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Silverlight - it gets worse

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    According to this article,, SL5 may only work in IE. What a crock of sh*t if it's true. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/microsoft_killing_silverlight_rumours/[^]

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      According to this article,, SL5 may only work in IE. What a crock of sh*t if it's true. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/microsoft_killing_silverlight_rumours/[^]

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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      leppie
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      Well thank goodness, I never tried that WPF and Silverlight stuff :)

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        According to this article,, SL5 may only work in IE. What a crock of sh*t if it's true. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/microsoft_killing_silverlight_rumours/[^]

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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        Wayne Gaylard
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        Guess it's time to break out the HTML 5/CSS 3 books :(

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          According to this article,, SL5 may only work in IE. What a crock of sh*t if it's true. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/microsoft_killing_silverlight_rumours/[^]

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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          Nithin Sundar
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          Well it looks like they will be moving to HTML5 later. Probably .NET and WPF along with Silverlight aren't exactly the big things they have in mind.

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            Well thank goodness, I never tried that WPF and Silverlight stuff :)

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            Nithin Sundar
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            I think they might continue to update them rather than concentrating and adding new great features. The UI capability of WPF is great.

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              Well thank goodness, I never tried that WPF and Silverlight stuff :)

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              Gary Wheeler
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              WPF and Silverlight are hardly the same thing.

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                According to this article,, SL5 may only work in IE. What a crock of sh*t if it's true. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/microsoft_killing_silverlight_rumours/[^]

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Ah, don't you just love the ol' rumour mill. There's a new strategy at Microsoft where news is released in a carefully controlled fashion. So, just because they don't respond to rumours now, it must be true. The thing is, nobody outside of MS actually knows whether or not this is true - and, as a result, anybody can say what they want.

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                  Well thank goodness, I never tried that WPF and Silverlight stuff :)

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                  I can't speak for silverlight because I've never had any interest in web programming. ( Yes I know I'm becomming like my old university lecturer quite happy to stick with the stuff I know. We used to laugh at him for using still using dos based programs when we had all moved on to win 3.11 ) But Wpf which I'm just learning at the moment is more of a gui programming extension that can also be used on the web, but probably not if you want to leverage the full capabilities. From the windows programming point of view it's more the next generation of forms etc. Though apparently you can't do transitions when using a wpf control in a windows forms app. I haven;t tried it yet but this is the only thing I'm not happy about. But then it's easily fixed with tabs or splitters, it's just that transitions would be cooler.

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                    According to this article,, SL5 may only work in IE. What a crock of sh*t if it's true. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/10/microsoft_killing_silverlight_rumours/[^]

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    Why would Microsoft's competitors support their technology! They should have thought about that when they crippled Java.. Even today I'm forced to view some of Microsoft's online content in ie. "You've made your bed, now lie in it". A lot of good things came out of Silverlight. Hopefully they'll drag all that goodness into WPF before nailing down the coffin.

                    "You get that on the big jobs."

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                      Ah, don't you just love the ol' rumour mill. There's a new strategy at Microsoft where news is released in a carefully controlled fashion. So, just because they don't respond to rumours now, it must be true. The thing is, nobody outside of MS actually knows whether or not this is true - and, as a result, anybody can say what they want.

                      Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      The thing is, nobody outside of not even MS actually knows whether or not this is true

                      FTFY.

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                        Why would Microsoft's competitors support their technology! They should have thought about that when they crippled Java.. Even today I'm forced to view some of Microsoft's online content in ie. "You've made your bed, now lie in it". A lot of good things came out of Silverlight. Hopefully they'll drag all that goodness into WPF before nailing down the coffin.

                        "You get that on the big jobs."

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                        As it appears, WPF already was out of fashion after the Longhorn and Vista failures. Silverlight was the way to go after that and now may be on its way out as well. Only the old dinosaur, Win32, seems to survive everything.

                        And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                        "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                        And I smiled and was happy
                        And it came worse.

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                          As it appears, WPF already was out of fashion after the Longhorn and Vista failures. Silverlight was the way to go after that and now may be on its way out as well. Only the old dinosaur, Win32, seems to survive everything.

                          And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                          "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                          And I smiled and was happy
                          And it came worse.

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                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                          CDP1802 wrote:

                          Only the old dinosaur, Win32, seems to survive everything.

                          Way too awesome for an old fart like that, don't ya think? :cool:

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                            CDP1802 wrote:

                            Only the old dinosaur, Win32, seems to survive everything.

                            Way too awesome for an old fart like that, don't ya think? :cool:

                            "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                            Microsoft's tendency to drop things as quickly as they invent them has made going back to Win32 and C++ very appealing. Both have become something like stepchildren after .Net, but this also isolated them from much foolishness.

                            And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                            "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                            And I smiled and was happy
                            And it came worse.

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                              Microsoft's tendency to drop things as quickly as they invent them has made going back to Win32 and C++ very appealing. Both have become something like stepchildren after .Net, but this also isolated them from much foolishness.

                              And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                              "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                              And I smiled and was happy
                              And it came worse.

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                              bosedk
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                              CDP1802 wrote:

                              Both have become something like stepchildren after .Net,

                              More like children of ex who's less attractive and earns less (?) than the current spouse.

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                                Microsoft's tendency to drop things as quickly as they invent them has made going back to Win32 and C++ very appealing. Both have become something like stepchildren after .Net, but this also isolated them from much foolishness.

                                And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                And I smiled and was happy
                                And it came worse.

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                                CDP1802 wrote:

                                but this also isolated them from much foolishness.

                                ...and much updating.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  Well thank goodness, I never tried that WPF and Silverlight stuff :)

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                                  You don't know what you're missing ;P

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                                    CDP1802 wrote:

                                    but this also isolated them from much foolishness.

                                    ...and much updating.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                    -----
                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                    Isn't it great? Pull out 15 year old code, compile it and it runs. No updating any frameworks. The platform SDK has remained, thank god, very much the same. And the second bonus is that the smart cargo cult programmers will not last very long there. They will give up wenn they encounter their first pointers.

                                    And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                    "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                    And I smiled and was happy
                                    And it came worse.

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                                      Isn't it great? Pull out 15 year old code, compile it and it runs. No updating any frameworks. The platform SDK has remained, thank god, very much the same. And the second bonus is that the smart cargo cult programmers will not last very long there. They will give up wenn they encounter their first pointers.

                                      And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                      "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                      And I smiled and was happy
                                      And it came worse.

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                                      RobCroll
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                                      And it compiles so quickly you have to do a clean and build to convince yourself that it did actually recompile.

                                      "You get that on the big jobs."

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                                        And it compiles so quickly you have to do a clean and build to convince yourself that it did actually recompile.

                                        "You get that on the big jobs."

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                                        And you can say that for the code's performance as well. Very much less shoveling data from and to a database, converting it ten times along the way. The code itself had less fat and more muscles and C++ also helps a little by 'forgetting' the word 'managed'. Our intern has just 'proven' that C# runs just as fast as C++. By taking the time a for loop needs to count to 4 billions in both languages. Now he is puzzled why I laughed and told him that this is not much of a surprise.

                                        And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                        "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                        And I smiled and was happy
                                        And it came worse.

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                                          And you can say that for the code's performance as well. Very much less shoveling data from and to a database, converting it ten times along the way. The code itself had less fat and more muscles and C++ also helps a little by 'forgetting' the word 'managed'. Our intern has just 'proven' that C# runs just as fast as C++. By taking the time a for loop needs to count to 4 billions in both languages. Now he is puzzled why I laughed and told him that this is not much of a surprise.

                                          And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
                                          "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

                                          And I smiled and was happy
                                          And it came worse.

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                                          RobCroll
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                                          When it comes to release time, I think I'd feel better with managed code. But yeah a bit more muscle and a bit less blot would be good thing (he says looking down at his own paunch)

                                          "You get that on the big jobs."

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