Old browsers. Real old browsers
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Just to ensure those who feel old today feel really old, I was just wondering who here remembers the Netscape browser when it first came out, most notably the bit where, when you resized the browser, the entire page was reloaded from scratch. I'm just wondering if there are any other nuggets of pain from those early browsers I've forgotten. Any blasts from the past?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Not so much a nugget of pain, but my first Internet experience. It was in 1993 on a text-only browser, it must of been on Mosaic (wasn't an IT bod back then, I was theoretically reading Chemistry at that point). The College Computer Spod (the official title given to the student that acted as first-line tech support) was a friend and was demonstrating saying "This is the future, apparently". I remember being sceptical, and saying that it'll never take off until you can see pictures of women in the nip. Heads nodded sagely.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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Just to ensure those who feel old today feel really old, I was just wondering who here remembers the Netscape browser when it first came out, most notably the bit where, when you resized the browser, the entire page was reloaded from scratch. I'm just wondering if there are any other nuggets of pain from those early browsers I've forgotten. Any blasts from the past?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Not a browser, as such (although I used both Mosaic and Netscape), but my most painful memories of that era were caused by Compuserve and trying to continue using it after t'Internet came into existence.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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Just to ensure those who feel old today feel really old, I was just wondering who here remembers the Netscape browser when it first came out, most notably the bit where, when you resized the browser, the entire page was reloaded from scratch. I'm just wondering if there are any other nuggets of pain from those early browsers I've forgotten. Any blasts from the past?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I'm just wondering if there are any other nuggets of pain from those early browsers I've forgotten. Any blasts from the past?
We take too much for granted today. Pain? not really considering the times we were in and what we had web-wise was on par with the technology available - overall an awesome learning experience. For this mid 40s old flatus the first web browser was Lynx, closely followed by Mosaic and then Netscape. Back in the earlier half of the 90s I helped launch one of the first high bandwidth ISPs in my region and clearly remember Microsoft missing entirely on the incipient web; if there was any nugget of pain it had to be watching IE taking its first wobbly steps... -- RP PS. Read with interest the other comments about 14.4k modems. Bunch of kids, my first modem was a 300 baud one, back in the days of Gopher and MUDs.
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Just to ensure those who feel old today feel really old, I was just wondering who here remembers the Netscape browser when it first came out, most notably the bit where, when you resized the browser, the entire page was reloaded from scratch. I'm just wondering if there are any other nuggets of pain from those early browsers I've forgotten. Any blasts from the past?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
We called it "NutScrape"...
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Just to ensure those who feel old today feel really old, I was just wondering who here remembers the Netscape browser when it first came out, most notably the bit where, when you resized the browser, the entire page was reloaded from scratch. I'm just wondering if there are any other nuggets of pain from those early browsers I've forgotten. Any blasts from the past?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Netscape! Hah! Lynx, mate! no inline images. None of your GUI malarkey! I was writing for Your Computer mag here in Aus at the time, and we did a deal with a local ISP (they were actually a BBS with internet options) to give every reader a free chance to see what this internet thing was all about... Demand was somewhat too high and all the phone lines were engaged throughout the free period, but interest was maintained, and I like to think I played my part in popularising the interwebs in our little corner of the globe. Lordy it seems such a long time ago, imagine what the world would be like if we were still on Lynx !!!
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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Bunch of kids. :p I started with Mosaic. :)
So I rounded up my camel Just to ask him for a smoke He handed me a Lucky, I said "Hey, you missed the joke." My Mu[sic] My Films My Windows Programs, etc.
I started with building mosaic in order to use it. Garr, when I was a lad...
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I'm so old my first browser was Abacus 1.0
"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011
Pfffft. I was using the beta.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Not so much a nugget of pain, but my first Internet experience. It was in 1993 on a text-only browser, it must of been on Mosaic (wasn't an IT bod back then, I was theoretically reading Chemistry at that point). The College Computer Spod (the official title given to the student that acted as first-line tech support) was a friend and was demonstrating saying "This is the future, apparently". I remember being sceptical, and saying that it'll never take off until you can see pictures of women in the nip. Heads nodded sagely.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]Quote:
I remember being sceptical, and saying that it'll never take off until you can see pictures of women in the nip. Heads nodded sagely
A true visionary. I'm embarrassed to say that all I wanted to useit for was downloading applications. If we'd both invested in thejappropriate enterprises you would have retired far earlier than I.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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I remember being sceptical, and saying that it'll never take off until you can see pictures of women in the nip. Heads nodded sagely
A true visionary. I'm embarrassed to say that all I wanted to useit for was downloading applications. If we'd both invested in thejappropriate enterprises you would have retired far earlier than I.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Haven't you already retired, making the hamsters do all the work? :laugh:
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Just to ensure those who feel old today feel really old, I was just wondering who here remembers the Netscape browser when it first came out, most notably the bit where, when you resized the browser, the entire page was reloaded from scratch. I'm just wondering if there are any other nuggets of pain from those early browsers I've forgotten. Any blasts from the past?
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I don't remember which browser was my first. What was current in 1993, running on DOS? Not that there was any real Internet here back then. We had to dial into a BBS with a DOS-based terminal emulator - I used ProComm - then connect to the host's portal to his private, dedicated Internet connection. Frankly, the Internet wasn't much use, since there were no search engines, and if you didn't know a URL for a site you wanted to view, you were screwed. Nice guy, Ripper - he charged $20 a month for the works, but it was on the honor system; there was a drop box at the local computer shop, and you stuck 20 bucks in the box when you remembered to stop by. Of course, that was a big improvement over my banking online experience in 1985, using a 300 baud modem on an Epson QX-10[^] running TP/M+. The Epson had 4 switchable banks of 64k RAM, and hosted Valdocs, a combination spreadsheet, word processor, database, and communications tool. It took about 30 minutes to check my account balance and make a transfer between accounts, but it was a vast time savings, since the nearest Bank of America was 10 miles away, down the mountain, and we were frequently snowed in. :-D
Will Rogers never met me.
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Pfffft. I was using the beta.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
heheh Wow and here I thought I was all high-tech with my bamboo version in hexadecimal (we had plugins by then)... But I guess an early abacist such as yourself must have had to move stones around in sand and used the vigesimal system - I guess that must have been the equivalent of punch cards... ? Now, somehow I don't feel quite as old! :laugh: Cheers Chris!! BTW in preparation for tonight's retort I learned the following new words: 1. abacist 2. vigesimal
"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011
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I don't remember which browser was my first. What was current in 1993, running on DOS? Not that there was any real Internet here back then. We had to dial into a BBS with a DOS-based terminal emulator - I used ProComm - then connect to the host's portal to his private, dedicated Internet connection. Frankly, the Internet wasn't much use, since there were no search engines, and if you didn't know a URL for a site you wanted to view, you were screwed. Nice guy, Ripper - he charged $20 a month for the works, but it was on the honor system; there was a drop box at the local computer shop, and you stuck 20 bucks in the box when you remembered to stop by. Of course, that was a big improvement over my banking online experience in 1985, using a 300 baud modem on an Epson QX-10[^] running TP/M+. The Epson had 4 switchable banks of 64k RAM, and hosted Valdocs, a combination spreadsheet, word processor, database, and communications tool. It took about 30 minutes to check my account balance and make a transfer between accounts, but it was a vast time savings, since the nearest Bank of America was 10 miles away, down the mountain, and we were frequently snowed in. :-D
Will Rogers never met me.
Ok, you win. :omg:
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Ok, you win. :omg:
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
I didn't know it was a contest. Is there a prize involved? :rolleyes:
Will Rogers never met me.
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I didn't know it was a contest. Is there a prize involved? :rolleyes:
Will Rogers never met me.
"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011
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"... having only that moment finished a vigorous game of Wiff-Waff and eaten a tartiflet." - Henry Minute "...who gives a tinker's cuss?" - Dalek Dave "Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!" - gavindon It's plain that they do not yet know what true fear really is. - JSOP 2011
:-D Ah, the memories... All 4k of them.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Any blasts from the past?
My oldest memories of using GUI browsers is browsing with images turned off (because of my 14.4 Kbps connection, later upgraded to 33.6 Kbps)! Not good memories those. X|
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com You've gotta read this : Using lambdas - C++ vs. C# vs. C++/CX vs. C++/CLI
I do remember your complaints about your dial-up connection while you lived in Trivandrum (pardon me if I've misspelled it).
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Pfffft. I was using the beta.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Are you still supporting it? Rummages around... finds Abacus 0.7beta... gets the paper tape reader going again... ratcheta-ratcheta-(lots of ratcheta's)...
ABACUS 0.7.143beta ADDR: http://www.codeproject.com Loading... Loading... The Code Project Your Developme**!~!@#!~~~~CARRIER LOST**I guess not. Too bad. I rather liked the spare Abacus UI. They went to crap after Google bought them and used their renderer in Chrome.Software Zen:
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Not a browser, as such (although I used both Mosaic and Netscape), but my most painful memories of that era were caused by Compuserve and trying to continue using it after t'Internet came into existence.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
I think my step-dad helped turn off the lights in CompuServe. He was one of the first users when it became available, and finally gave it up when it shut down in 2009.
Software Zen:
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I think my step-dad helped turn off the lights in CompuServe. He was one of the first users when it became available, and finally gave it up when it shut down in 2009.
Software Zen:
delete this;Hadn't realized it was still going for that long.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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Netscape! Hah! Lynx, mate! no inline images. None of your GUI malarkey! I was writing for Your Computer mag here in Aus at the time, and we did a deal with a local ISP (they were actually a BBS with internet options) to give every reader a free chance to see what this internet thing was all about... Demand was somewhat too high and all the phone lines were engaged throughout the free period, but interest was maintained, and I like to think I played my part in popularising the interwebs in our little corner of the globe. Lordy it seems such a long time ago, imagine what the world would be like if we were still on Lynx !!!
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
_Maxxx_ wrote:
I like to think I played my part in popularising the interwebs in our little corner of the globe.
We had Al Gore here in the states.
