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    Member 96
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    From today's MSDN "enews":

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    Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

    W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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      From today's MSDN "enews":

      Quote:

      Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

      W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Eh, depends greatly on the presenter.

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        From today's MSDN "enews":

        Quote:

        Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

        W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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        Mycroft Holmes
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        Marketing John, when you have your head up your own arse then all you can hear is yourself. Explains everything!

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        • M Member 96

          From today's MSDN "enews":

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          Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

          W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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          Albert Holguin
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          I somewhat agree... depends on what the video is on. If it's introducing some new technology/feature/or something like that, then I actually like videos, specially because when it comes to looking at that, I'm usually browsing taking a break from looking at code (i.e. reading).

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            Eh, depends greatly on the presenter.

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            jschell
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            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

            Eh, depends greatly on the presenter.

            You mean like what their body looks like and whether they are wearing clothes or not?

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            • M Member 96

              From today's MSDN "enews":

              Quote:

              Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

              W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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              jschell
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              John C wrote:

              W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell.

              I have never watched a video to learn about a technical feature. But to be fair the vast majority of technical content presented as text sucks as well. I usually just look for several examples and then try to guess what it really does.

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              • M Member 96

                From today's MSDN "enews":

                Quote:

                Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

                W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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                Marc Clifton
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                Wrong forum. I'm reporting this as a VB forum question! ;) Marc

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                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  Eh, depends greatly on the presenter.

                  You mean like what their body looks like and whether they are wearing clothes or not?

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  Yes, but in a more kid-sister-friendly way.

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                  • M Member 96

                    From today's MSDN "enews":

                    Quote:

                    Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

                    W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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                    Phil Martin
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                    Totally on the same page, and I mean "page", and not 2:37 in to some video feed of a group full of guys making in-jokes with 5 seconds of technical content per minute. C'mon guys, seriously. I appreciate the effort in getting to know the teams involved, but I need to _read_ about the technical changes, not spend 3 hours a day watching movies. At the very least run it through some speech recognition so I can skim the content to see if it looks interesting. I'm feeling old.

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                    • M Member 96

                      From today's MSDN "enews":

                      Quote:

                      Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

                      W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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                      leppie
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                      What people want is interactive guidance. I think webcasts/conferences are probably the way to go, but the cost is too high.

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                      • M Member 96

                        From today's MSDN "enews":

                        Quote:

                        Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

                        W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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                        peterchen
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                        It's all the kids they let near computers now. They asked for "more samples", they got it. To bad they didn't specifically ask for quality samples.

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                        • M Member 96

                          From today's MSDN "enews":

                          Quote:

                          Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

                          W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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                          TorstenH
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                          I want video. Because nobody will figure the difference between searching for a solution and watching youtube.

                          regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                            From today's MSDN "enews":

                            Quote:

                            Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

                            W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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                            Christian Graus
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                            I refuse to learn from video. I also refuse to watch news that comes as a video feed. Give me words or you've lost me.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Yes, but in a more kid-sister-friendly way.

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                              Jorgen Andersson
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                              I might prefer the soapbox way.

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                                From today's MSDN "enews":

                                Quote:

                                Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

                                W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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                                realJSOP
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                                I think They're talking to the same mystery group of developers they constantly poll when they want to start working on the next version of visual studio. These same mystery developers are the ones that help determine what new features will be added, or what bugs should be fixed.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  Totally on the same page, and I mean "page", and not 2:37 in to some video feed of a group full of guys making in-jokes with 5 seconds of technical content per minute. C'mon guys, seriously. I appreciate the effort in getting to know the teams involved, but I need to _read_ about the technical changes, not spend 3 hours a day watching movies. At the very least run it through some speech recognition so I can skim the content to see if it looks interesting. I'm feeling old.

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                                  sweavo_old
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                                  This. Not the old part, obv. I'm in an open plan office and I like to catch up while compiling. Video content is therefore useless to me unless I want to spam the whole office with the noise, or put on headphones and miss the lunch van. Also you don't need to press pause on a page of text, you just stop reading. Then when you come back you don't need to use a seek bar to regain the context of where you were.

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                                    I think They're talking to the same mystery group of developers they constantly poll when they want to start working on the next version of visual studio. These same mystery developers are the ones that help determine what new features will be added, or what bugs should be fixed.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                    Peter Mulholland
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                                    Those guys don't like tree views either apparently. B4$t4rds!

                                    Pete

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                                    • M Member 96

                                      From today's MSDN "enews":

                                      Quote:

                                      Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

                                      W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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                                      Chris Meech
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                                      They are talking to the mystery developers who watch videos to learn and then come to CP to post questions so they can understand. :)

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                                      • M Member 96

                                        From today's MSDN "enews":

                                        Quote:

                                        Over the last few months, you’ve been telling us what you need in order to be connected and stay relevant with your skills and career. You told us you wanted video content because learning is a lot more engaging when you can see something rather than just reading something.

                                        W...T....F...? Seriously? Does anyone else here support this? I absolutely loathe video content when there is no text only option. It's slow, it's synchronous / serial. It's annoying as hell. I don't mind video when it's introducing something new like an overview of a new technology or something but for learning actual detailed technical content... not so much.


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                                        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                        Most FAQs are not frequently asked questions at all but marketing's vision of what questions should be asked. I hate video content as well.

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