Oolong is dead!!
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Christian Graus wrote: No, you misunderstand me. I get that bit of it totally. It's the whole idea of publishing it on the web in this manner that disturbs me. It has been published on the web from the start as a way for the owner to share his love for his rabbit with the rest of the world. Publishing the end of Oolong's life was just as important. To me anyway. :~ Christian Graus wrote: Sorry, I thought you were saying she was a hottie, not that she was so unable to form human attachments that she is living her emotional life through a rabbit. I wasn't, and I totally disagree with your latter statement. :( You seem to think that love has to be associated with sex? :~ Christian Graus wrote: It's a he ? Even worse ( on the hottie front, that is ). I can't say for sure, to either part, but I have always assumed so. I may of course be wrong.
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David Wulff wrote: I wasn't, and I totally disagree with your latter statement Well, that is of course your right. David Wulff wrote: You seem to think that love has to be associated with sex? My wife says that to me all the time. It's obviously not true. I have greater love for my children than anyone else I can think of. In this case, I'm not sure what the genesis of the statement is. I certainly would never say that I felt love for someone just because they ran a website, regardless of any other factor. On that basis I presumed your turn of phrase to mean not love in a real sense, but physical attraction. David Wulff wrote: I can't say for sure, to either part, but I have always assumed so. I may of course be wrong. I thought the hands were a little masculine, so I'd tend to agree. David Wulff wrote: Publishing the end of Oolong's life was just as important. I agree that it is equally important. It just struck me as morbid and tragic. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
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:(( :(( :(( "Oolong passed away on January 7th. He was so well and cheerful as usual, but at 14:30 his condition changed suddenly, and he couldn't support himself less and less, seemed to feel dull. Then at 19:30, he softly stopped breathing in the arms of his owner and completed his eight years and five months and more several days life filled with various adventure." There are some really nice pictures of his last moments. I can't help crying - I'd been following Oolong's adventures for almost a year now. Even if you didn't know Oolong, still be sure to check out his galleries (there are hundreds of photos) starting with the oldest and working back to the more recent. He was a very, well, interesting rabbit and had plenty of downright hilarious adventures. I defy anyone who doesn't fall in love with his owner after seeing just one photo. His website[^] Bye bye. :rose:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
Cute stiff! What a remarkably patient (or sedated) coney; reminds me of a favorite hat from years back. If I'm not mistaken, 8 years is quite a long life for a bunny, is it not? Oolong seems to have lived a long, contented life, and most likely died happy. Wonderful photography, too... Paul should spend some time on the site. I've gone to find myself. If I should get back before I return, please keep me here.
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David Wulff wrote: Well if the owner had a relationship with his pet with anywhere near the level of love I had for my cat then that is totally understandable. No, you misunderstand me. I get that bit of it totally. It's the whole idea of publishing it on the web in this manner that disturbs me. David Wulff wrote: If you don't get hit by it from the first photo, then you never will. Sorry, I thought you were saying she was a hottie, not that she was so unable to form human attachments that she is living her emotional life through a rabbit. David Wulff wrote: He's Japanese - 'nuff said. It's a he ? Even worse ( on the hottie front, that is ). David Wulff wrote: Why do you return visit web sites? I would hope you enjoy them too. No, it's mostly so I can be a source of friction. :P Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002Christian Graus wrote: I can be a source of friction. a little sand in the KY will do the same...:) I've gone to find myself. If I should get back before I return, please keep me here.
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:(( :(( :(( "Oolong passed away on January 7th. He was so well and cheerful as usual, but at 14:30 his condition changed suddenly, and he couldn't support himself less and less, seemed to feel dull. Then at 19:30, he softly stopped breathing in the arms of his owner and completed his eight years and five months and more several days life filled with various adventure." There are some really nice pictures of his last moments. I can't help crying - I'd been following Oolong's adventures for almost a year now. Even if you didn't know Oolong, still be sure to check out his galleries (there are hundreds of photos) starting with the oldest and working back to the more recent. He was a very, well, interesting rabbit and had plenty of downright hilarious adventures. I defy anyone who doesn't fall in love with his owner after seeing just one photo. His website[^] Bye bye. :rose:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
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:(( :(( :(( "Oolong passed away on January 7th. He was so well and cheerful as usual, but at 14:30 his condition changed suddenly, and he couldn't support himself less and less, seemed to feel dull. Then at 19:30, he softly stopped breathing in the arms of his owner and completed his eight years and five months and more several days life filled with various adventure." There are some really nice pictures of his last moments. I can't help crying - I'd been following Oolong's adventures for almost a year now. Even if you didn't know Oolong, still be sure to check out his galleries (there are hundreds of photos) starting with the oldest and working back to the more recent. He was a very, well, interesting rabbit and had plenty of downright hilarious adventures. I defy anyone who doesn't fall in love with his owner after seeing just one photo. His website[^] Bye bye. :rose:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
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David Wulff wrote: I can't help crying Nah, boys don't cry. David Wulff wrote: There are some really nice pictures of his last moments In the dish ?
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KaЯl wrote: Nah, boys don't cry. If they learnt to the suicide rate amongst young men might be lower. Just a thought. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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KaЯl wrote: Nah, boys don't cry. If they learnt to the suicide rate amongst young men might be lower. Just a thought. Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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:(( :(( :(( "Oolong passed away on January 7th. He was so well and cheerful as usual, but at 14:30 his condition changed suddenly, and he couldn't support himself less and less, seemed to feel dull. Then at 19:30, he softly stopped breathing in the arms of his owner and completed his eight years and five months and more several days life filled with various adventure." There are some really nice pictures of his last moments. I can't help crying - I'd been following Oolong's adventures for almost a year now. Even if you didn't know Oolong, still be sure to check out his galleries (there are hundreds of photos) starting with the oldest and working back to the more recent. He was a very, well, interesting rabbit and had plenty of downright hilarious adventures. I defy anyone who doesn't fall in love with his owner after seeing just one photo. His website[^] Bye bye. :rose:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
And here I thought you were talking about TEA! Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Perhaps? I don't know if this repulsion to express this kind of feeling is genetic or comes from education :confused:
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My intuition tells me it's largely social...certainly I felt the same pressures and repression in my former life despite (as I now know) being psychologically female. There's no doubt however that the higher levels of androgens (male hormones) in males make them more prone to aggression than females. Add to that the pressure on men from society to be strong, independent and hide their feelings and their much reduced range of freedom of expression compared to women, and I can see a huge potential for problems. Personally, I blame the Victorians for turning society drab! The girls have got over it, but the guys still seem to have to obey the old stereotypes. :( Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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My intuition tells me it's largely social...certainly I felt the same pressures and repression in my former life despite (as I now know) being psychologically female. There's no doubt however that the higher levels of androgens (male hormones) in males make them more prone to aggression than females. Add to that the pressure on men from society to be strong, independent and hide their feelings and their much reduced range of freedom of expression compared to women, and I can see a huge potential for problems. Personally, I blame the Victorians for turning society drab! The girls have got over it, but the guys still seem to have to obey the old stereotypes. :( Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
"Be yourself - not what others think you should be"
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: the pressure on men from society to be strong, independent and hide their feelings I'm not sure about that. I think it's possible that it's part of our animal side. For the human species, the man in a natural environment was the hunter (to the opposite of the lions, for example). This need of strongness would come not from our humanity but from our animality. This would also explain why, having not known the Victorian aera, other europeans act globally the same. Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: the guys still seem to have to obey the old stereotypes Is it really a stereotype, or a fact? The hormonal secretion is slightly different between a man and a woman and it deeply influences the mood. Even if they could, boys would cry far less than girls ;)
Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: the pressure on men from society to be strong, independent and hide their feelings I'm not sure about that. I think it's possible that it's part of our animal side. For the human species, the man in a natural environment was the hunter (to the opposite of the lions, for example). This need of strongness would come not from our humanity but from our animality. This would also explain why, having not known the Victorian aera, other europeans act globally the same. Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: the guys still seem to have to obey the old stereotypes Is it really a stereotype, or a fact? The hormonal secretion is slightly different between a man and a woman and it deeply influences the mood. Even if they could, boys would cry far less than girls ;)
Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop
KaЯl wrote: I'm not sure about that. I think it's possible that it's part of our animal side. For the human species, the man in a natural environment was the hunter (to the opposite of the lions, for example). This need of strongness would come not from our humanity but from our animality. This would also explain why, having not known the Victorian aera, other europeans act globally the same. Of course it is...in part. But society reinforces that, and that is wrong IMHO. Not all guys thrive on it...some are stiffled by it. We're all individuals, and have a right to express ourselves in our own unique way. Society as a whole, sadly, doesn't tolerate that particularly well, and I've always felt that these days guys get a particularly raw deal in that regard. Things are slowly getting better, but we've a long way to go. Don't underestimate the influence of Victorian Society on the world. They got everywhere! KaЯl wrote: Is it really a stereotype, or a fact? The hormonal secretion is slightly different between a man and a woman and it deeply influences the mood. Even if they could, boys would cry far less than girls Of course. But remember that the hormone balance of individuals and its effect on them varies wildly. I've met guys who're far more emotional than most girls. Why should they have to conform to someone elses stereotype? Come to think about it, why should anyone have to conform to stereotypes? :mad: Screw normality...let's be ourselves. It's much more fun! :-D Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk
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