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Is the UK a country, or are it's constituent states countries, or both?

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    Brady Kelly
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    The question has arisen in a Twitter thread. Wikipedia entries for UK and England describe both as countries, but I recognised that similar questions have been asked often enough here to expect a good answer.

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      The question has arisen in a Twitter thread. Wikipedia entries for UK and England describe both as countries, but I recognised that similar questions have been asked often enough here to expect a good answer.

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      All I know is that England also is an island...

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      • B Brady Kelly

        The question has arisen in a Twitter thread. Wikipedia entries for UK and England describe both as countries, but I recognised that similar questions have been asked often enough here to expect a good answer.

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        Nagy Vilmos
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        We have a huge bucket of semantics to wade through to get to the answer. England [and Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland] is a country in its own right. The UK is a sovereign state and so is thought of as a country.


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          The question has arisen in a Twitter thread. Wikipedia entries for UK and England describe both as countries, but I recognised that similar questions have been asked often enough here to expect a good answer.

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          Brady Kelly wrote:

          Wikipedia entries for UK and England describe both as countries

          NO - Not according to Berginonv's Enhanced Revelation (Vol 3-5)

          Brady Kelly wrote:

          questions have been asked often enough here to expect a good answer.

          You're apparently not someone deluded by high expectorations expectations. That can be a good thing.

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            We have a huge bucket of semantics to wade through to get to the answer. England [and Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland] is a country in its own right. The UK is a sovereign state and so is thought of as a country.


            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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            and you forgot Lochaline, it is country too, isn't it?

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            • B Brady Kelly

              The question has arisen in a Twitter thread. Wikipedia entries for UK and England describe both as countries, but I recognised that similar questions have been asked often enough here to expect a good answer.

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              England, Wales and Scotland are countries on the island of Great Britain (Less Britain is part of what is now France). Northern Ireland is a (sort of) country on the island of Ireland. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a sovereign state governed by the UK Government under the direction of the fascist EU. The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are self-governing states under the protection of the Crown (Head of State of the UK). Simples tsk!

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                England, Wales and Scotland are countries on the island of Great Britain (Less Britain is part of what is now France). Northern Ireland is a (sort of) country on the island of Ireland. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a sovereign state governed by the UK Government under the direction of the fascist EU. The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are self-governing states under the protection of the Crown (Head of State of the UK). Simples tsk!

                Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman

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                Interesting* Fact. Berwick-upon-tweed is still at war with Germany. At the declaration of war, it hadn't been decided whether BoT was in England or Scotland, so England, Scotland and Berwick-upon-tweed declared war on Germany etc. By the end of the war, the matter had been settled, so only England and Scotland declared peace.

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                • B Brady Kelly

                  The question has arisen in a Twitter thread. Wikipedia entries for UK and England describe both as countries, but I recognised that similar questions have been asked often enough here to expect a good answer.

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                  Chris Meech
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                  I don't have an answer for you, but once DD returns, I fully expect a most definitive and non-understandable one. :)

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    The question has arisen in a Twitter thread. Wikipedia entries for UK and England describe both as countries, but I recognised that similar questions have been asked often enough here to expect a good answer.

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    This image is interesting: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5xZ6wjp9REM/TWWdZUWGE8I/AAAAAAAABeA/DA83x9ayRq0/s1600/British%252Bvenn%252Bdiagram.gif[^]

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                      This image is interesting: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5xZ6wjp9REM/TWWdZUWGE8I/AAAAAAAABeA/DA83x9ayRq0/s1600/British%252Bvenn%252Bdiagram.gif[^]

                      Regards, Nish


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                      I don't think you'll find many (southern) Irishmen who believe their country is part of the British Isles.

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                      • N Nagy Vilmos

                        We have a huge bucket of semantics to wade through to get to the answer. England [and Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland] is a country in its own right. The UK is a sovereign state and so is thought of as a country.


                        Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett

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                        Except Scotland has its own laws and the chanel islands have a different pound to the mainland, with the Queen as their head, are not part of the UK and have their own laws. So no, they are seperate countries, with seperate languages too. :)

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          The question has arisen in a Twitter thread. Wikipedia entries for UK and England describe both as countries, but I recognised that similar questions have been asked often enough here to expect a good answer.

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                          Different countries, one Queen. Even though other countries, the channel islands have the same queen and arent part of the kingdom. Odd? Yep. Its a fucked up world!

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