Internal job opening-What should I do
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Hey all CPians. I am in a bit of a dilema. I started in IT as developper, when the IT market went South, I moved into accounting. Three years ago, I went back into IT as a Financial Systems Analyst i.e. IT guy who supports the ERP and other systems. Got laid off in Jun last year but got re-employed in Aug in accounting. The move to accounting has been tough for me. Already I have had a couple of strikes with my boss. She doesn't feel I am measuring up. A new position has opened as programer analyst at my current work place. I think I may have a shot at it. Should I go behind by boss' back and apply for it? My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there. With that in mind, I do not have assurance that I will get the other position. Any ideas how to navigate this tricky situation?
I wouldn't go behind your current boss' back to do this... big mistake. You could do that if you were applying for a position outside of the company, but inside? They're bound to find out... then it may be worse if you end up having to do damage control (and what if you don't get the other job? you're stuck with them and they won't think of you as dependable).
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Applying for another internal position is not "going behind your boss' back", it is looking out for your own career, which should always be the most important thing to you. My suggestion is that your current boss need not know that you are applying for another internal position.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
I always thought that the accepted corporate etitquette was to inform your boss that you are doing this (you are not asking: you are telling). If they find out after the event they can get mad and stick the boot in: at least if you are upfront that is more honest - besides, only a coward would go behind somebodys back.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Hey all CPians. I am in a bit of a dilema. I started in IT as developper, when the IT market went South, I moved into accounting. Three years ago, I went back into IT as a Financial Systems Analyst i.e. IT guy who supports the ERP and other systems. Got laid off in Jun last year but got re-employed in Aug in accounting. The move to accounting has been tough for me. Already I have had a couple of strikes with my boss. She doesn't feel I am measuring up. A new position has opened as programer analyst at my current work place. I think I may have a shot at it. Should I go behind by boss' back and apply for it? My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there. With that in mind, I do not have assurance that I will get the other position. Any ideas how to navigate this tricky situation?
SilimSayo wrote:
My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there
This is the key information. Will she ? In our company, there is no contact made with "former" boss in case of application to an internal job. Do you have colleagues who already changed internally, and whom you could ask, how the process goes ?
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Hey all CPians. I am in a bit of a dilema. I started in IT as developper, when the IT market went South, I moved into accounting. Three years ago, I went back into IT as a Financial Systems Analyst i.e. IT guy who supports the ERP and other systems. Got laid off in Jun last year but got re-employed in Aug in accounting. The move to accounting has been tough for me. Already I have had a couple of strikes with my boss. She doesn't feel I am measuring up. A new position has opened as programer analyst at my current work place. I think I may have a shot at it. Should I go behind by boss' back and apply for it? My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there. With that in mind, I do not have assurance that I will get the other position. Any ideas how to navigate this tricky situation?
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Hey all CPians. I am in a bit of a dilema. I started in IT as developper, when the IT market went South, I moved into accounting. Three years ago, I went back into IT as a Financial Systems Analyst i.e. IT guy who supports the ERP and other systems. Got laid off in Jun last year but got re-employed in Aug in accounting. The move to accounting has been tough for me. Already I have had a couple of strikes with my boss. She doesn't feel I am measuring up. A new position has opened as programer analyst at my current work place. I think I may have a shot at it. Should I go behind by boss' back and apply for it? My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there. With that in mind, I do not have assurance that I will get the other position. Any ideas how to navigate this tricky situation?
SilimSayo wrote:
My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there.
Any boss that thinks that employees aren't considering other opportunities is a true idiot! Tell him/her. Don't ask for permission, just tell them out of professional courtesy.
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Hey all CPians. I am in a bit of a dilema. I started in IT as developper, when the IT market went South, I moved into accounting. Three years ago, I went back into IT as a Financial Systems Analyst i.e. IT guy who supports the ERP and other systems. Got laid off in Jun last year but got re-employed in Aug in accounting. The move to accounting has been tough for me. Already I have had a couple of strikes with my boss. She doesn't feel I am measuring up. A new position has opened as programer analyst at my current work place. I think I may have a shot at it. Should I go behind by boss' back and apply for it? My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there. With that in mind, I do not have assurance that I will get the other position. Any ideas how to navigate this tricky situation?
Think ahead: What is the first thing the department you are applying to will do? If your resume looks good, the next step will be to ask your boss if you are any good. You can have your boss be caught off guard and embarrassed that she did not know you applied (which will be doom for you), OR she can be ready for the call and sound confident. Your company policy almost certainly requires your boss's approval for the transfer regardless. Just tell your boss that you think you would be better at this other job and you plan on applying. If she is sharp, she will see this as an opportunity to use you as leverage in some kind of a deal with the other manager. :) Worse case, she may start looking for a replacement immediately, and you should prepare yourself to start looking for a new job outside the company. I know a company where many managers are so territorial they will refuse to approve the transfer of anyone, so the employees end up having to quit and re-hire into the other department. HR and IT have this process streamlined, with minimal paperwork, they keep their vacation days and IT just restores their old account. LOL.
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Hey all CPians. I am in a bit of a dilema. I started in IT as developper, when the IT market went South, I moved into accounting. Three years ago, I went back into IT as a Financial Systems Analyst i.e. IT guy who supports the ERP and other systems. Got laid off in Jun last year but got re-employed in Aug in accounting. The move to accounting has been tough for me. Already I have had a couple of strikes with my boss. She doesn't feel I am measuring up. A new position has opened as programer analyst at my current work place. I think I may have a shot at it. Should I go behind by boss' back and apply for it? My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there. With that in mind, I do not have assurance that I will get the other position. Any ideas how to navigate this tricky situation?
In the end no one looks out for your career except for you. True, there are some really great companies out there, but for the most part you need to look out for you. As far as telling the boss.. That is probably a good idea. Assertive is a necessary quality, and you don't want to leave them in a pinch if you get it.
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Hey all CPians. I am in a bit of a dilema. I started in IT as developper, when the IT market went South, I moved into accounting. Three years ago, I went back into IT as a Financial Systems Analyst i.e. IT guy who supports the ERP and other systems. Got laid off in Jun last year but got re-employed in Aug in accounting. The move to accounting has been tough for me. Already I have had a couple of strikes with my boss. She doesn't feel I am measuring up. A new position has opened as programer analyst at my current work place. I think I may have a shot at it. Should I go behind by boss' back and apply for it? My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there. With that in mind, I do not have assurance that I will get the other position. Any ideas how to navigate this tricky situation?
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Hey all CPians. I am in a bit of a dilema. I started in IT as developper, when the IT market went South, I moved into accounting. Three years ago, I went back into IT as a Financial Systems Analyst i.e. IT guy who supports the ERP and other systems. Got laid off in Jun last year but got re-employed in Aug in accounting. The move to accounting has been tough for me. Already I have had a couple of strikes with my boss. She doesn't feel I am measuring up. A new position has opened as programer analyst at my current work place. I think I may have a shot at it. Should I go behind by boss' back and apply for it? My main concern is that my boss will know that I am considering other opportunities out there. With that in mind, I do not have assurance that I will get the other position. Any ideas how to navigate this tricky situation?
I'd be inclined to talk to the IT hiring manager informally. Meet over a coffee one lunch time and show interest in the department, mention your background, etc.. etc. If the IT manager has their wits about them they will investigate your abilities and if there's a reasonable chance you fit the bill they should suggest that you consider applying, or at least hint that you might by suitable. At that point you can discuss it with your boss, as there's a reasonable chance of it working out. If the IT boss laughs off your interest, or directly says they're looking for someone more/less/differently qualified etc, then no harm has been done and you know where you are. Remember that internal hires are generally cheaper for the company than going externally, so you have the upper hand over your external competitors - also you know the company, the workplace, the environment, the business etc.. etc.. If you're serious about your career and have an interest in IT then hopefully you will already have your contacts in the department, even if not the relevant manager. If you don't, then ask yourself just how motivated you are... Derek TP
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I wouldn't go behind your current boss' back to do this... big mistake. You could do that if you were applying for a position outside of the company, but inside? They're bound to find out... then it may be worse if you end up having to do damage control (and what if you don't get the other job? you're stuck with them and they won't think of you as dependable).
I concur. I notified my boss about trying for a position last year year, but the position fell through due to cut-backs. However, this year, a similar position opened up in our department, and my boss notified me about it today. He indicated that if I was going to leave his team, he would rather that I still be in the same department so that he could access my experience. I would not have known about the position were it not for him.
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I concur. I notified my boss about trying for a position last year year, but the position fell through due to cut-backs. However, this year, a similar position opened up in our department, and my boss notified me about it today. He indicated that if I was going to leave his team, he would rather that I still be in the same department so that he could access my experience. I would not have known about the position were it not for him.
Yeah, a good boss will definitely see the positive side of keeping a good employee close by... after all, it's for the benefit of the company. :)