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    India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

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      India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

      Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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      How can you say Top Gear isn't journalism? I always thought that nice Mr Goffey[^] gave very good car reviews. [Vilmos reviews his tongue from his cheek]


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        India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

        Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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        ChrisElston wrote:

        Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program?

        Surely they are. But if the only humorous thing they can think of is mocking on another countries’ problems, they may think of finding another job.

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          India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

          Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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          ChrisElston wrote:

          "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary"

          I think it technically is. The old Top Gear (with actucal reviews of cars and motoring topics) was and, and due to the way the BBC works, the current production is a continuation of that. If what they said in their trip to the US was true, they apply for permission to film under the basis of being a documentary. Another example of this BBC wierdness was "The Young Ones". Sitcom? Wrong. It was classed as a variety show to get funding. That is why they had the music bit in the middle, to justify that status.

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            India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

            Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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            Sometimes I miss the non-PC days. Where you could say loudly and proudly, "If you don't like it... DON'T WATCH IT!" if enough people don't watch it, it gets pulled off the air. Times like these make me want to invent new insults to lump these people into. Can you imagine if Alice Cooper or Ozzy had to be politically correct in their music? It would have sucked. Just like the diplomat complaining.

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              ChrisElston wrote:

              Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program?

              Surely they are. But if the only humorous thing they can think of is mocking on another countries’ problems, they may think of finding another job.

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              I don't think they did mock India's problems, they mostly mock themselves / each other. Failing spectacularly when trying to improve on how things are done. The butt of the jokes is always the 3 idiots rather than the country they are in, which tends to get shown in a quite positive light.

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                India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

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                Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than a self-entertainment program? Fixed for you

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                  India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

                  Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                  Screw anyone who complains about things they haven't seen. It was like when the Muslims went on the rampage over the Danish cartoons. They hadn't seen them, very few people had seen them, and even if they had seen them they took over a year to angry about them. It is a bit like the 300 complainants to the BBC over the nudity in Sherlock Holmes (of which there was none). These are professional agitators. I like Clarkson et al, they don't care and they just get on with their lives free from the PC bollocks that tries to say you have the right not to be offended. Rubbish, I have the freedom to disagree with everything and to be offended, and the RIGHT to respond to that offense. Carry on Top Gear, go for the Liberal Leftie Animal Rights Tree Hugging Poofs and Communist Coalition and Rainbow Alliance, I am sure they would write in!

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                    India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

                    Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.

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                    The programme was replete with cheap jibes, tasteless humour and lacked cultural sensitivity that we expect from the BBC.

                    :wtf: Clearly, they've never seen the show before! :laugh:

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                      Screw anyone who complains about things they haven't seen. It was like when the Muslims went on the rampage over the Danish cartoons. They hadn't seen them, very few people had seen them, and even if they had seen them they took over a year to angry about them. It is a bit like the 300 complainants to the BBC over the nudity in Sherlock Holmes (of which there was none). These are professional agitators. I like Clarkson et al, they don't care and they just get on with their lives free from the PC bollocks that tries to say you have the right not to be offended. Rubbish, I have the freedom to disagree with everything and to be offended, and the RIGHT to respond to that offense. Carry on Top Gear, go for the Liberal Leftie Animal Rights Tree Hugging Poofs and Communist Coalition and Rainbow Alliance, I am sure they would write in!

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                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      It is a bit like the 300 complainants to the BBC over the nudity in Sherlock Holmes (of which there was none).

                      I was about to ask where it was! We have watched the first season (second hasn't landed over here yet that I know of). If there was any that was taken out before we saw it, I would have had to be seriously annoyed. Sidenote, can't wait to see him as the villian in the new Star Trek movie or hear him as Smaug.

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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        It is a bit like the 300 complainants to the BBC over the nudity in Sherlock Holmes (of which there was none).

                        I was about to ask where it was! We have watched the first season (second hasn't landed over here yet that I know of). If there was any that was taken out before we saw it, I would have had to be seriously annoyed. Sidenote, can't wait to see him as the villian in the new Star Trek movie or hear him as Smaug.

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                        Not that I have seen it, but the reports I have seen said a woman's naked back was shown. Now I do appreciate a shapely shoulder on a woman, especially one unencumbered by clothing, but I fail to see how the sight of one could offend anyone.

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                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                          It is a bit like the 300 complainants to the BBC over the nudity in Sherlock Holmes (of which there was none).

                          I was about to ask where it was! We have watched the first season (second hasn't landed over here yet that I know of). If there was any that was taken out before we saw it, I would have had to be seriously annoyed. Sidenote, can't wait to see him as the villian in the new Star Trek movie or hear him as Smaug.

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                          Opening episode of series 2 has Irene Adler enter a room naked. But by clever camera angles/posture you do not see anything that you wouldn't see by a pool or on a beach, there wasn't so much as a stray nipple. 300 Complaints! Puritans! I for one was hoping for a glimpse, she was a beautiful woman.

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                            India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

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                            ChrisElston wrote:

                            Can this pass as acceptable journalism?

                            Wasn't this show all about cars? When did they shift to politics and journalism?

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                              I don't think they did mock India's problems, they mostly mock themselves / each other. Failing spectacularly when trying to improve on how things are done. The butt of the jokes is always the 3 idiots rather than the country they are in, which tends to get shown in a quite positive light.

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                              I know this, I used to watch the show before it started going downhill. The problem is elsewhere. I’ll try to give you an example. This is what I think: “Okay, who really cares. It wasn’t neither so offensive nor so far from the truth. Some entertainment program and their opinion. Oh, and production happens to be made in UK, this guys like to joke with everything. In a matter of fact in my country have far more really offensive shows, they just are not so popular so nobody gives a damn.” This is what many people in the “offended” countries will think: “Arrogant English bastards! Why they not stay on their small soaked island and fix their own problems!” See, it’s like a boomerang.

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                                Screw anyone who complains about things they haven't seen. It was like when the Muslims went on the rampage over the Danish cartoons. They hadn't seen them, very few people had seen them, and even if they had seen them they took over a year to angry about them. It is a bit like the 300 complainants to the BBC over the nudity in Sherlock Holmes (of which there was none). These are professional agitators. I like Clarkson et al, they don't care and they just get on with their lives free from the PC bollocks that tries to say you have the right not to be offended. Rubbish, I have the freedom to disagree with everything and to be offended, and the RIGHT to respond to that offense. Carry on Top Gear, go for the Liberal Leftie Animal Rights Tree Hugging Poofs and Communist Coalition and Rainbow Alliance, I am sure they would write in!

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                                Dalek Dave wrote:

                                nudity in Sherlock Holmes (of which there was none).

                                There most certainly was, you just didn't get to see anything interesting. The back of a nude woman might be relatively boring but it's still nudity.

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                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  nudity in Sherlock Holmes (of which there was none).

                                  There most certainly was, you just didn't get to see anything interesting. The back of a nude woman might be relatively boring but it's still nudity.

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                                  No, are you telling me a woman with a backless dress is nude? Is someones bare arms nude? She was not Nude, she wore earrings, lipstick and a smile.

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                                    No, are you telling me a woman with a backless dress is nude? Is someones bare arms nude? She was not Nude, she wore earrings, lipstick and a smile.

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                                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                                    are you telling me a woman with a backless dress is nude?

                                    I'm sure if you read my post you will see that I am not, those are your words, not mine. Irene Adler was naked; the fact that you didn't see all of her skin didn't make her less naked.

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                                      India complains about Christmas special[^] A few things stand out in the report for me. "I write this to convey our deep disappointment over the documentary" "We understand the free press – they are welcome to explain and to challenge as long as it is fair and above the belt. Can this pass as acceptable journalism?" Surely no-one on the planet still thinks that Top Gear is anything other than an entertainment program? Now if they'd complained that it was a bit crap, then they may have had a point.

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                                      Nish Nishant
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                                      It's just a minority of Indians who are upset by this. Most of them haven't heard of the show previously but got all worked up when they heard that a UK TV show mocked India.

                                      Regards, Nish


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                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        are you telling me a woman with a backless dress is nude?

                                        I'm sure if you read my post you will see that I am not, those are your words, not mine. Irene Adler was naked; the fact that you didn't see all of her skin didn't make her less naked.

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                                        Conan Doyle must be spinning in his grave.

                                        Regards, Nish


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                                          Screw anyone who complains about things they haven't seen. It was like when the Muslims went on the rampage over the Danish cartoons. They hadn't seen them, very few people had seen them, and even if they had seen them they took over a year to angry about them. It is a bit like the 300 complainants to the BBC over the nudity in Sherlock Holmes (of which there was none). These are professional agitators. I like Clarkson et al, they don't care and they just get on with their lives free from the PC bollocks that tries to say you have the right not to be offended. Rubbish, I have the freedom to disagree with everything and to be offended, and the RIGHT to respond to that offense. Carry on Top Gear, go for the Liberal Leftie Animal Rights Tree Hugging Poofs and Communist Coalition and Rainbow Alliance, I am sure they would write in!

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                                          I thought the implied nudity in the Sherlock Holmes episode was a problem because the show was pre-9PM?

                                          Regards, Nish


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