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  • K KaRl

    About some Texan schools pretending to do sexual education[^]


    Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop

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    I read the subject and thought you'd gone in for cosmetic surgery. :eek: I still reckon they should just use field trips to the local strip club and touring phone booths instead of sex ed - at least that prepares them for what really lies ahead of them.


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      I read the subject and thought you'd gone in for cosmetic surgery. :eek: I still reckon they should just use field trips to the local strip club and touring phone booths instead of sex ed - at least that prepares them for what really lies ahead of them.


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      KaRl
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      Nobody will get it, I presume. It's a reminiscence of a popular french rock song of the 90's, "Le plastique, c'est fantastique"[^] (very approximatively translated by google here[^], but you should get the general meaning :))


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      • K KaRl

        About some Texan schools pretending to do sexual education[^]


        Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop

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        Michael A Barnhart
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        Just one more article that finds some uniformed people to quote, to missrepresent what the issues are. Typical journalizim. "I will find a new sig someday."

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          Just one more article that finds some uniformed people to quote, to missrepresent what the issues are. Typical journalizim. "I will find a new sig someday."

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          KaRl
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          What are in your opinion the real issues ? :confused:


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            I read the subject and thought you'd gone in for cosmetic surgery. :eek: I still reckon they should just use field trips to the local strip club and touring phone booths instead of sex ed - at least that prepares them for what really lies ahead of them.


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            David Wulff wrote: I still reckon they should just use field trips to the local strip club and touring phone booths instead of sex ed - at least that prepares them for what really lies ahead of them. I dunno... abstinence training seems to be a pretty accurate look at what really lies ahead. :rolleyes: Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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            • K KaRl

              Nobody will get it, I presume. It's a reminiscence of a popular french rock song of the 90's, "Le plastique, c'est fantastique"[^] (very approximatively translated by google here[^], but you should get the general meaning :))


              Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop

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              "I'm a barbie girl in a barbie world life is plastic it's fantastic" is probably known to a wider audience ;)


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                "I'm a barbie girl in a barbie world life is plastic it's fantastic" is probably known to a wider audience ;)


                Those who not hear the music think the dancers are mad.  [sighist] [Agile Programming]

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                :cool:, it works too :)


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                  David Wulff wrote: I still reckon they should just use field trips to the local strip club and touring phone booths instead of sex ed - at least that prepares them for what really lies ahead of them. I dunno... abstinence training seems to be a pretty accurate look at what really lies ahead. :rolleyes: Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                  Paul Riley wrote: Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows Man, this one really rocks! :-D


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                    Paul Riley wrote: Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows Man, this one really rocks! :-D


                    Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop

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                    Doesn't it? Very funny video too. Off the top of my head, I'd say Songs for the Deaf and Tori Amos's Scarlett's Walk are my favourite CDs from last year. Trying to pick one from the other is like comparing apples and oranges, it's a mood thing. To be fair, for some reason that I can't figure out, I keep forgetting to buy Foo Fighters' One By One, which from what I've heard at least matches up to Songs for... In fact, you know what? Think I might go and order that now while it's on my mind. :-D Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                      David Wulff wrote: I still reckon they should just use field trips to the local strip club and touring phone booths instead of sex ed - at least that prepares them for what really lies ahead of them. I dunno... abstinence training seems to be a pretty accurate look at what really lies ahead. :rolleyes: Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                      Well judging by the two in five of them who will probably have children before they leave high school, that seems not to be the case. :((


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                        Doesn't it? Very funny video too. Off the top of my head, I'd say Songs for the Deaf and Tori Amos's Scarlett's Walk are my favourite CDs from last year. Trying to pick one from the other is like comparing apples and oranges, it's a mood thing. To be fair, for some reason that I can't figure out, I keep forgetting to buy Foo Fighters' One By One, which from what I've heard at least matches up to Songs for... In fact, you know what? Think I might go and order that now while it's on my mind. :-D Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                        Paul Riley wrote: Off the top of my head, I'd say Songs for the Deaf and Tori Amos's Scarlett's Walk are my favourite CDs from last year I haven't heard the latter, but QOTSA are what I'd call propper hard rock music - none of this crap modern stuff the school kids listen to that plagues our radio waves all day (and night). They are one of the best - topped only (IMHO) by Black Sabbath. Says a lot for modern rock music doesn't it. :| Foo Fighters' One By One is great is you're feeling a little down in the dumps or just downright depressed. I dunno, the entire album just kind of sums up my daily mood at the moment which is why they've scored a permanent slot in my sig space. Does it match up to QOTSA and SFTD? No - not in my opinion, but it is still top notch music.


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                          Well judging by the two in five of them who will probably have children before they leave high school, that seems not to be the case. :((


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                          You're kidding, right? Once they have kids, there'll definitely be no sex. :-D Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                            Paul Riley wrote: Off the top of my head, I'd say Songs for the Deaf and Tori Amos's Scarlett's Walk are my favourite CDs from last year I haven't heard the latter, but QOTSA are what I'd call propper hard rock music - none of this crap modern stuff the school kids listen to that plagues our radio waves all day (and night). They are one of the best - topped only (IMHO) by Black Sabbath. Says a lot for modern rock music doesn't it. :| Foo Fighters' One By One is great is you're feeling a little down in the dumps or just downright depressed. I dunno, the entire album just kind of sums up my daily mood at the moment which is why they've scored a permanent slot in my sig space. Does it match up to QOTSA and SFTD? No - not in my opinion, but it is still top notch music.


                            David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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                            David Wulff wrote: I haven't heard the latter, but QOTSA are what I'd call propper hard rock music - none of this crap modern stuff the school kids listen to that plagues our radio waves all day (and night). Agreed. Not that I'm completely averse to the modern "crap", but that's more background while I'm working stuff. QOTSA, FF, Creed, Staind and Muse are pretty much the only two "modern" rock bands I listen to. David Wulff wrote: They are one of the best - topped only (IMHO) by Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath rock, Blizzard of Ozz too (gotta love that Randy Rhodes). Still listen to a lot of Led Zep, Metallica, Nine Inch Nails and Nirvana. Other than that, I go for certain progressive bands from all eras, from Beatles and Floyd (inc. Roger Waters solo) to Marillion, Genesis (inc. Peter Gabrial solo) and Dream Theatre. And then there's the female soloists: Tori, Cranberries, Alanis, Jewel, Jane Siberry, even No Doubt when the mood hits me. And the occasional touch of Brit Pop, especially the first Longpigs CD. Radiohead and REM tend to hit my playlist for months on end and then disappear for as long, Eminem too. Enigma, Clannad, All About Eve, Mike Oldfield and the like for severe chillout purposes; Gorillaz and Tenacious D for amusement value. Red Hot Chili Peppers, Tom Petty, Tom Waits... I could go on for ever. You can tell I like to have something for every mood. Anyway, I've ordered One By One now :-D. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                              About some Texan schools pretending to do sexual education[^]


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                              For me this article is not about condoms or sex or teenagers or AIDS. This article is about how dangerous people who refuse to think can be to our society. It's about how dangerous any ideology that is teaching people not to think is for our lives and for the lives of our children. If there is one thing that I am prejudiced against - I am prejudiced against people who refuse to think...

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                                What are in your opinion the real issues ? :confused:


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                                The conservative stance is not that condoms do not help prevent disease but when the school readily marketed them the promiscuity (and disease) rapidly escalated, as it is now ok to do so. Those who wish to attack the religious (conservative) viewpoint have only found a few to quote to distort what the position really is and to make the conservative side look stupid. The number one item that will make me totally disrespect someone is when they can only use the above tactic (misrepresentation) to sell their position. Or if you can only justify your opinion by totally misrepresenting what the other sides opinion is, then you likely have nothing that is actually worth justifying in the first place. If you can justify your opinion while looking for the best the other side has to offer, than you can actually stand by it and IMO are worth while if I agree or not. "I will find a new sig someday."

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                                  For me this article is not about condoms or sex or teenagers or AIDS. This article is about how dangerous people who refuse to think can be to our society. It's about how dangerous any ideology that is teaching people not to think is for our lives and for the lives of our children. If there is one thing that I am prejudiced against - I am prejudiced against people who refuse to think...

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                                  Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                  Konstantin Vasserman wrote: If there is one thing that I am prejudiced against - I am prejudiced against people who refuse to think... I'll second that! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                    David Wulff wrote: I haven't heard the latter, but QOTSA are what I'd call propper hard rock music - none of this crap modern stuff the school kids listen to that plagues our radio waves all day (and night). Agreed. Not that I'm completely averse to the modern "crap", but that's more background while I'm working stuff. QOTSA, FF, Creed, Staind and Muse are pretty much the only two "modern" rock bands I listen to. David Wulff wrote: They are one of the best - topped only (IMHO) by Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath rock, Blizzard of Ozz too (gotta love that Randy Rhodes). Still listen to a lot of Led Zep, Metallica, Nine Inch Nails and Nirvana. Other than that, I go for certain progressive bands from all eras, from Beatles and Floyd (inc. Roger Waters solo) to Marillion, Genesis (inc. Peter Gabrial solo) and Dream Theatre. And then there's the female soloists: Tori, Cranberries, Alanis, Jewel, Jane Siberry, even No Doubt when the mood hits me. And the occasional touch of Brit Pop, especially the first Longpigs CD. Radiohead and REM tend to hit my playlist for months on end and then disappear for as long, Eminem too. Enigma, Clannad, All About Eve, Mike Oldfield and the like for severe chillout purposes; Gorillaz and Tenacious D for amusement value. Red Hot Chili Peppers, Tom Petty, Tom Waits... I could go on for ever. You can tell I like to have something for every mood. Anyway, I've ordered One By One now :-D. Paul Pleasently caving in, I come undone - Queens of the Stone Age, No One Knows

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                                    Paul Riley wrote: QOTSA, FF, Creed, Staind and Muse are pretty much the only two "modern" rock bands I listen to Stopping discovering new things is the first step to Death :)


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                                      Konstantin Vasserman wrote: If there is one thing that I am prejudiced against - I am prejudiced against people who refuse to think... I'll second that! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                      Room for a third? :-O


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                                        Room for a third? :-O


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                                        Always Dave. ;) Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                          The conservative stance is not that condoms do not help prevent disease but when the school readily marketed them the promiscuity (and disease) rapidly escalated, as it is now ok to do so. Those who wish to attack the religious (conservative) viewpoint have only found a few to quote to distort what the position really is and to make the conservative side look stupid. The number one item that will make me totally disrespect someone is when they can only use the above tactic (misrepresentation) to sell their position. Or if you can only justify your opinion by totally misrepresenting what the other sides opinion is, then you likely have nothing that is actually worth justifying in the first place. If you can justify your opinion while looking for the best the other side has to offer, than you can actually stand by it and IMO are worth while if I agree or not. "I will find a new sig someday."

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                                          Michael A. Barnhart wrote: The conservative stance is not that condoms do not help prevent disease but when the school readily marketed them the promiscuity (and disease) rapidly escalated, as it is now ok to do so. Do you seriously believe that students only start having sex when teachers at school talk about it? I'm pushing 20 years since I was in middle high school and I know my interest in sex was on the boil well before any talk of it at school. When they did start it didn't change my thoughts or attitude or my luck. But I did get some before school finished and I still say that would have happened sex ed or not. It all seems to be a storm in a teacup. If parents haven't educated their kids on what sex is all about and don't trust them when their old enough to physically get into it then it's too damn late. Not talking about condoms isn't going to fix anything. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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