Student loans
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I just want to get a pulse on student loans. How many of you in the USA have huge student loans and are struggling to pay them? For those of you NOT in the USA, how do you pay for higher education. Well, I should say to anyone who has student debt in the USA and is in trouble there might be help on the way. You can go to forgivestudentloandebt dot com and find the facebook link and join. It might help you or give you some insight if you don't understand the tuition issues students now face.
I was lucky enough to be educated in the UK before tuition fees, when students got GIVEN money to go to university, and have reliable vacation work at my dad's company. So I escaped with minimal debt. My wife, on the other hand, has a reasonably large student loan debt, which we left in the UK when we emigrated (in the UK you only have to pay back your loan if you live and work in the UK and earn more than (I think) 15000GBP pa).
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My advice, don't pick a career where you will end up struggling to repay the loan. All mine are paid off. :-D
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mindserve wrote:
Doctors don't make that kind of money..not new ones anyway.
I agree. I guess once they are into their 30s, that's when they start hitting the 200K+ mark. Although, most of them know this will happen and so start spending lavishly early on.
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Well, doctors also get a lot of benefits that people don't know about. For example, I live in a nice place where there's a lot of doctors in my building (there's a hospital near by)... the hospital actually gives them a "housing allowance"! ...and it's pretty high...
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My co-worker send his kid to the state college. Tuition+Room > $30,000/yr - so much for reasonably priced public school.
Not all are that high though (will vary A LOT!)... plus if you can get grants and scholarships, it cuts back on the out-of-pocket costs.
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I had a job to pay for my schooling in the USA. In-State tuition is really very affordable. Housing is what gets you but we all have to pay that anyway. Yes, yes, I admit, I went to a State College.
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I went to a state college too, tuition was pretty affordable (relatively)... and now I make a very good living... so it certainly didn't lead me to earn any less than someone at MIT (for example).
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My co-worker send his kid to the state college. Tuition+Room > $30,000/yr - so much for reasonably priced public school.
Reasonable is a relative term, compared to an ivy league school it seems more reasonable. No it’s not inexpensive to be sure. I never got to go through a four year program, rather it’s been little by little when I could afford it or when my job helped with the tuition. Each time I went back, I ended up with a promotion or a better position. Slow yes, do I have any regrets, absolutely not! The fact is, it is a neccesary evil, try getting anywhere without any education.
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I just want to get a pulse on student loans. How many of you in the USA have huge student loans and are struggling to pay them? For those of you NOT in the USA, how do you pay for higher education. Well, I should say to anyone who has student debt in the USA and is in trouble there might be help on the way. You can go to forgivestudentloandebt dot com and find the facebook link and join. It might help you or give you some insight if you don't understand the tuition issues students now face.
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Not all are that high though (will vary A LOT!)... plus if you can get grants and scholarships, it cuts back on the out-of-pocket costs.
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I just want to get a pulse on student loans. How many of you in the USA have huge student loans and are struggling to pay them? For those of you NOT in the USA, how do you pay for higher education. Well, I should say to anyone who has student debt in the USA and is in trouble there might be help on the way. You can go to forgivestudentloandebt dot com and find the facebook link and join. It might help you or give you some insight if you don't understand the tuition issues students now face.
mindserve wrote:
For those of you NOT in the USA, how do you pay for higher education.
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It is regular UC college (university of CA). And there is very little financial assistance for "middle class", BTW...
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I just want to get a pulse on student loans. How many of you in the USA have huge student loans and are struggling to pay them? For those of you NOT in the USA, how do you pay for higher education. Well, I should say to anyone who has student debt in the USA and is in trouble there might be help on the way. You can go to forgivestudentloandebt dot com and find the facebook link and join. It might help you or give you some insight if you don't understand the tuition issues students now face.
I started the university in Bulgaria in the middle 90s. At this time there was no way to pay for your education (excepts you are a foreign student). All high education were fully funded from the state and the only way to get there was to beat the other candidates on the entrance examination and to have a really high score in your high school grades. My chosen specialty “computer science and basic economy” was very popular so to have any chance I had to have the maximum from the high school score plus almost the maximum score in the entrance math test. There were about 200 candidates for every position and the math test was so difficult that most of the high school math teachers wouldn’t be able to solve all the problems in the test. I tried after the high school and I failed miserably. Then I was listed in the army for a year and a half, and after I retired from the army I learned math six months for the test and scored eight from all candidates with almost perfect result on the exam.
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It is regular UC college (university of CA). And there is very little financial assistance for "middle class", BTW...
gstolarov wrote:
university of CA
Well there's the problem...
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Reasonable is a relative term, compared to an ivy league school it seems more reasonable. No it’s not inexpensive to be sure. I never got to go through a four year program, rather it’s been little by little when I could afford it or when my job helped with the tuition. Each time I went back, I ended up with a promotion or a better position. Slow yes, do I have any regrets, absolutely not! The fact is, it is a neccesary evil, try getting anywhere without any education.
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S Houghtelin wrote:
Reasonable is a relative term, compared to an ivy league school it seems more reasonable.
That's true... MIT charges about $21K per semester...
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S Houghtelin wrote:
Reasonable is a relative term, compared to an ivy league school it seems more reasonable.
That's true... MIT charges about $21K per semester...
We have a couple of MIT grads where I work, they also get paid a great deal more than I, they can afford to repay their loans. :laugh:
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I just want to get a pulse on student loans. How many of you in the USA have huge student loans and are struggling to pay them? For those of you NOT in the USA, how do you pay for higher education. Well, I should say to anyone who has student debt in the USA and is in trouble there might be help on the way. You can go to forgivestudentloandebt dot com and find the facebook link and join. It might help you or give you some insight if you don't understand the tuition issues students now face.
We have interest free student loans here in NZ... i am 30+ and still have one because there is no incentive to pay it off any faster which is becoming problematic at a macro scale. On the other hand our university fees are not as high compared to a lot of other places around i hear. i think i remember paying from $900->$1400 (NZD) per paper i took.
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I think the USA will be the next 3rd world country. 1/2 of people in the US live in poverty. At least according to a recent census. Student loan debt in this country exceeds credit card debt. It's now at 1 trillion dollars.
Dude - the poverty rate in the US is ~~15%. A significant portion of that is due to divorce. Even then, you will find "poverty stricken" families in the US with their iphones, flatscreen TVS, two cars. Sure, they may not be nice cars, but our definition of poverty has no relation to the real term.
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I'm not "struggling" to pay them, but I graduated with something like $25K in student loans (when I was 21). I'm on the graduated repayment plan, so the amount I pay each month increases something like every 2 years. That means my monthly payment will grow over time, but so will my salary. Once my car is paid off (in about a year), I should be able to start paying off my debts faster than the minimum amount required. I expect I'll have all my debts (student loans, car, credit cards, credit lines) paid off by the time I'm 31 (perhaps sooner, depending on how my salary changes).
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I expect I'll have all my debts (student loans, car, credit cards, credit lines) paid off by the time I'm 31 (perhaps sooner, depending on how my salary changes).
You do realize that your car will eventually break and you will most likely buy a new one... with a new loan. And prior to buying a new one you will think, well I can't afford a new car right now so just put it on the card... Yep put that on the card too. Yeah that too. :doh: Its maxed again :wtf: :^) It never ends. Equity type loans (e.g. house) do though in a way. But then again you may just trade in for a bigger better one.
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Well, doctors also get a lot of benefits that people don't know about. For example, I live in a nice place where there's a lot of doctors in my building (there's a hospital near by)... the hospital actually gives them a "housing allowance"! ...and it's pretty high...
Also, their medical benefits are phenomenal (there's a surprise). No co-pay and 100% coverage for the entire family (spouse/kids).
Regards, Nish
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Dude - the poverty rate in the US is ~~15%. A significant portion of that is due to divorce. Even then, you will find "poverty stricken" families in the US with their iphones, flatscreen TVS, two cars. Sure, they may not be nice cars, but our definition of poverty has no relation to the real term.
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The poverty rate in the USA according to a recent census put's it more at one out of two. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gkc3uqGuPnGfO90dElARcCQvgTvA?docId=9576d6a6343c46b1abbd0184a9244305 They might not want you to see the facts but having a TV doesn't mean you are not poor.