And so it begins
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Maybe. But how is this different from women screaming sexual harassment or gays complaining of sexual discrimination? And you don't know that the copper in question *wasn't* being a total prick about the whole thing (off-topic: that thing in Queensland the other week was unbelievable!). I think it's funny he accused the police officer of being "un-Australian" though :-) WTF does that mean?! :laugh: And is there really a place called Punchbowl?! Shog9 ain't the only one who's bored...
he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
Taka Muraoka wrote: And you don't know that the copper in question *wasn't* being a total prick about the whole thing I was wondering the same thing...but I tend to have a poor view of police. Regardless, if he broke the law shouldn't he be help accountable. Esp. the un-insured part, people who drive witout insurance piss me off to no end. I was hit by one of those a**holes once and my insurance rates shot through the roof and I spent 2 weeks in a friggin hosipital bed. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
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Taka Muraoka wrote: And you don't know that the copper in question *wasn't* being a total prick about the whole thing I was wondering the same thing...but I tend to have a poor view of police. Regardless, if he broke the law shouldn't he be help accountable. Esp. the un-insured part, people who drive witout insurance piss me off to no end. I was hit by one of those a**holes once and my insurance rates shot through the roof and I spent 2 weeks in a friggin hosipital bed. Fill me with your knowledge, your wisdom, your coffee.
Chris Austin wrote: Regardless, if he broke the law shouldn't he be help accountable. Oh, absolutely. From the sound of things, it looks like he just got a bit agro. But there's always two sides to a story...
he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
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Maybe. But how is this different from women screaming sexual harassment or gays complaining of sexual discrimination? And you don't know that the copper in question *wasn't* being a total prick about the whole thing (off-topic: that thing in Queensland the other week was unbelievable!). I think it's funny he accused the police officer of being "un-Australian" though :-) WTF does that mean?! :laugh: And is there really a place called Punchbowl?! Shog9 ain't the only one who's bored...
he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
Taka Muraoka wrote: But how is this different from women screaming sexual harassment or gays complaining of sexual discrimination? Not in any way, the point is that again, political correctness allows the minorities to get away with murder. Taka Muraoka wrote: And you don't know that the copper in question *wasn't* being a total prick about the whole thing You only have to read the article. If the cop did anything specific, this guy would say what it was. He was driving without a LICENCE !!!! He calls that a 'small mistake'. Speeding *can* be a small mistake ( for example if your car sped up a little going down a hill and you're 10 over the limit ), but driving without a licence is clear disrespect for the law and other drivers. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 -
I confidently predict this is the start of every Islamic person who wants to break the law coming to realise they can cry unfair play in the current political climate and everyone will be too scared to point out that no matter where you wear your towel, the law is the law. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mufti slams 'un-Australian' police The spiritual leader of Australia's Islamic community said a police officer who arrested him on traffic charges acted in an un-Australian way. Sheik Taj El Din Al Hilaly will face court for allegedly assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest, carrying a protruding load from his vehicle and driving while unregistered and uninsured. The charges stem from a clash with an officer on a street in Wiley Park, in south-western Sydney, yesterday. The mufti said while the officer who arrested him was doing his job, he went about it the wrong way. "Police officer, he try to do his job but not through Australian way; I think he try the Chicago way, not Australian way," Sheik Hilaly told the Seven Network. "If it my mistake, a small mistake, but the police officer, he did a big mistake." The mufti was stopped on King Georges Road at 11.25am (AEDT) yesterday because of a piece of metal protruding from the driver's side of the car, police said. As the officer spoke with him, a 23-year-old male came out of a nearby apartment block and started arguing with police, a spokeswoman said. The mufti then complained of chest pain and was taken to Canterbury Hospital, where he underwent tests before being released shortly after 8pm. Lawyer Stephen Hopper said Sheik Hilaly would "vigorously defend" the charges and the police had overreacted to a minor traffic matter. "The police acted inappropriately over a minor traffic matter that really should have gone nowhere," Mr Hopper said. Mr Hopper said the mufti hoped the incident would not jeopardise the relationship between the Islamic community and the police. "He's appealed for calm by members of the Islamic community and wants them to wait until the legal process has taken its course," Mr Hopper said. Sheik Hilaly was in "reasonable spirits" but was "traumatised and stressed" by the incident, Mr Hopper said. Police said a 23-year-old Punchbowl man would be summonsed on a charge of assaulting police. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C#What worries me is all that talk about the islamic community. WTF do they have to do with one man breaking the law? I just don't understand that. Cheers, Fredrik
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What worries me is all that talk about the islamic community. WTF do they have to do with one man breaking the law? I just don't understand that. Cheers, Fredrik
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Fredrik Skog wrote: What worries me is all that talk about the islamic community Do you not know of the dangers of offending the Community? You offend one. You offend all. They will stand up for each other, right or wrong.
Yes, exactly, that is what I find so strange. Why would anyone stand up for someone who is doing something wrong? Cheers, Fredrik
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Yes, exactly, that is what I find so strange. Why would anyone stand up for someone who is doing something wrong? Cheers, Fredrik
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Er, no? Are you? ;P I know it is a fact, but I still don't understand. But I guess it depends on what culture one is born and bred in. Cheers, Fredrik
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Er, no? Are you? ;P I know it is a fact, but I still don't understand. But I guess it depends on what culture one is born and bred in. Cheers, Fredrik
"Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas."Fredrik Skog wrote: But I guess it depends on what culture one is born and bred in Not at all, you'll find it to astounding levels in any culture you care to name, inlcuding Britain and Sweden. People are sheep, they follow the herd whether they are going out to graze or going in to the slaughter. If you had the resources and time (and more often than not merely the confidence) to dedicate you could get half of your country to march for equal rights for Tuna fish -- and they'd believe it to their very core. All of the great advances and great pit falls of human kind have relied on that simple fact.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
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Maybe. But how is this different from women screaming sexual harassment or gays complaining of sexual discrimination? And you don't know that the copper in question *wasn't* being a total prick about the whole thing (off-topic: that thing in Queensland the other week was unbelievable!). I think it's funny he accused the police officer of being "un-Australian" though :-) WTF does that mean?! :laugh: And is there really a place called Punchbowl?! Shog9 ain't the only one who's bored...
he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
Taka Muraoka wrote: I think it's funny he accused the police officer of being "un-Australian" though From the Foster lager ads we get here, surely thats a good thing ;P The tigress is here :-D
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Taka Muraoka wrote: I think it's funny he accused the police officer of being "un-Australian" though From the Foster lager ads we get here, surely thats a good thing ;P The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: From the Foster lager ads we get here, surely thats a good thing Sooooo.... he was accusing the copper of being, um, sober? :-) We don't get ads for Fosters here in Oz - they know better than to try sell crap like that here :laugh:
he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
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I confidently predict this is the start of every Islamic person who wants to break the law coming to realise they can cry unfair play in the current political climate and everyone will be too scared to point out that no matter where you wear your towel, the law is the law. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mufti slams 'un-Australian' police The spiritual leader of Australia's Islamic community said a police officer who arrested him on traffic charges acted in an un-Australian way. Sheik Taj El Din Al Hilaly will face court for allegedly assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest, carrying a protruding load from his vehicle and driving while unregistered and uninsured. The charges stem from a clash with an officer on a street in Wiley Park, in south-western Sydney, yesterday. The mufti said while the officer who arrested him was doing his job, he went about it the wrong way. "Police officer, he try to do his job but not through Australian way; I think he try the Chicago way, not Australian way," Sheik Hilaly told the Seven Network. "If it my mistake, a small mistake, but the police officer, he did a big mistake." The mufti was stopped on King Georges Road at 11.25am (AEDT) yesterday because of a piece of metal protruding from the driver's side of the car, police said. As the officer spoke with him, a 23-year-old male came out of a nearby apartment block and started arguing with police, a spokeswoman said. The mufti then complained of chest pain and was taken to Canterbury Hospital, where he underwent tests before being released shortly after 8pm. Lawyer Stephen Hopper said Sheik Hilaly would "vigorously defend" the charges and the police had overreacted to a minor traffic matter. "The police acted inappropriately over a minor traffic matter that really should have gone nowhere," Mr Hopper said. Mr Hopper said the mufti hoped the incident would not jeopardise the relationship between the Islamic community and the police. "He's appealed for calm by members of the Islamic community and wants them to wait until the legal process has taken its course," Mr Hopper said. Sheik Hilaly was in "reasonable spirits" but was "traumatised and stressed" by the incident, Mr Hopper said. Police said a 23-year-old Punchbowl man would be summonsed on a charge of assaulting police. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C#No one is above the law, no matter how big he or she is, plain and simple. Christian Graus wrote: ..no matter where you wear your towel, the law is the law You could've probably made the point even without using that usual rhetoric.
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Maybe. But how is this different from women screaming sexual harassment or gays complaining of sexual discrimination? And you don't know that the copper in question *wasn't* being a total prick about the whole thing (off-topic: that thing in Queensland the other week was unbelievable!). I think it's funny he accused the police officer of being "un-Australian" though :-) WTF does that mean?! :laugh: And is there really a place called Punchbowl?! Shog9 ain't the only one who's bored...
he he he. I like it in the kitchen! - Marc Clifton (on taking the heat when being flamed) Awasu v0.4a[^]: A free RSS reader with support for Code Project.
Taka Muraoka wrote: being "un-Australian" though... WTF does that mean?! The officer failed to offer the accused a beer. Quite unacceptable behavior! "How many times do I have to flush before you go away?" - Megan Forbes, on Management (12/5/2002)
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Fredrik Skog wrote: What worries me is all that talk about the islamic community Do you not know of the dangers of offending the Community? You offend one. You offend all. They will stand up for each other, right or wrong.
As a rule I loathe generalisations The tigress is here :-D
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As a rule I loathe generalisations The tigress is here :-D
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Trollslayer wrote: As a rule I loathe generalisations All fluffy tigresses loathe generalizations...
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Shog9 The siren sings a lonely song - of all the wants and hungers The lust of love a brute desire - the ledge of life goes under
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As a rule I loathe generalisations The tigress is here :-D
Actually, you're probably right. My description is probably more appropiate for the conservative Muslims, those who adamantly believe that the non Muslim is always wrong. The liberal Muslims would give equal weighting to the non Muslim and Muslim. Unfortunately in our current day, conservative Islam's population has grown quite numerous. Whenever a large number of them are present, there can be conflict if one of them is offended. In Western countries, the conflicts are typically limited to cries of racism or unfairness. In other countries, conflicts can become physically violent, as in India.
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Yes, exactly, that is what I find so strange. Why would anyone stand up for someone who is doing something wrong? Cheers, Fredrik
"Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas."Fredrik Skog wrote: Why would anyone stand up for someone who is doing something wrong? Why? Because of this thinking, "People from your group are always right, and everybody else is always wrong." Yes, there are people who think like this. They will defend their own whether right or wrong. It's the thinking of people who have wrongheaded ideas of superiority of one type of man over another.
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No one is above the law, no matter how big he or she is, plain and simple. Christian Graus wrote: ..no matter where you wear your towel, the law is the law You could've probably made the point even without using that usual rhetoric.
Fazlul Kabir wrote: You could've probably made the point even without using that usual rhetoric. True, but I have accidentally made the most important point. In expressing my contempt for the one individual, I've also expressed the truth that the majority of Islamic people will quite wrongly find themselves considered to be tarred with the same brush. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002