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  • D Dalek Dave

    Did a little Birdie tell you that?

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    Henry Minute
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    Nope! It was a military chap. A Colonel something-or-other.

    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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      Nope! It was a military chap. A Colonel something-or-other.

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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      Dalek Dave
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      A Colonel? He has come a Fair Way.

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      • C CPallini

        The goto statement! Freshly released Lua 5.2[^] provides it. :rolleyes:

        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
        [My articles]

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        S Houghtelin
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        I use the goto statement all the time! :-D I need to goto the hardware store. Goto to you room! I have to goto the bathroom. ..and... Goto hell!

        It was broke, so I fixed it.

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        • C CPallini

          The goto statement! Freshly released Lua 5.2[^] provides it. :rolleyes:

          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
          [My articles]

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          Chris Losinger
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          if it's good enough for the CPU, it's good enough for me.

          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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          • D Dalek Dave

            A Colonel? He has come a Fair Way.

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            cptKoala
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            Hmm... Birdy and colonel... Why am I thinking of Michael Caine in 'The Eagle Has Landed'?

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              Hmm... Birdy and colonel... Why am I thinking of Michael Caine in 'The Eagle Has Landed'?

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              Dalek Dave
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              A film about Germans. You should never mix Germans and Golf, they always end up in the Bunker.

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              • D Dalek Dave

                A film about Germans. You should never mix Germans and Golf, they always end up in the Bunker.

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                cptKoala
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                And here's me thinking Golf was German :doh:

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                • C cptKoala

                  And here's me thinking Golf was German :doh:

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  This[^] is German. This[^] is Scottish.

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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    This[^] is German. This[^] is Scottish.

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                    cptKoala
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                    Aah yes... The second one is definitely not German as it is missing trenches... Which gently brings me to an episode of Fawlty Towers. John can sure swing his legs about in the air.

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                    • C CPallini

                      The goto statement! Freshly released Lua 5.2[^] provides it. :rolleyes:

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                      [My articles]

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                      vl2
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                      That's a very wise decision. Lua is a meta-language. Any meta-language MUST provide goto - otherwise implementing higher level constructs could be too complicated.

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                      • V vl2

                        That's a very wise decision. Lua is a meta-language. Any meta-language MUST provide goto - otherwise implementing higher level constructs could be too complicated.

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                        CPallini
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                        :confused: Are you joking? :-D

                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                        [My articles]

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                        • C CPallini

                          :confused: Are you joking? :-D

                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                          [My articles]

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                          vl2
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                          No, I'm 100% serious. A typical example: implementing a high-level eDSL for, say, generating a Packrat parser out of the PEG grammar. The most straghtforward translation scheme will involve making a function for each terminal, with a single "failure" label at the end, and all the failed sub-expressions will just goto there. But for a target language without a goto, a compilation scheme would be significantly more complicated.

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                            No, I'm 100% serious. A typical example: implementing a high-level eDSL for, say, generating a Packrat parser out of the PEG grammar. The most straghtforward translation scheme will involve making a function for each terminal, with a single "failure" label at the end, and all the failed sub-expressions will just goto there. But for a target language without a goto, a compilation scheme would be significantly more complicated.

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                            CPallini
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                            That's just a 'lack of goto' problem. I cannot understand why you define Lua 'meta-language'. Furthermore, in my opinion, it is a complete (and fairly powerful) language.

                            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                            [My articles]

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                            • C CPallini

                              The goto statement! Freshly released Lua 5.2[^] provides it. :rolleyes:

                              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                              [My articles]

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                              Mark AJA
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                              In BBC BASIC "On Error Off" is used to turn off any error trapping. In Visual Basic "On Error Goto 0" is used to turn off error trapping. But it doesn't go to line zero when an error occur it displays a message and exits the program. So the GOTO command survives but doesn't go to the line you asked it to goto.

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                              • C CPallini

                                The goto statement! Freshly released Lua 5.2[^] provides it. :rolleyes:

                                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                [My articles]

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                On Error Go To Bed :)

                                It's an OO world.

                                public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
                                public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
                                }

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                                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                  On Error Go To Bed :)

                                  It's an OO world.

                                  public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
                                  public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
                                  }

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                                  CPallini
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                                  public class Naerling : Person{
                                  public void DoWork(){ throw Unknown(); }
                                  }

                                  FFY. :)

                                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                  [My articles]

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                                    public class Naerling : Person{
                                    public void DoWork(){ throw Unknown(); }
                                    }

                                    FFY. :)

                                    If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                    This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                    [My articles]

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                                    Sander Rossel
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                                    Unknown is no function or property I implement. Though I am lazy I still want to compile ;)

                                    It's an OO world.

                                    public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
                                    public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
                                    }

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                                    • C CPallini

                                      The goto statement! Freshly released Lua 5.2[^] provides it. :rolleyes:

                                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                      This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                      [My articles]

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      It's not unlike the double-negative in English -- it's only bad when you use it wrongly.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        It's not unlike the double-negative in English -- it's only bad when you use it wrongly.

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        CPallini
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                                        You may say the same for (say) threads, still... :)

                                        If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                        This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                        [My articles]

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                                        • C CPallini

                                          That's just a 'lack of goto' problem. I cannot understand why you define Lua 'meta-language'. Furthermore, in my opinion, it is a complete (and fairly powerful) language.

                                          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                          This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                          [My articles]

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                                          vl2
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                                          1. There is an eval - so, it is a meta-language, at least to the same extend as JavaScript 2) I use http://metalua.luaforge.net/[^] which is a "true" meta-language It is very powerful indeed. But the languages lacking the goto statement are not very good compilation targets.
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