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Do I have the obligation to make my neighborhood look more attractive than it really is?

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  • X Xiangyang Liu

    My fence is next to a little path in the neighborhood. Some kids (maybe adults as well) keep painting graffiti on my fence which I cleaned up several times in the past. I reported the problems to police who did not do anything. There was even a time when I knew who did it, they still did nothing (because it was done by an elementary school boy). Finally I gave up and let the graffiti stay on. I know some people would resort to firearms but I enjoyed living within a fence with graffiti more than living inside a jail. Today I received a letter from Homeowners' Association, it says I must clean up my fence or face a fine. I called the office, told the guy there that I did not do anything wrong and it would be a waste of time for me to clean up everytime, the police is no help even if they know who is responsible, and also, as a victim I should not be punished, etc. The guy said sorry, the HOA rules cannot be ignored, I must clean it up each time, because I made the neighborhood look bad by not cleaning it. This is what makes me angry. If someone keeps painting graffiti on others' fences, then the neighborhood is already bad. I did not make it look any worse than it really is. If others try to blame me, to hell with their property values. What do you think? Does HOA really have the right to punish me?

    My Younger Son & His "PET"

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    Remove the fence, use a hedge :)

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    • X Xiangyang Liu

      My fence is next to a little path in the neighborhood. Some kids (maybe adults as well) keep painting graffiti on my fence which I cleaned up several times in the past. I reported the problems to police who did not do anything. There was even a time when I knew who did it, they still did nothing (because it was done by an elementary school boy). Finally I gave up and let the graffiti stay on. I know some people would resort to firearms but I enjoyed living within a fence with graffiti more than living inside a jail. Today I received a letter from Homeowners' Association, it says I must clean up my fence or face a fine. I called the office, told the guy there that I did not do anything wrong and it would be a waste of time for me to clean up everytime, the police is no help even if they know who is responsible, and also, as a victim I should not be punished, etc. The guy said sorry, the HOA rules cannot be ignored, I must clean it up each time, because I made the neighborhood look bad by not cleaning it. This is what makes me angry. If someone keeps painting graffiti on others' fences, then the neighborhood is already bad. I did not make it look any worse than it really is. If others try to blame me, to hell with their property values. What do you think? Does HOA really have the right to punish me?

      My Younger Son & His "PET"

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      Can't you remove the fence?

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      • X Xiangyang Liu

        My fence is next to a little path in the neighborhood. Some kids (maybe adults as well) keep painting graffiti on my fence which I cleaned up several times in the past. I reported the problems to police who did not do anything. There was even a time when I knew who did it, they still did nothing (because it was done by an elementary school boy). Finally I gave up and let the graffiti stay on. I know some people would resort to firearms but I enjoyed living within a fence with graffiti more than living inside a jail. Today I received a letter from Homeowners' Association, it says I must clean up my fence or face a fine. I called the office, told the guy there that I did not do anything wrong and it would be a waste of time for me to clean up everytime, the police is no help even if they know who is responsible, and also, as a victim I should not be punished, etc. The guy said sorry, the HOA rules cannot be ignored, I must clean it up each time, because I made the neighborhood look bad by not cleaning it. This is what makes me angry. If someone keeps painting graffiti on others' fences, then the neighborhood is already bad. I did not make it look any worse than it really is. If others try to blame me, to hell with their property values. What do you think? Does HOA really have the right to punish me?

        My Younger Son & His "PET"

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        Alberto Bar Noy
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        Well you can try: 1) Cleaning materials cost vs fine cost 2) Check if you can (according to the HOA contract) remove the fence and put a thorny hedge 3) Painball mines 4) Claymore mines.... ;P ;P ;P

        Alberto Bar-Noy --------------- “The city’s central computer told you? R2D2, you know better than to trust a strange computer!” (C3PO)

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        • R Rage

          Can't you remove the fence?

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          Xiangyang Liu
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          Rage wrote:

          Can't you remove the fence?

          And inviting them to paint on my house directly? NO. :)

          My Younger Son & His "PET"

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          • D David Crow

            Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

            Today I received a letter from Homeowners' Association, it says I must clean up my fence or face a fine.

            A fine they would collect how? They can send you all the threats and fines they want, but collecting on them is an entirely different matter. How much is the fine vs. the cost to repair the fence? All that said, read your contract verbatim.

            "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

            "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

            "Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous

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            Xiangyang Liu
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            DavidCrow wrote:

            A fine they would collect how? They can send you all the threats and fines they want, but collecting on them is an entirely different matter.

            That reminds, I know a family in the next block who never paid any HOA fee (for many years). I think the punishment they get is not receiving swimming pool pass during the summer. Not that I want to follow their example, not yet. :)

            My Younger Son & His "PET"

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            • X Xiangyang Liu

              My fence is next to a little path in the neighborhood. Some kids (maybe adults as well) keep painting graffiti on my fence which I cleaned up several times in the past. I reported the problems to police who did not do anything. There was even a time when I knew who did it, they still did nothing (because it was done by an elementary school boy). Finally I gave up and let the graffiti stay on. I know some people would resort to firearms but I enjoyed living within a fence with graffiti more than living inside a jail. Today I received a letter from Homeowners' Association, it says I must clean up my fence or face a fine. I called the office, told the guy there that I did not do anything wrong and it would be a waste of time for me to clean up everytime, the police is no help even if they know who is responsible, and also, as a victim I should not be punished, etc. The guy said sorry, the HOA rules cannot be ignored, I must clean it up each time, because I made the neighborhood look bad by not cleaning it. This is what makes me angry. If someone keeps painting graffiti on others' fences, then the neighborhood is already bad. I did not make it look any worse than it really is. If others try to blame me, to hell with their property values. What do you think? Does HOA really have the right to punish me?

              My Younger Son & His "PET"

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Why not paint your fence with Anti-Grafitti paint?

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              • B bryce

                Wotcha Wogger so your advice to the chap in quesiton is to suck it up and paint the fence? (that was my advice) Bryce

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                Not at all, Bryce. My advice, if I had any, would be to move. :-D

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  Why not paint your fence with Anti-Grafitti paint?

                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                  "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                  Xiangyang Liu
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                  I didn't know such a thing, will check it out. Thanks.

                  My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                  • X Xiangyang Liu

                    My fence is next to a little path in the neighborhood. Some kids (maybe adults as well) keep painting graffiti on my fence which I cleaned up several times in the past. I reported the problems to police who did not do anything. There was even a time when I knew who did it, they still did nothing (because it was done by an elementary school boy). Finally I gave up and let the graffiti stay on. I know some people would resort to firearms but I enjoyed living within a fence with graffiti more than living inside a jail. Today I received a letter from Homeowners' Association, it says I must clean up my fence or face a fine. I called the office, told the guy there that I did not do anything wrong and it would be a waste of time for me to clean up everytime, the police is no help even if they know who is responsible, and also, as a victim I should not be punished, etc. The guy said sorry, the HOA rules cannot be ignored, I must clean it up each time, because I made the neighborhood look bad by not cleaning it. This is what makes me angry. If someone keeps painting graffiti on others' fences, then the neighborhood is already bad. I did not make it look any worse than it really is. If others try to blame me, to hell with their property values. What do you think? Does HOA really have the right to punish me?

                    My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    I'd go straight out and buy a couple of dozen cans of spray paint, and spend the next few nights "decorating" the walls/fences of the committee members. And then do it again if they cleaned it. No kidding.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • X Xiangyang Liu

                      My fence is next to a little path in the neighborhood. Some kids (maybe adults as well) keep painting graffiti on my fence which I cleaned up several times in the past. I reported the problems to police who did not do anything. There was even a time when I knew who did it, they still did nothing (because it was done by an elementary school boy). Finally I gave up and let the graffiti stay on. I know some people would resort to firearms but I enjoyed living within a fence with graffiti more than living inside a jail. Today I received a letter from Homeowners' Association, it says I must clean up my fence or face a fine. I called the office, told the guy there that I did not do anything wrong and it would be a waste of time for me to clean up everytime, the police is no help even if they know who is responsible, and also, as a victim I should not be punished, etc. The guy said sorry, the HOA rules cannot be ignored, I must clean it up each time, because I made the neighborhood look bad by not cleaning it. This is what makes me angry. If someone keeps painting graffiti on others' fences, then the neighborhood is already bad. I did not make it look any worse than it really is. If others try to blame me, to hell with their property values. What do you think? Does HOA really have the right to punish me?

                      My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      Remove the fence. Problem solved.

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        I'd go straight out and buy a couple of dozen cans of spray paint, and spend the next few nights "decorating" the walls/fences of the committee members. And then do it again if they cleaned it. No kidding.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        I like your solution even better than mine!

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          Remove the fence. Problem solved.

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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                          Xiangyang Liu
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                          Only if I want to invite them to paint on my house directly. :)

                          My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                          • X Xiangyang Liu

                            Only if I want to invite them to paint on my house directly. :)

                            My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                            Plant a thorny hedge in front of the fence

                            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
                            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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