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    Henry Minute
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    BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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      BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      Too many years on the continent means I have difficulty now of thinking imperial. Now thinking Emperial, that's a POP.


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        BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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        CPallini
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        Don't bother anymore: start thinking in hū, sī and háo. :)

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          BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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          Lost User
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          I know how much I weigh in stone, how tall I am in feet and inches, my allotment is 50 foot by 20 foot, the beds I marked out are 9 foot by 4 or 5 foot. I drive in miles per hour (obviously), I drink pints, I buy milk by the litre (or 2), and sugar by the kilo - but that is because that is how they are packaged. I think I estimate distance mentally in yards, feet and inches. I can switch between the two quite happily though, most things you by these days are metric, although many are both. When cooking I don't measure anything, I use an amount that I need, calculated visually with no thought to its quantity or units.

          Henry Minute wrote:

          I suspect that younger members,

          I'm 37, when the hell did that happen, guess I'm not a younger member.

          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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            BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

            Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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            Dario Solera
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            I obviously think in metric (I'm Italian), but funnily I often find myself thinking in English (it's not my mother language).

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            • H Henry Minute

              BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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              Corporal Agarn
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              Be like NASA and mix it up. Then you can blame problems on it. mix up[^] (Note this was the first hit on SearchGeek)

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              • H Henry Minute

                BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                I'm about 50-50. Pool water temperature in F, air temperature in C. Personal weight in pound, height in meter (and cm). food stuff, mostly in metric, except the beer pint or butter (1 pound butter) Distance in km, but ski resort heights ( dénivellation) in feet (looks better on paper) Floor plan area in squera-feet (don't think I ever went bigger than that). Construction measurements in metric (can't stand the weird imperial fractions) ...

                Watched code never compiles.

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                  BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  What is 'metric'? I only know of Imperial. :)

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                  • H Henry Minute

                    BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    I use Imperial for medium distance (1/2 mile up to a couple of thousand miles), then kilometers for large scale, and metres for short scale. When I am measuring, I use mm by preference, unless I want higher accuracy, in which case I switch back to imperial (my imperial stuff measures in 32ths and 64ths, which my metric stuff can't get near - 1mm or 1/2mm is as small as it goes). Except my height - that's Imperial. In fluids, I think of pints of milk and beer, but all cooking liquids are millilitres. The car gets filled with litres, but I work out consumption in MPG. In weights, I use stones for myself, kilos for the cat and grammes for everything else! I am 28 in Mars years.

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                      I'm about 50-50. Pool water temperature in F, air temperature in C. Personal weight in pound, height in meter (and cm). food stuff, mostly in metric, except the beer pint or butter (1 pound butter) Distance in km, but ski resort heights ( dénivellation) in feet (looks better on paper) Floor plan area in squera-feet (don't think I ever went bigger than that). Construction measurements in metric (can't stand the weird imperial fractions) ...

                      Watched code never compiles.

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                      Maximilien wrote:

                      Pool water temperature in F, air temperature in C.

                      It is said the English use Fahrenheit for warm temperatures and Celsius / Centigrade for cold ones. "It's 97 degrees today". "It's -2 out there". That sort of thing. I think I am exclusively on the C scale.

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                      • H Henry Minute

                        BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

                        Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                        Metric is a European think. Nothing to bother about for the English.

                        regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                          BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                          Dalek Dave
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                          Strangely enough I was discussing this in the pub the other day. I think imperial for speeds and distance, buy foodstuffs in imperial, drink in imperial and know my height and weight in imperial. This is because we live in an imperial universe, there is no metric universe. 365 days a year, 12 months, 360 degrees etc. I remember old money, (Just about, I must be one of the youngest people who can remember spending it). 12 pennies to the shilling, 20 shillings to the pound.

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                            Metric is a European think. Nothing to bother about for the English.

                            regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            Invented by unemployed french hairdressers after the revolution.

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                              Metric is a European think. Nothing to bother about for the English.

                              regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                              OriginalGriff
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                              Um. There are only three countries in the world who have not officially adopted the metric system: Burma, Liberia and the United States

                              Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                Strangely enough I was discussing this in the pub the other day. I think imperial for speeds and distance, buy foodstuffs in imperial, drink in imperial and know my height and weight in imperial. This is because we live in an imperial universe, there is no metric universe. 365 days a year, 12 months, 360 degrees etc. I remember old money, (Just about, I must be one of the youngest people who can remember spending it). 12 pennies to the shilling, 20 shillings to the pound.

                                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] Trolls[^]

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                                OriginalGriff
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                                What happened to the Groat! Or the Farthing? Guinea? Crown? Did you forget them? :laugh:

                                Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                  BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

                                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                                  W Balboos GHB
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                                  Metric, powers of ten, is a result of having ten fingers to count on. Great idea . . . until the computer age. Why you ask? And rightly so. I must needs give you an example: Let's start with the humble ounce.

                                  4 ounces = gill = 22 [00000100]    8 ounces = cup = 23 [00001000]   16 ounces = pint* = 24 [00010000]   32 ounces = quart = 25 [00100000]  128 ounces = gallon = 27 [10000000] Similarly, quarts, pecks, and bushels are powers of 2.

                                  Clearly a perfect match for computer logic, using int's instead of floats, and thereby exact (& faster) calculations. Obviously, it's long past overdue that we change back. * A beloved Unit to many, particularly after a long day's work.

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                                    Metric, powers of ten, is a result of having ten fingers to count on. Great idea . . . until the computer age. Why you ask? And rightly so. I must needs give you an example: Let's start with the humble ounce.

                                    4 ounces = gill = 22 [00000100]    8 ounces = cup = 23 [00001000]   16 ounces = pint* = 24 [00010000]   32 ounces = quart = 25 [00100000]  128 ounces = gallon = 27 [10000000] Similarly, quarts, pecks, and bushels are powers of 2.

                                    Clearly a perfect match for computer logic, using int's instead of floats, and thereby exact (& faster) calculations. Obviously, it's long past overdue that we change back. * A beloved Unit to many, particularly after a long day's work.

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    Ok, however this:

                                    W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                    Clearly a perfect match for computer logic, using int's instead of floats, and thereby exact (& faster) calculations.

                                    makes no sense. The float is not for metric (but you can use it for that), and definitely not for decimal, which it sucks at. It actually implements the system you describe there, but extended to much smaller and much higher exponents, and with places after the binary mark (like the decimal mark, only for binary). Besides, floats aren't much slower these days (ok fp addition is slower), in fact for division they're faster.

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                                      Invented by unemployed french hairdressers after the revolution.

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                                      Not so: the metric system was proposed in 1670 by Gabriel Mouton. The revolution was over one hundred years later. In fact, the metrification of France was well underway when the Revolution began. Two men were busy measuring the meter by calculating the length of the Paris meridian when the Revolution started. There is a very good book on this journey: The Measure of All Things[^] - worth a read.

                                      Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                        Um. There are only three countries in the world who have not officially adopted the metric system: Burma, Liberia and the United States

                                        Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                                        Dario Solera
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                                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                                        Burma, Liberia and the United States

                                        Is that for real? I mean, just three?

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                                        • H Henry Minute

                                          BBC News story[^]. I'm a bit of a mixed bag on this, like so much of my life (e.g. In cricket I bowl left-handed but bat right-handed). I tend to purchase in imperial but when cooking something such as a cake I work in metric units. I suspect that younger members, at least, would be mostly, if not entirely, metric. Except, of course, for the good old Pint of Pig's.

                                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.

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                                          A real mixture of the two. I've only been educated in metric but think a lot in Imperial - people's heights and weights in metric mean nothing to me.

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