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    LanFanNinja
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    A note to all of those on CodeProject. I do not understand why some people on here like to down vote others solutions for no reason! Perhaps they don't understand the questions clearly? Perhaps they have something against the author of the solution? For what ever reason it may be PLEASE STOP! There is no need for this. I have posted a few solutions on here after testing the OPs code myself and understanding the problem the OP was having I wanted only to help them out. Moments after posting the solution it was down voted even though it was valid. I feel some of you here on CodeProject are to concerned with getting points to realize the true meaning of the "Quick Answers" feature of this website that being to help people! What are points going to get you? A prize? NO! I started answering questions on CodeProject to help out people who are trying to learn programming cause I understand how difficult it can be when you are just starting out. I am a self taught programmer who had no one to turn to for answers and would not post my questions on the internet for fear of being ridiculed (which I see a lot of on here as well). I am most certainly not the smartest person around and will be the first to say so but I have learned a lot over the past 7 years despite the mental and physical problems I have had in my life and I only want to help. I truly wish this site did not reward points for helping people because then maybe people would focus more on solving the questions and less on getting some meaningless points. So go ahead and down vote me if you must take all my points away if you want! That is not why I am here and it should not be why you are here either. :sigh: :(

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      A note to all of those on CodeProject. I do not understand why some people on here like to down vote others solutions for no reason! Perhaps they don't understand the questions clearly? Perhaps they have something against the author of the solution? For what ever reason it may be PLEASE STOP! There is no need for this. I have posted a few solutions on here after testing the OPs code myself and understanding the problem the OP was having I wanted only to help them out. Moments after posting the solution it was down voted even though it was valid. I feel some of you here on CodeProject are to concerned with getting points to realize the true meaning of the "Quick Answers" feature of this website that being to help people! What are points going to get you? A prize? NO! I started answering questions on CodeProject to help out people who are trying to learn programming cause I understand how difficult it can be when you are just starting out. I am a self taught programmer who had no one to turn to for answers and would not post my questions on the internet for fear of being ridiculed (which I see a lot of on here as well). I am most certainly not the smartest person around and will be the first to say so but I have learned a lot over the past 7 years despite the mental and physical problems I have had in my life and I only want to help. I truly wish this site did not reward points for helping people because then maybe people would focus more on solving the questions and less on getting some meaningless points. So go ahead and down vote me if you must take all my points away if you want! That is not why I am here and it should not be why you are here either. :sigh: :(

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      PaulowniaK
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      Your frustration is understandable, and I'm sorry to hear that you were made to feel bad despite your efforts in trying to help someone. However, your comment

      LanFanNinja wrote:

      What are points going to get you? A prize?

      seems to apply to you too. If points don't bother you, why should votes bother you? I'm not saying people should down vote things that clearly don't need to be, but at the same time, if you believe you've done the right thing, others' opinions should not affect you. Take it easy. There are far more important things in the world to get upset about.

      Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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        Your frustration is understandable, and I'm sorry to hear that you were made to feel bad despite your efforts in trying to help someone. However, your comment

        LanFanNinja wrote:

        What are points going to get you? A prize?

        seems to apply to you too. If points don't bother you, why should votes bother you? I'm not saying people should down vote things that clearly don't need to be, but at the same time, if you believe you've done the right thing, others' opinions should not affect you. Take it easy. There are far more important things in the world to get upset about.

        Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...

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        LanFanNinja
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        I feel that if a newcomer sees a correct solution that has been down voted in this way they will think the answer is incorrect and therefor will not get the help they need.

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          I feel that if a newcomer sees a correct solution that has been down voted in this way they will think the answer is incorrect and therefor will not get the help they need.

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          Albert Holguin
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          Everyone has to use their own discretion when looking at solutions, including the OP. Try not to take things so personally. :)

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            Everyone has to use their own discretion when looking at solutions, including the OP. Try not to take things so personally. :)

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            LanFanNinja
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            I am not taking it personally. I am speaking out for all those on CodeProject who spend time out of there life coming up with a good solution to help someone out only to be discredited! This comes from seeing too many people post a good solution and then moments(if not seconds) later having there solution down voted to 1 star and then seconds after that an extremely similar solution (some times the exact same solution) being posted right below it! Sometimes having a vote of 5 stars!

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              A note to all of those on CodeProject. I do not understand why some people on here like to down vote others solutions for no reason! Perhaps they don't understand the questions clearly? Perhaps they have something against the author of the solution? For what ever reason it may be PLEASE STOP! There is no need for this. I have posted a few solutions on here after testing the OPs code myself and understanding the problem the OP was having I wanted only to help them out. Moments after posting the solution it was down voted even though it was valid. I feel some of you here on CodeProject are to concerned with getting points to realize the true meaning of the "Quick Answers" feature of this website that being to help people! What are points going to get you? A prize? NO! I started answering questions on CodeProject to help out people who are trying to learn programming cause I understand how difficult it can be when you are just starting out. I am a self taught programmer who had no one to turn to for answers and would not post my questions on the internet for fear of being ridiculed (which I see a lot of on here as well). I am most certainly not the smartest person around and will be the first to say so but I have learned a lot over the past 7 years despite the mental and physical problems I have had in my life and I only want to help. I truly wish this site did not reward points for helping people because then maybe people would focus more on solving the questions and less on getting some meaningless points. So go ahead and down vote me if you must take all my points away if you want! That is not why I am here and it should not be why you are here either. :sigh: :(

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              Mycroft Holmes
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              Please, please find the [enter] key, that is one hell of a paragraph! Actually the voting system has a lot of merits, answers and voting are weighted by the rep points. Having said that you can't take it too seriously, there are PITAs in every society and we have our fair share here. Your description of plagairised answers is disturbing and I suggest you point them out to CM in the bug & sugs forum.

              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                Please, please find the [enter] key, that is one hell of a paragraph! Actually the voting system has a lot of merits, answers and voting are weighted by the rep points. Having said that you can't take it too seriously, there are PITAs in every society and we have our fair share here. Your description of plagairised answers is disturbing and I suggest you point them out to CM in the bug & sugs forum.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                LanFanNinja
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                "Please, please find the [enter] key, that is one hell of a paragraph!" Sorry I am tired and my writing skill leave something to be desired. :laugh: I do understand the rating has its good points it just sucks to see this kind of activity on a reputable site like CodeProject. P.S. I promise to work on my writing skills. ;)

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                  A note to all of those on CodeProject. I do not understand why some people on here like to down vote others solutions for no reason! Perhaps they don't understand the questions clearly? Perhaps they have something against the author of the solution? For what ever reason it may be PLEASE STOP! There is no need for this. I have posted a few solutions on here after testing the OPs code myself and understanding the problem the OP was having I wanted only to help them out. Moments after posting the solution it was down voted even though it was valid. I feel some of you here on CodeProject are to concerned with getting points to realize the true meaning of the "Quick Answers" feature of this website that being to help people! What are points going to get you? A prize? NO! I started answering questions on CodeProject to help out people who are trying to learn programming cause I understand how difficult it can be when you are just starting out. I am a self taught programmer who had no one to turn to for answers and would not post my questions on the internet for fear of being ridiculed (which I see a lot of on here as well). I am most certainly not the smartest person around and will be the first to say so but I have learned a lot over the past 7 years despite the mental and physical problems I have had in my life and I only want to help. I truly wish this site did not reward points for helping people because then maybe people would focus more on solving the questions and less on getting some meaningless points. So go ahead and down vote me if you must take all my points away if you want! That is not why I am here and it should not be why you are here either. :sigh: :(

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                  SCraw2855
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                  Rep points are more of a guide, or gentle nudge in the right direction. For me, I'm here for the code, but the atmosphere here is why I come back more often when not in need of code guidance. Some good answers get bad ratings, which some bad answers get good ratings...some are based solely on entertainment of the individual. I'm surprised no one gave you a 1-vote for this kind of post, but it's Sunday as well and maybe some religious entity is to blame? Keep giving help to those in need, and like others have replied -- do not worry yourself with such trivial matters. There was a post where you helped a worthless sob lazy person, which may have been the cause of a low score, as some of us refuse to help those with "homework" questions, or those which do not ask a direct question. This is a generalization of course, but I have noticed this on a many a post that I've read. This is a great spot to learn and grow, but it also entails the normal pitfalls of a public forum...

                  IF ButtHurt Call Have a nice day!

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                    I am not taking it personally. I am speaking out for all those on CodeProject who spend time out of there life coming up with a good solution to help someone out only to be discredited! This comes from seeing too many people post a good solution and then moments(if not seconds) later having there solution down voted to 1 star and then seconds after that an extremely similar solution (some times the exact same solution) being posted right below it! Sometimes having a vote of 5 stars!

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                    Albert Holguin
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                    I've answered a question or two here, and no, you don't speak on my behalf.

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                      Rep points are more of a guide, or gentle nudge in the right direction. For me, I'm here for the code, but the atmosphere here is why I come back more often when not in need of code guidance. Some good answers get bad ratings, which some bad answers get good ratings...some are based solely on entertainment of the individual. I'm surprised no one gave you a 1-vote for this kind of post, but it's Sunday as well and maybe some religious entity is to blame? Keep giving help to those in need, and like others have replied -- do not worry yourself with such trivial matters. There was a post where you helped a worthless sob lazy person, which may have been the cause of a low score, as some of us refuse to help those with "homework" questions, or those which do not ask a direct question. This is a generalization of course, but I have noticed this on a many a post that I've read. This is a great spot to learn and grow, but it also entails the normal pitfalls of a public forum...

                      IF ButtHurt Call Have a nice day!

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                      LanFanNinja
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                      Yes it is what it is I guess. I suppose I was just aggravated and needed to rant. This post was not meant to offend those who are on here to truly help I guess I was just hoping that some of the people who are doing these things would read this and change there ways. :confused:

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                        I've answered a question or two here, and no, you don't speak on my behalf.

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                        LanFanNinja
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                        "I am speaking out for all those on CodeProject who spend time out of there life coming up with a good solution to help someone out only to be discredited!". If you have never been WRONGLY discredited for a good solution you posted then no I suppose I am not speaking on your behalf. However if you have ... then I kind of am like it or not!

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                          "I am speaking out for all those on CodeProject who spend time out of there life coming up with a good solution to help someone out only to be discredited!". If you have never been WRONGLY discredited for a good solution you posted then no I suppose I am not speaking on your behalf. However if you have ... then I kind of am like it or not!

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                          Albert Holguin
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                          Speaking on someone's behalf implies they feel the same way. So no, you're not.

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                            A note to all of those on CodeProject. I do not understand why some people on here like to down vote others solutions for no reason! Perhaps they don't understand the questions clearly? Perhaps they have something against the author of the solution? For what ever reason it may be PLEASE STOP! There is no need for this. I have posted a few solutions on here after testing the OPs code myself and understanding the problem the OP was having I wanted only to help them out. Moments after posting the solution it was down voted even though it was valid. I feel some of you here on CodeProject are to concerned with getting points to realize the true meaning of the "Quick Answers" feature of this website that being to help people! What are points going to get you? A prize? NO! I started answering questions on CodeProject to help out people who are trying to learn programming cause I understand how difficult it can be when you are just starting out. I am a self taught programmer who had no one to turn to for answers and would not post my questions on the internet for fear of being ridiculed (which I see a lot of on here as well). I am most certainly not the smartest person around and will be the first to say so but I have learned a lot over the past 7 years despite the mental and physical problems I have had in my life and I only want to help. I truly wish this site did not reward points for helping people because then maybe people would focus more on solving the questions and less on getting some meaningless points. So go ahead and down vote me if you must take all my points away if you want! That is not why I am here and it should not be why you are here either. :sigh: :(

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                            I was post be removed for ask question to have one on one help to apply great solution to my project. If post good code he should be willing to help other person to use it?

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                              I was post be removed for ask question to have one on one help to apply great solution to my project. If post good code he should be willing to help other person to use it?

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                              LanFanNinja
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                              I am sorry I don't understand what you're saying to well but it sounds like you had a post removed for asking someone to explain there code to you? Well I assure you if it was me I would have tried to help. "If post good code he should be willing to help other person to use it?" Agreed! I always try to explain my code if asked to do so.

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                                A note to all of those on CodeProject. I do not understand why some people on here like to down vote others solutions for no reason! Perhaps they don't understand the questions clearly? Perhaps they have something against the author of the solution? For what ever reason it may be PLEASE STOP! There is no need for this. I have posted a few solutions on here after testing the OPs code myself and understanding the problem the OP was having I wanted only to help them out. Moments after posting the solution it was down voted even though it was valid. I feel some of you here on CodeProject are to concerned with getting points to realize the true meaning of the "Quick Answers" feature of this website that being to help people! What are points going to get you? A prize? NO! I started answering questions on CodeProject to help out people who are trying to learn programming cause I understand how difficult it can be when you are just starting out. I am a self taught programmer who had no one to turn to for answers and would not post my questions on the internet for fear of being ridiculed (which I see a lot of on here as well). I am most certainly not the smartest person around and will be the first to say so but I have learned a lot over the past 7 years despite the mental and physical problems I have had in my life and I only want to help. I truly wish this site did not reward points for helping people because then maybe people would focus more on solving the questions and less on getting some meaningless points. So go ahead and down vote me if you must take all my points away if you want! That is not why I am here and it should not be why you are here either. :sigh: :(

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                I feel your pain, though I guess I'm not so much frustrated with it as you are :) I've seen answers similiar to my own that got upvoted while my earlier posted answer got downvoted. I've already suggested to make comments mandatory when downvoting, but it didn't come through. Don't be fooled though, sometimes it is also the OP that downvotes. Giving a perfect valid answer that the OP does not understand might be reason for downvotes (and unfortunately many OP's in QA don't understand a lot). Then there's the people that expect an answer they can copy/paste into their own code which magically makes it work, but who simply get a link and the message 'RTFM'. While to me that is perfectly valid if the link does indeed elaborate on the OP's question many people are not amused by this and for them is a reason to downvote. There are a lot of lazy and unthankful people out there. I do it for the few people that can still be saved :)

                                It's an OO world.

                                public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
                                public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
                                }

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                                  I feel your pain, though I guess I'm not so much frustrated with it as you are :) I've seen answers similiar to my own that got upvoted while my earlier posted answer got downvoted. I've already suggested to make comments mandatory when downvoting, but it didn't come through. Don't be fooled though, sometimes it is also the OP that downvotes. Giving a perfect valid answer that the OP does not understand might be reason for downvotes (and unfortunately many OP's in QA don't understand a lot). Then there's the people that expect an answer they can copy/paste into their own code which magically makes it work, but who simply get a link and the message 'RTFM'. While to me that is perfectly valid if the link does indeed elaborate on the OP's question many people are not amused by this and for them is a reason to downvote. There are a lot of lazy and unthankful people out there. I do it for the few people that can still be saved :)

                                  It's an OO world.

                                  public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
                                  public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
                                  }

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                                  Naerling wrote:

                                  sometimes it is also the OP that downvotes. Giving a perfect valid answer that the OP does not understand might be reason for downvotes (and unfortunately many OP's in QA don't understand a lot).

                                  Agree, couple of them always busy with creating reposts instead of edit & updating original questions.

                                  thatraja


                                  My Dad had a Heart Attack on this day so don't...
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                                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                    I feel your pain, though I guess I'm not so much frustrated with it as you are :) I've seen answers similiar to my own that got upvoted while my earlier posted answer got downvoted. I've already suggested to make comments mandatory when downvoting, but it didn't come through. Don't be fooled though, sometimes it is also the OP that downvotes. Giving a perfect valid answer that the OP does not understand might be reason for downvotes (and unfortunately many OP's in QA don't understand a lot). Then there's the people that expect an answer they can copy/paste into their own code which magically makes it work, but who simply get a link and the message 'RTFM'. While to me that is perfectly valid if the link does indeed elaborate on the OP's question many people are not amused by this and for them is a reason to downvote. There are a lot of lazy and unthankful people out there. I do it for the few people that can still be saved :)

                                    It's an OO world.

                                    public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
                                    public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
                                    }

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                                    Mandatory comments for down votes is a great idea! Its is a shame they did not listen to you. I have also seen this happen to yours (and others solutions) and that is why I got aggravated not just because it was happening to me but because it was happening to a lot of people. I know sometimes my answers are not all they should be and when(if) those answers are down voted I see this as fair. And then there is the the other times when ... well I will give an example of a recent incident. I posted a solution for someone that I knew to be correct and only seconds after posting it was down voted to 1 star and a new(just posted) solution below mine that had very little relevance to the question was vote 5 stars! A little while later the OP returned voted my solution as the answer and thanked me very much for helping him cause he had been stuck for a while with this problem. Anyway thats life I guess. :confused:

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                                      Naerling wrote:

                                      sometimes it is also the OP that downvotes. Giving a perfect valid answer that the OP does not understand might be reason for downvotes (and unfortunately many OP's in QA don't understand a lot).

                                      Agree, couple of them always busy with creating reposts instead of edit & updating original questions.

                                      thatraja


                                      My Dad had a Heart Attack on this day so don't...
                                      Pompeyboy3 here
                                      | Nobody remains a virgin, Life screws everyone :sigh:

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                                      LanFanNinja
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                                      Or posting additional question or comments as solutions. :laugh: But I forgive them cause there noobs. See my reply to Naerling below for an example of the kind of tomfoolery that causes me to get aggravated.

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                                        Naerling wrote:

                                        sometimes it is also the OP that downvotes. Giving a perfect valid answer that the OP does not understand might be reason for downvotes (and unfortunately many OP's in QA don't understand a lot).

                                        Agree, couple of them always busy with creating reposts instead of edit & updating original questions.

                                        thatraja


                                        My Dad had a Heart Attack on this day so don't...
                                        Pompeyboy3 here
                                        | Nobody remains a virgin, Life screws everyone :sigh:

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                                        Report them as reposts, that'll teach them! :)

                                        It's an OO world.

                                        public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
                                        public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
                                        }

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                                          I was post be removed for ask question to have one on one help to apply great solution to my project. If post good code he should be willing to help other person to use it?

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                                          Bubesh87 wrote:

                                          I was post be removed for ask question to have one on one help to apply great solution to my project.

                                          Umm, what? :confused:

                                          I love go-o-o-o-ld!

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