to the accountant and the hungarian! :laugh:
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i will search out a post of yours and give it a 5 - not because you want the points, but to express my pleasure at your post :laugh:
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i will search out a post of yours and give it a 5 - not because you want the points, but to express my pleasure at your post :laugh:
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My main gripe about Fords is that although they make fairly good engines, the gearboxes are not up to scratch. They are reliable enough but seem somehow under geared. Mind you, I am spoilt a bit, I have a history of Jaguars, MR2's and Opel Senators, so I kind of base automotive opinion on the upper range of the genre.
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Opel? Upper range? What did I miss?
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MR2 and Jags too? Cheap Japanese sports car and the UKs favorite criminal gang car! Quality? He needs to drive a BMW if he wants a measure of what quality is. (OK, BMWs are totally souless and I hate driving them, but they are very well made)
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Erudite__Eric wrote:
Took 2.5 mm off a Fiat 1300 head once to run a static 11.5 : 1 co0mpression ratio.
The head on Booger Mobile had so much taken off it I had to put IN a 3mm shim to get the compression under control enough for it not to self destruct, even running 98 octane fuel (the highest you can get at the bowser here).
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Thats time for a new head. Runing a shim, two head gaskets and all that, its just waiting to fall apart. Either that or get the rotary dril attachment out and port the head. :) One of the big risks with extreme head skims is valves and pistons making contat. Add hairy cams into the mix and it gets worse.
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Thats time for a new head. Runing a shim, two head gaskets and all that, its just waiting to fall apart. Either that or get the rotary dril attachment out and port the head. :) One of the big risks with extreme head skims is valves and pistons making contat. Add hairy cams into the mix and it gets worse.
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Yeah, I have a spare head on the floor of the shed, but after spending so much money on this one, I'm keen to keep using it if it doesn't break...
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Yeah, I have a spare head on the floor of the shed, but after spending so much money on this one, I'm keen to keep using it if it doesn't break...
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
If the head is alluminimum, and it ought to be these days, you can increase the combustion chamber size to reduce the compression. You can take the opportunity to improve its shape and flow characteristics too in order to get better performance. It is a bit of messing around, but could be fun to do. :)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
- Sometimes, you gotta say "FUCK!"
Or buy a half decent car, preferably something European. Ford - Fix Or Repair Daily
_Josh_ wrote:
Or buy a half decent car, preferably something European.
like Mercedes, or Audi, or BMW, with the lowest reliability scores in the industry?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Since you can't vote in the backroom, removing the votes seems like the right thing to do.
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First On Race Day I've heard 'em all. I have 102k miles on the car (7.5 years old), and this is only the 2nd time it's cost me money for service. It doesn't rattle or squeak, the paint is still good on it, and I'm even still on the original brakes. I'd say that's a pretty good return on investment, and it's been paid off for three years, so go ahead and joke about it. My next car will be a Ford, too.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
My next car will be a Ford, too.
If you were to buy a Ford today, which one of the current models would you buy?
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If the head is alluminimum, and it ought to be these days, you can increase the combustion chamber size to reduce the compression. You can take the opportunity to improve its shape and flow characteristics too in order to get better performance. It is a bit of messing around, but could be fun to do. :)
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No, it's a cast iron head... The car is 47 years old, the engine about 40 years old... The issue prior to the shim was the rebuild caused too much compression - just couldn't keep the fuel octane high enough to stop detonation...
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No, it's a cast iron head... The car is 47 years old, the engine about 40 years old... The issue prior to the shim was the rebuild caused too much compression - just couldn't keep the fuel octane high enough to stop detonation...
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
OK, thats a really old engine. Did you think of skimming the tops of the pistons down a bit? Mind you, if it is that old, then running with a shim and two head gaskets probably wont be a problem since it isnt going to be giving and kind of real performance.
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