what is a "troll"
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I suggest you look at the person's profile and check out their voting history. This one is only interested in trolling for articles that they can vote 1 on. Just ignore this ignorant fool.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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Hi ppl, I am relatively new to the community regarding posting articles, and just recently I have started writing articles about Delphi. My question is, what makes a "troll". In my article Inherit me this... Inherit me that....[^], I received a comment and a downgrade on said article because it appeared to be a "101" article, because apparently the concepts I bring out are "floating about". If so, based on that (I believe biased view), then what does CP actually stand for? Am I wrong in thinking that sometimes our articles are just that? Placements of words and ideas that people think are available "everywhere"? Should I continue writing articles despite the fact? [I know I will continue writing articles here], but that particular comment really disheartened me.) Am I going mad? Is that comment made by a person who (to me) is just a troll or is he/she/it voicing many other peoples opinions?
Cheers, Glen Vlotman "You cannot code for stupidity"
Speaking from very practice experience here, there is nothing you can do about such posts. The advice is to just ignore them. Believe me, I know its easier said than done. I've been in the same position before here. Giving a response such as you have will only add fuel to the fire and likely start a petty voting feud and/or a tit for tat argument. I've been there, on both sides. Although the comments may seem harsh, there may be some truth to them. If you read the comments objectively and feel you have done your best, then ignore them. Do you work with this person? Is this your boss? Your client? Will their comments get you demoted or fired? Then who cares. It's taken me awhile to come to this, I hope you can benefit from it. You could reply with a thank you, in the nicest possible, non-inflammatory, non-insulting way possible. Yes, sometimes this will insight more because the poster just wants to argue and make it seem they are better and have more knowledge, skills and expertise. Let them. In my experience here these people go away and only the quality people remain. For the record, I recommended the article be posted. Although there are plenty of basic OO articles, here and elsewhere, this was more targeted to Delphi and I felt it would be useful for a beginner. Good job.
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Speaking from very practice experience here, there is nothing you can do about such posts. The advice is to just ignore them. Believe me, I know its easier said than done. I've been in the same position before here. Giving a response such as you have will only add fuel to the fire and likely start a petty voting feud and/or a tit for tat argument. I've been there, on both sides. Although the comments may seem harsh, there may be some truth to them. If you read the comments objectively and feel you have done your best, then ignore them. Do you work with this person? Is this your boss? Your client? Will their comments get you demoted or fired? Then who cares. It's taken me awhile to come to this, I hope you can benefit from it. You could reply with a thank you, in the nicest possible, non-inflammatory, non-insulting way possible. Yes, sometimes this will insight more because the poster just wants to argue and make it seem they are better and have more knowledge, skills and expertise. Let them. In my experience here these people go away and only the quality people remain. For the record, I recommended the article be posted. Although there are plenty of basic OO articles, here and elsewhere, this was more targeted to Delphi and I felt it would be useful for a beginner. Good job.
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Hi ppl, I am relatively new to the community regarding posting articles, and just recently I have started writing articles about Delphi. My question is, what makes a "troll". In my article Inherit me this... Inherit me that....[^], I received a comment and a downgrade on said article because it appeared to be a "101" article, because apparently the concepts I bring out are "floating about". If so, based on that (I believe biased view), then what does CP actually stand for? Am I wrong in thinking that sometimes our articles are just that? Placements of words and ideas that people think are available "everywhere"? Should I continue writing articles despite the fact? [I know I will continue writing articles here], but that particular comment really disheartened me.) Am I going mad? Is that comment made by a person who (to me) is just a troll or is he/she/it voicing many other peoples opinions?
Cheers, Glen Vlotman "You cannot code for stupidity"
As Marcus has pointed out the guy only ever votes on articles, 1 5 and lots of 1s. Has not contributed to the site and does not participate in discussion. Pretty close to a troll IMHO. As there are so few (I assume) articles on turbo pascal (is it still called that?) I think anything that is relevant will be appreciated. Don't let a dipstik put you off, we all get them.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Hi ppl, I am relatively new to the community regarding posting articles, and just recently I have started writing articles about Delphi. My question is, what makes a "troll". In my article Inherit me this... Inherit me that....[^], I received a comment and a downgrade on said article because it appeared to be a "101" article, because apparently the concepts I bring out are "floating about". If so, based on that (I believe biased view), then what does CP actually stand for? Am I wrong in thinking that sometimes our articles are just that? Placements of words and ideas that people think are available "everywhere"? Should I continue writing articles despite the fact? [I know I will continue writing articles here], but that particular comment really disheartened me.) Am I going mad? Is that comment made by a person who (to me) is just a troll or is he/she/it voicing many other peoples opinions?
Cheers, Glen Vlotman "You cannot code for stupidity"
Glen, I wouldn't "take to heart" that one comment. And, there's no reason to be concerned if you posted a "fundamentals" article; the great richness of CP is the rich variety of content aimed at folks at all levels of technical expertise, and experience, from newcomers struggling to get oriented, to world-class experts discussing the most complex aspects of higher-order coding problems, algorithms, and work-arounds for .Net's most intricate ... uhhh ... idiosyncrasies. This "richness" also taking form in solutions, tutorials, QA, Tips/Tricks, and specific topic forums. So you are not "going mad," but perhaps just getting over a small case of "getting mad." Keep on trucking. best, Bill
Scipio: "That's true, Berganza; and what makes the miracle greater is, that we not only speak, but hold intelligent discourse, as though we had souls capable of reason; whereas we are so far from having it, that the difference between brutes and man consists in this, that man is a rational animal, and the brute is irrational." Cervantes, "Colloquy of Dogs," 1613CE. The two talking dogs, Scipio, Berganza, are hallucinations in the mind of a soldier with plague fever undergoing a "sweating" cure.
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:laugh: Q&A takes 5 mins here and there, you can dive in and out. Writing well and sensibly takes large blocks of time... :-D
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Writing well and sensibly takes large blocks of time...
Agree, I started an article on Sep 2010 but still I can't complete may be next year :sigh:
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Am I going mad
No, but:
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ppl
is missing some letters. Don't use abbreviations or you will upset some on CodeProject, but I won't say who. :) I am still learning to put apostrophe's in the correct place, but I am not very good at it.
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apostrophe's
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DaveAuld wrote:
apostrophe's
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Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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Is that a bite? :laugh:
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Yup, swallowed hook, line and sinker.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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I don't know enough about Delphi to comment on the actual article in question, let alone vote (read: "anything about Delphi") but there is a place for beginner-friendly articles here. You will always get a mix of pro- and con- opinions here, on everything. Don't take down votes seriously - that leads to an unhealthy obsession with Rep Points which leads to poorer quality (but more quantity, so higher points) output generally. The only time to take them seriously is if you get a lot of them, on the same theme / article and from high-rep people. Then it means something - usually that your output has been poor or contentious. Ignore it - and keep on producing the best quality you can. :-D
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
The 1-voter was right - it's a 101 kind of article, but his vote is undeserved because the article is, in fact, tagged as a Beginner article.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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As Marcus has pointed out the guy only ever votes on articles, 1 5 and lots of 1s. Has not contributed to the site and does not participate in discussion. Pretty close to a troll IMHO. As there are so few (I assume) articles on turbo pascal (is it still called that?) I think anything that is relevant will be appreciated. Don't let a dipstik put you off, we all get them.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
turbo pascal (is it still called that?)
Nope, it changed to Delphi long ago. I think I'd like to get my hands on a copy of Turbo Pascal, just to relive some of my past programming days. I mean seriously - a $30 compiler... I wish it was more than just a fond memory...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Mycroft Holmes wrote:
turbo pascal (is it still called that?)
Nope, it changed to Delphi long ago. I think I'd like to get my hands on a copy of Turbo Pascal, just to relive some of my past programming days. I mean seriously - a $30 compiler... I wish it was more than just a fond memory...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997I thought the IDE was called Delphi and the language was Turbo Pascal, like VS and C#. I enjoyed a year building an app in Delphi only to have to trash it and I moved it to SuperBase, what a truly bad decision that was.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Hi ppl, I am relatively new to the community regarding posting articles, and just recently I have started writing articles about Delphi. My question is, what makes a "troll". In my article Inherit me this... Inherit me that....[^], I received a comment and a downgrade on said article because it appeared to be a "101" article, because apparently the concepts I bring out are "floating about". If so, based on that (I believe biased view), then what does CP actually stand for? Am I wrong in thinking that sometimes our articles are just that? Placements of words and ideas that people think are available "everywhere"? Should I continue writing articles despite the fact? [I know I will continue writing articles here], but that particular comment really disheartened me.) Am I going mad? Is that comment made by a person who (to me) is just a troll or is he/she/it voicing many other peoples opinions?
Cheers, Glen Vlotman "You cannot code for stupidity"
One of the things I learned in English Literature is that everything is drawn from the 'tissue' of culture: we can only recycle what exists. So his comment is just as much a 'recycle' as your article. Anyway, some people just don't appreciate anything.
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Hi ppl, I am relatively new to the community regarding posting articles, and just recently I have started writing articles about Delphi. My question is, what makes a "troll". In my article Inherit me this... Inherit me that....[^], I received a comment and a downgrade on said article because it appeared to be a "101" article, because apparently the concepts I bring out are "floating about". If so, based on that (I believe biased view), then what does CP actually stand for? Am I wrong in thinking that sometimes our articles are just that? Placements of words and ideas that people think are available "everywhere"? Should I continue writing articles despite the fact? [I know I will continue writing articles here], but that particular comment really disheartened me.) Am I going mad? Is that comment made by a person who (to me) is just a troll or is he/she/it voicing many other peoples opinions?
Cheers, Glen Vlotman "You cannot code for stupidity"
Writing about already known subjects has always been around. Some people do it to show off what they know, some to learn as writing makes them ask questions they otherwise wouldn't ask. Personally, I avoid writing anything as I don't have anything to say that's not already found in one of this communities. I don't, however, find this to be good behavior, neither for me nor for community. It's just fear of failure. Shortly, you should continue writing but need to expect less from your readers, and expect criticism. You can't say anything new in IT that's not already there. You just need to try and outperform other articles and present your views in a way that will be easy to read and can hold readers attention for longer without skimming on important information. Are you up to it? :) I'm not yet :)
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Hi ppl, I am relatively new to the community regarding posting articles, and just recently I have started writing articles about Delphi. My question is, what makes a "troll". In my article Inherit me this... Inherit me that....[^], I received a comment and a downgrade on said article because it appeared to be a "101" article, because apparently the concepts I bring out are "floating about". If so, based on that (I believe biased view), then what does CP actually stand for? Am I wrong in thinking that sometimes our articles are just that? Placements of words and ideas that people think are available "everywhere"? Should I continue writing articles despite the fact? [I know I will continue writing articles here], but that particular comment really disheartened me.) Am I going mad? Is that comment made by a person who (to me) is just a troll or is he/she/it voicing many other peoples opinions?
Cheers, Glen Vlotman "You cannot code for stupidity"
Don't let it get to you.. Everyone has an opinion. I admit having posted similar comments to articles I considered "useless". But that doesn't make me a troll. Just a cranky programmer having a bad day, and getting annoyed from time to time, when I read a useless article - "Bahh what a waste of cyberspace!" But I value freedom of speech endlessly, and every opinion is important: even one that says "that was pointless".
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Hi ppl, I am relatively new to the community regarding posting articles, and just recently I have started writing articles about Delphi. My question is, what makes a "troll". In my article Inherit me this... Inherit me that....[^], I received a comment and a downgrade on said article because it appeared to be a "101" article, because apparently the concepts I bring out are "floating about". If so, based on that (I believe biased view), then what does CP actually stand for? Am I wrong in thinking that sometimes our articles are just that? Placements of words and ideas that people think are available "everywhere"? Should I continue writing articles despite the fact? [I know I will continue writing articles here], but that particular comment really disheartened me.) Am I going mad? Is that comment made by a person who (to me) is just a troll or is he/she/it voicing many other peoples opinions?
Cheers, Glen Vlotman "You cannot code for stupidity"
This is going to be controversial to some, but they are wrong so don't worry. A troll is someone who wants to start a big fight in a given forum. He is not someone who wants to be IN a fight, he doesn't actually care about any side of the argument, and all the sweet talking and reasoning in the world will do nothing to appease him. His goal is to make everybody angry so he can laugh at them. A bad troll will respond to everyone, a good troll will only comment enough to keep the ball rolling or enhance the drama. A bad troll is pathetically obvious, a good troll looks just like somebody who is passionate about a subject, a superb troll does that while still leaving subtle cues for others to recognize what he is doing. True trolling is as rare as accusations of trolling are common: they are probably inversely proportional. The people I am upsetting with my definition are the kind of simpleminded or overly-emotional sort who think anyone that disagrees with them is "a troll", and these people are not concerned about precision, accuracy, or even logic. To them, the fact that they have been opposed is a crime against nature and the perpetrator must be some sort of social deviant. These idiots will probably call me a troll, but they are wrong. Sounds like you did not encounter a troll at all, just a moron with a dumb opinion. He's probably a C# fan.
Narf.
