Wikipedia's blackout effort sends the wrong message.
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The fact that the black-screen-of-protest can so easily be circumvented sends out a message that I'm sure SOPA/PIPA supporters will use. Namely
"It doesn't matter if the odd site gets taken down those clever internet users will find a way to continue working."
I didn't even see the message until I deliberately turned off NoScript so that I could see what they had done. For protests of this type to be effective, they must be real. Difficult for a commercial organization to justify for money many reasons but for a Not For Profit outfit like Wiki they should have really gone dark.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Half-assed effort for Half-brained legislation.
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Half-assed effort for Half-brained legislation.
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d@nish wrote:
You are a very optimistic realistic person, aren't you?
FTFY!
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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Half-assed effort for Half-brained legislation.
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Very succinct.:thumbsup:
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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I'm a brain is half empty type.
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The fact that the black-screen-of-protest can so easily be circumvented sends out a message that I'm sure SOPA/PIPA supporters will use. Namely
"It doesn't matter if the odd site gets taken down those clever internet users will find a way to continue working."
I didn't even see the message until I deliberately turned off NoScript so that I could see what they had done. For protests of this type to be effective, they must be real. Difficult for a commercial organization to justify for money many reasons but for a Not For Profit outfit like Wiki they should have really gone dark.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Henry Minute wrote:
I didn't even see the message until I deliberately turned off NoScript
Irrelevant Geek ;P So you can get around by disabling JavaScript? This alone"Makes the internet stop working" for a bazillion of users.
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The fact that the black-screen-of-protest can so easily be circumvented sends out a message that I'm sure SOPA/PIPA supporters will use. Namely
"It doesn't matter if the odd site gets taken down those clever internet users will find a way to continue working."
I didn't even see the message until I deliberately turned off NoScript so that I could see what they had done. For protests of this type to be effective, they must be real. Difficult for a commercial organization to justify for money many reasons but for a Not For Profit outfit like Wiki they should have really gone dark.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
At least they have it circumventable. I have run up against a few pages which are entirely blacked out for this protest. Yes there is that briefest of brief seconds between the load and the "We are protesting!" page, but I'm not quite fast enough to hit escape during the millisecond required. This protest is all well and good, but some of us have WORK to get done. I propose a counter protest. Any site which has the protest up which does not make an alternative available for those of us who need to get things done, get boycotted from now until forever. :mad: Flippin idiots.
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At least they have it circumventable. I have run up against a few pages which are entirely blacked out for this protest. Yes there is that briefest of brief seconds between the load and the "We are protesting!" page, but I'm not quite fast enough to hit escape during the millisecond required. This protest is all well and good, but some of us have WORK to get done. I propose a counter protest. Any site which has the protest up which does not make an alternative available for those of us who need to get things done, get boycotted from now until forever. :mad: Flippin idiots.
RJOberg wrote:
Any site which has the protest up which does not make an alternative available for those of us who need to get things done, get boycotted from now until forever
I feel the same way about Pizza Hut.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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The fact that the black-screen-of-protest can so easily be circumvented sends out a message that I'm sure SOPA/PIPA supporters will use. Namely
"It doesn't matter if the odd site gets taken down those clever internet users will find a way to continue working."
I didn't even see the message until I deliberately turned off NoScript so that I could see what they had done. For protests of this type to be effective, they must be real. Difficult for a commercial organization to justify for money many reasons but for a Not For Profit outfit like Wiki they should have really gone dark.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
true but,, I think their(wiki's) main goal is to get the attention of non techie people(ie.. everyday facebook browsers) that may not have heard of paid attention to the whole stinkin mess.. Most techies(the people able to circumvent the measures if they pass) I'm sure are already well aware of it.
Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
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At least they have it circumventable. I have run up against a few pages which are entirely blacked out for this protest. Yes there is that briefest of brief seconds between the load and the "We are protesting!" page, but I'm not quite fast enough to hit escape during the millisecond required. This protest is all well and good, but some of us have WORK to get done. I propose a counter protest. Any site which has the protest up which does not make an alternative available for those of us who need to get things done, get boycotted from now until forever. :mad: Flippin idiots.
If you can't get your work done without access to Wikipedia, I think you need a new job.
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If you can't get your work done without access to Wikipedia, I think you need a new job.
viaducting wrote:
If you can't get your work done without access to Wikipedia, I think you need a new job.
To me its the opposite. Not that it has to be Wikipedia, but if you are not doing some sort of regular research :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: What boss? Oh you need my report.... Ahhh here ya go :suss: :rolleyes: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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If you can't get your work done without access to Wikipedia, I think you need a new job.
It isn't just wikipedia doing this. I haven't even looked at Wikipedia to be honest. I've been looking at secure (non-photocopiable) barcode generation of all things and the first three sites I tried were blacked out. Yes I would have loved to do this yesterday but I got the documentation this morning and I have a call about it later today. Just here to rant.
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It isn't just wikipedia doing this. I haven't even looked at Wikipedia to be honest. I've been looking at secure (non-photocopiable) barcode generation of all things and the first three sites I tried were blacked out. Yes I would have loved to do this yesterday but I got the documentation this morning and I have a call about it later today. Just here to rant.
RJOberg wrote:
Just here to rant.
:-D That's fine - go ahead!
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true but,, I think their(wiki's) main goal is to get the attention of non techie people(ie.. everyday facebook browsers) that may not have heard of paid attention to the whole stinkin mess.. Most techies(the people able to circumvent the measures if they pass) I'm sure are already well aware of it.
Let's face it, after Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
gavindon wrote:
Most techies(the people able to circumvent the measures if they pass) I'm sure are already well aware of it.
So true. Although almost everyone here at Purdue, techie or not, knows about SOPA, mostly due to the large front-page newspaper banners here, as well as many professors ranting on and on (and on, and on, and on, and, uh, so on) about it. One of my friends came up with something rather funny as well: "Wash out congress with SOPA!" I had to laugh when he said that.
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It isn't just wikipedia doing this. I haven't even looked at Wikipedia to be honest. I've been looking at secure (non-photocopiable) barcode generation of all things and the first three sites I tried were blacked out. Yes I would have loved to do this yesterday but I got the documentation this morning and I have a call about it later today. Just here to rant.
Sorry about that. It's a good thing I looked up Digitalis yesterday.
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The fact that the black-screen-of-protest can so easily be circumvented sends out a message that I'm sure SOPA/PIPA supporters will use. Namely
"It doesn't matter if the odd site gets taken down those clever internet users will find a way to continue working."
I didn't even see the message until I deliberately turned off NoScript so that I could see what they had done. For protests of this type to be effective, they must be real. Difficult for a commercial organization to justify for money many reasons but for a Not For Profit outfit like Wiki they should have really gone dark.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
The title of your post sends the wrong message. The US congress sends the wrong message. The corporate elite monopolists and propagandists for fascism send the wrong message. Wikipedia sent the RIGHT message, and it was a phenomenal success. Now go crawl back into your mincing, chicken-necked little hole.
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The fact that the black-screen-of-protest can so easily be circumvented sends out a message that I'm sure SOPA/PIPA supporters will use. Namely
"It doesn't matter if the odd site gets taken down those clever internet users will find a way to continue working."
I didn't even see the message until I deliberately turned off NoScript so that I could see what they had done. For protests of this type to be effective, they must be real. Difficult for a commercial organization to justify for money many reasons but for a Not For Profit outfit like Wiki they should have really gone dark.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
They could at least disabled search optimization... Annoing to waist your time going to a site that says it has info and then get a crappy message. There can always be another wikipedia... They aren't all that. I feel that they were being arrogant in there statement they were trying to make.... "We're wiki and we're so great". Maybe they forgot that it is the people that puts their time and effort into putting the knowledge up. My 2cents... Maybee little harsh and all.
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>
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The title of your post sends the wrong message. The US congress sends the wrong message. The corporate elite monopolists and propagandists for fascism send the wrong message. Wikipedia sent the RIGHT message, and it was a phenomenal success. Now go crawl back into your mincing, chicken-necked little hole.
I Concur ...
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They could at least disabled search optimization... Annoing to waist your time going to a site that says it has info and then get a crappy message. There can always be another wikipedia... They aren't all that. I feel that they were being arrogant in there statement they were trying to make.... "We're wiki and we're so great". Maybe they forgot that it is the people that puts their time and effort into putting the knowledge up. My 2cents... Maybee little harsh and all.
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." << please vote!! >>
R. Erasmus wrote:
They could at least disabled search optimization... Annoing to waist your time going to a site that says it has info and then get a crappy message. There can always be another wikipedia... They aren't all that. I feel that they were being arrogant in there statement they were trying to make.... "We're wiki and we're so great". Maybe they forgot that it is the people that puts their time and effort into putting the knowledge up.
My 2cents... Maybee little harsh and all.They did what they had to do to ensure that knowledge would STAY UP. They used the power of the internet to fight a political battle and they won. They became a voice to the people and let the issue be known. They effectively counter acted a political agenda better than any other form of media has done before. We protested without even taking to the streets. The WORLD protested one government. AND if you are here on this forum then surely you could have found a simple loophole.
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The fact that the black-screen-of-protest can so easily be circumvented sends out a message that I'm sure SOPA/PIPA supporters will use. Namely
"It doesn't matter if the odd site gets taken down those clever internet users will find a way to continue working."
I didn't even see the message until I deliberately turned off NoScript so that I could see what they had done. For protests of this type to be effective, they must be real. Difficult for a commercial organization to justify for money many reasons but for a Not For Profit outfit like Wiki they should have really gone dark.
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
I'm from the U.K. not the U.S. but we're concerned about this too as it has global implications. All this talk about disabling non U.S. websites at a DNS level could mess up the whole DNS system and damage the internet as a whole So any kind of protest is welcome as far as I am concerned. BTW How can I protest (or any non U.S. Citizen for that matter)