Does Experts Exchange annoy anyone else?
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
To be fair, I think they come up a lot less than they used to. I remember a time several years back when almost every search would end up with "expert sex change" in the first two or three results. Perhaps it changed when they changed their domain name?
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
I find that if you scroll all the way down the page, the member answers are there. You don't really need to be a subscriber. The caveat here is that you ask the question in Google and then navigate to the answer via the hit in the Google results page.
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It is a grotesque site filled with masturbating gimps 'Project Manager Types'.
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I find that if you scroll all the way down the page, the member answers are there. You don't really need to be a subscriber. The caveat here is that you ask the question in Google and then navigate to the answer via the hit in the Google results page.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Just ask in the Q-A forums on CP and one of SA or OriginalG will answer you in minutes, and they'll even do the research for you :-)
Regards, Nish
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
MehGerbil wrote:
"What would happen if everyone adopted this model?"
1. Work would grind to a halt 2. Vendors that you buy components for would be forced to provide better documentation 3. Someone, somewhere would get pissed off and create a "free" site 4. Companies would have to cough up the small amount of money to pay for these sites - part of doing business, IMO. 5. Consultants would simply add the fees associated with these sites to their bills 6. Contrary to item #1, life would go on That said, the concept of "productizing" information has always been a gray area. And don't get me started on patenting genes, information which we all carry around with us. Marc
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
Whole businesses have been setup specifically to take out ExpertSexChange. What is totally baffling is that, 2.5 years later, they are still around.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Whole businesses have been setup specifically to take out ExpertSexChange. What is totally baffling is that, 2.5 years later, they are still around.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
Whole businesses have been setup specifically to take out ExpertSexChange.
Do they focus on preOp or postOp?
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I've noticed that. I cannot imagine why it works that way. Even with that I ignore the material.
MehGerbil wrote:
I cannot imagine why it works that way.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Whole businesses have been setup specifically to take out ExpertSexChange.
Do they focus on preOp or postOp?
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
That is a question I don't the answer to, which ever way it goes... X|
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
Have you seen this: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/hide-sites-to-find-more-of-what-you.html[^] Works like a charm - I had (almost) managed to forget they exist!
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Have you seen this: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/hide-sites-to-find-more-of-what-you.html[^] Works like a charm - I had (almost) managed to forget they exist!
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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That is a question I don't the answer to, which ever way it goes... X|
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
OriginalGriff wrote:
That is a question I don't the answer to, which ever way it goes... X|
Yeah unless you accidentally the answer. :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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I've noticed that. I cannot imagine why it works that way. Even with that I ignore the material.
MehGerbil wrote:
I cannot imagine why it works that way.
Because it's built by experts?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
I remember when it used to be a good site.
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
I disagree. They offer a service at a charge, there's nothing wrong with that. I have a payed subscription to a news paper, I trust everything in the news paper is available elsewhere for free, so what? Just ignore what you dislike, there is enough free stuff around to waste your lifetime. :)
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
i blocked it from my Google results, years ago
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
MehGerbil wrote:
It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business.
Easy way to keep the robot race at the gates : charge for accounts.
MehGerbil wrote:
What would happen if everyone adopted this model
I don't think that would happen. There would always be people who post the information and experiences. However, if it did,...... that would .... crap, can't think of anything good. It would be terrible. I keep a lot of hard copy books/notes for reference. (Especially when switching between languages after adopting one for a while). However, that is just for if I happen to be offline. Whenever I can, google is faster.
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I'm not even sure I could be a programmer without the internet. The information that one can get with a simple search engine query is amazing. I'm thankful for all of the people who've helped me solve problems over the years - free of charge. Blogs, forums, and tech articles all contribute to this golden age of information. If you've ever tried to look up something in a card cataloge at a local library you know exactly what I'm talking about. *shudder* So I get annoyed to no end when I perform a query and Experts Exchange comes up. The question I'm asking is there and so is the answer but they want me to pay for it. Let me tell you what this means: All it means is I have to click on a different link because there is no way in hell I'm paying for the information. It's a free country. They've a right to create the site and charge for the information. People are free to come up with any whacky business plan they desire and it makes no difference to me if the owners get rich off it. However, I harbor a sneaking suspicion that many of the answers one gets from an "expert" are the result of the "expert" getting the answer by first opening a web browser and performing a search. I know this rant isn't entirely fair. It would take a great deal of work to create a website, manage members, and take care of all the details involved in running a business. That said, it just strikes me as shady - not criminal by any means - just something that isn't quite really offering a product. They've positioned themselves in a gray area as merchants for what is widely availabe for free. That's icky. And while I can ignore Experts Exchange - since every question I've ever had is handily answered elsewhere for free - the really dark question in the back of my mind is "What would happen if everyone adopted this model?" That's the part that grates me. Who looks at the free flow of information and happily converts our wonderful exchange of information to a subscription model? Who looks at the internet and even wants to monetize it like that? There is evil there! So yeah, as unfair as all of this is to the people over at Experts Exchange I'll be honest and admit that I believe their utter failure is a win for everyone else. That is one business model that I want to see go down in flames.
You are just making the mistake of thinking that anything on this world is really free. Every service which is run by a business costs money and they do have their ways of getting it from you. It would be a truly stupid business model if not. You could consider it an invisible inofficial tax on everything you buy.
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To be fair, I think they come up a lot less than they used to. I remember a time several years back when almost every search would end up with "expert sex change" in the first two or three results. Perhaps it changed when they changed their domain name?
Wjousts wrote:
almost every search would end up with "expert sex change"
Are you trying to tell us something?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Just ask in the Q-A forums on CP and one of SA or OriginalG will answer you in minutes, and they'll even do the research for you :-)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
Why did you exclude yourself? I think it should be SA , OriginalG and you as well :)
