Things That make You Go "Hmmmm..."
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- This opened the door for all of the following things (in my original list) to happen 1) KBR is a Blackwater subsidiary. Why would they need Intenrnment specialists if they werent expecting to inter a bunch of people? 2) FEMA camps are all over the country. They've been under construction for years, and they're all ready now. 3) Do a google search for Napolitano and "mass influx of immigrants". 4) We DO have a 30,000-man federal police force in place. Returning troops will be used to augment this force (if they aren't moved to another "trouble spot" somewhere - like Syria. The drawdown I was talking about was only with regard to National Guard troops, not border patrol agents. My sister is in the Border patrol, so I'm pretty familiar with what's happening (or NOT happening) to keep our borders secure. 5) They aren't "vets", they're active-duty, Reserve, and Guard troops. "Vets" implies they're no longer in the service. Now that the Iraq troops are coming home, they can replace the reserves and Guard troops with more active-duty troops. While I'm here, I'll add that it has come to light (a week or two ago) that the Fast & Furious operation run by the ATF was an exercise NOT to interdict guns being taken to mexico, but to support a reason to seriously cripple or altogether eliminate the 2nd Amendment. Once the population is disarmed, it will be eaiser to move forward with whatever plans they have. That was a cog in this wheel that broke off when ATF agent Terry was killed by one of the weapons the ATF allowed to cross unimpeded into Mexico. Fortunately for us, the ATF got caught, and that part of the plan kinda fell apart. When I was in the military, I was taught the importance of situational awareness. This is one of those times when situiational awareness is critical. I'm not saying anything bad is definitely going to happen, but the congruence of coincidences that I've mentioned demands a little more than just a sideways glance.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Why would they need Intenrnment specialists if they werent expecting to inter a bunch of people?
You tell me. How many are they hiring? Like I said - Details. FEMA camps - like I said too "Black Helicopter" for me. 3. Did the search - found no reliable source, nor do I understand what this is suppose to imply. 4. Simply don't believe you. What is you source of information? What is this force called? I'm assuming it's something other than the FBI.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
drawdown I was talking about was only with regard to National Guard troops,
So, what's the big deal? A very small force that was only temporary is removed.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
they can replace the reserves and Guard troops with more active-duty troops.
What are you talking about here? Replace them from what?
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
to support a reason to seriously cripple or altogether eliminate the 2nd Amendment.
Exactly how was that suppose to work? What was the planned sequence of events that would have lead to seizing everyones guns? And the previous administration was doing the same thing - this isn't the first time the ATF has let guns go across the border.
The Left - Taking shit for being right since before you were born. - driftglass
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Slacker007 wrote:
He is a gun owning Republican, just like you
I don't ally myself with any party. I support and defend the Constitution and its intended meaning (as opposed to interpretations by Constitutional "scholars", politicians, and lawyers) above all else. That is my ideology and platform. The 2nd Amendment is there so that we can keep the rest of our rights. That's its primary purpose.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997You are preaching to the choir, John. Believe it or not, I am on your side here. I just like teasing you about it. ;)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
- This opened the door for all of the following things (in my original list) to happen 1) KBR is a Blackwater subsidiary. Why would they need Intenrnment specialists if they werent expecting to inter a bunch of people? 2) FEMA camps are all over the country. They've been under construction for years, and they're all ready now. 3) Do a google search for Napolitano and "mass influx of immigrants". 4) We DO have a 30,000-man federal police force in place. Returning troops will be used to augment this force (if they aren't moved to another "trouble spot" somewhere - like Syria. The drawdown I was talking about was only with regard to National Guard troops, not border patrol agents. My sister is in the Border patrol, so I'm pretty familiar with what's happening (or NOT happening) to keep our borders secure. 5) They aren't "vets", they're active-duty, Reserve, and Guard troops. "Vets" implies they're no longer in the service. Now that the Iraq troops are coming home, they can replace the reserves and Guard troops with more active-duty troops. While I'm here, I'll add that it has come to light (a week or two ago) that the Fast & Furious operation run by the ATF was an exercise NOT to interdict guns being taken to mexico, but to support a reason to seriously cripple or altogether eliminate the 2nd Amendment. Once the population is disarmed, it will be eaiser to move forward with whatever plans they have. That was a cog in this wheel that broke off when ATF agent Terry was killed by one of the weapons the ATF allowed to cross unimpeded into Mexico. Fortunately for us, the ATF got caught, and that part of the plan kinda fell apart. When I was in the military, I was taught the importance of situational awareness. This is one of those times when situiational awareness is critical. I'm not saying anything bad is definitely going to happen, but the congruence of coincidences that I've mentioned demands a little more than just a sideways glance.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Majerus is a troll. Do not debate with this person.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
Majerus is a troll. Do not debate with this person.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
You are preaching to the choir, John. Believe it or not, I am on your side here. I just like teasing you about it. ;)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)I know. :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
I remember getting FLAMED from posting things like this years ago.... To Oakman "I TOLD YOU SO!" yes it is very troubling that america has been hijacked. but on the same hand i live in a sensible country at the bottom of the world so i am sweet ill watch america get "cleansed" on RT most likely
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Why would they need Intenrnment specialists if they werent expecting to inter a bunch of people?
You tell me. How many are they hiring? Like I said - Details. FEMA camps - like I said too "Black Helicopter" for me. 3. Did the search - found no reliable source, nor do I understand what this is suppose to imply. 4. Simply don't believe you. What is you source of information? What is this force called? I'm assuming it's something other than the FBI.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
drawdown I was talking about was only with regard to National Guard troops,
So, what's the big deal? A very small force that was only temporary is removed.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
they can replace the reserves and Guard troops with more active-duty troops.
What are you talking about here? Replace them from what?
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
to support a reason to seriously cripple or altogether eliminate the 2nd Amendment.
Exactly how was that suppose to work? What was the planned sequence of events that would have lead to seizing everyones guns? And the previous administration was doing the same thing - this isn't the first time the ATF has let guns go across the border.
The Left - Taking shit for being right since before you were born. - driftglass
Federal Police Force (AKA "Northern Command") http://itistreason.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/is-the-government-lying-about-northcom-northern-command-3/[^] Fast & Furious was being used to convince TPTB that more gun control is necessary (google BAF's attempt to focre FFL dealers to report the purchase of five or more long guns in a single purchase/week). If you can't find that, google "BATFE Demand Letter 3". Obama assured the Brady Campaign that he was "working behind the scenes" to effect additional cgun control. Right after that, Fast & Furious was exposed, and in the ongoing Congressional investigation, it was revealed that the intent of Fast & Furious was NOT to interdict weapons going to Mexico from the US, but was instead intended to coerce congress and the population at large that more gun control was needed. Do your own research. If you still don't believe all of the facts that you find, and if sh*t goes sideways on us, I hope you enjoy your stay in the internment camp. Don't forget to pack your toothbrush - oh wait, nevermind - the governemt will be providing everything you need.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
You're starting to sound like some of my stupider friends around the time of Bush's second election. They also threatened to leave, which they unfortunately did not follow up on. Also, when exactly was it people started treating FEMA like it was a bond villian's organization? I'm playing Deus Ex and just blew through a FEMA compound that puts most evil bases to shame. It was fun, but still.
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Federal Police Force (AKA "Northern Command") http://itistreason.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/is-the-government-lying-about-northcom-northern-command-3/[^] Fast & Furious was being used to convince TPTB that more gun control is necessary (google BAF's attempt to focre FFL dealers to report the purchase of five or more long guns in a single purchase/week). If you can't find that, google "BATFE Demand Letter 3". Obama assured the Brady Campaign that he was "working behind the scenes" to effect additional cgun control. Right after that, Fast & Furious was exposed, and in the ongoing Congressional investigation, it was revealed that the intent of Fast & Furious was NOT to interdict weapons going to Mexico from the US, but was instead intended to coerce congress and the population at large that more gun control was needed. Do your own research. If you still don't believe all of the facts that you find, and if sh*t goes sideways on us, I hope you enjoy your stay in the internment camp. Don't forget to pack your toothbrush - oh wait, nevermind - the governemt will be providing everything you need.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Federal Police Force (AKA "Northern Command")
Ah, that's why I was unclear about what you are talking about. It's not a police force. I don't agree with your interpretation, but that's cool.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Fast & Furious was being used to convince TPTB that more gun control is necessary
Like I asked in the previous post - How would this have been used? What was the plan that would end with seizing everyones guns?
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
but was instead intended to coerce congress and the population at large that more gun control was needed.
How? It's seems like the killing of an ATF agent would have been a good starting point. I'm still wondering why you think the removal of the temporary N.G. presence on the border is significant.
The Left - Taking shit for being right since before you were born. - driftglass
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Federal Police Force (AKA "Northern Command")
Ah, that's why I was unclear about what you are talking about. It's not a police force. I don't agree with your interpretation, but that's cool.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Fast & Furious was being used to convince TPTB that more gun control is necessary
Like I asked in the previous post - How would this have been used? What was the plan that would end with seizing everyones guns?
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
but was instead intended to coerce congress and the population at large that more gun control was needed.
How? It's seems like the killing of an ATF agent would have been a good starting point. I'm still wondering why you think the removal of the temporary N.G. presence on the border is significant.
The Left - Taking shit for being right since before you were born. - driftglass
Majerus wrote:
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
but was instead intended to coerce congress and the population at large that more gun control was needed.
How? It's seems like the killing of an ATF agent would have been a good starting point.
I'm still wondering why you think the removal of the temporary N.G. presence on the border is significant.It was more or less like the police planting evidence. Even if they "know" the plantee is a criminal, it's a naughty thing to do. Worse in this case because people have died from this "evidence", and not only the border officer.
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This all happened last week: 0) NDAA passed, allowing the military to arrest anyone for any reason and detain them indifinitely without charge or legal representation. 1) KBR and US Army advertising new job openings, looking to hire "Internment Specialists". 2) FEMA camps are being staffed and readied for use 3) Janet Napolitano telling ICE agency to "prepare for mass influx of immigrants". 4) Bulk of National Guard troops pulled off US border patrol duties, leaving only 1/10th of the previous manpower levels. 5) Iraq war officially ended, and civilian police agencies are receiving military equipment because the feds don't need it any more, and US troops returning home are going to be "transitioned" into the role of federal police force. I wonder if we'll even make it to the elections next year... EDIT ============================== Yeah 1-vote this all you want. Not liking the apparent truth doesn't change it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
0. This is a serious problem - I can agree with you on that. 1. Doesn't sound like much. Would really need some detail. 2. FEMA camps - a bit too "Black Helicopter" for me. 3. Couldn't find anything from a reliable source. Nor do I understand what this is suppose to imply. 4. Found this one and the implication is a lie. There were only about 1200 National Guard on the border and they were only there temporarily. There are something like 21000 border patrol, so the removal of ALL of the guard is like a 5% reduction. 5. The para-militarization of the police forces has been occurring over the last 30 years, starting with the so called war on drugs. The draw down in Iraq is irrelevant. A new federal police force manned by vets seems to be more "Black Helicopter" stuff.
The Left - Taking shit for being right since before you were born. - driftglass
1. There are no job adverts on KBR's websites mentioning internment, and if it's all being done with such secrecy, wouldn't the fact that there are NO adverts of this kind be more suspicious?
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Heh, I was chatting on ICQ with a German friend, and he mentioned something about the US turning into the Fourth Reich... you know we're doomed when the GERMANS start talking about the Fourth Reich!
Yeah seems the U.S beat them to it after the Greeks held them off... AGAIN
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