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The case against Lance Armstrong is officially dropped.

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    Septimus Hedgehog
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    At long last, the great man can rest knowing the collective weight of the US justice system could find nothing against him. Lance was the cleanest sportsman and was probably subject to many 10's of drug tests each year. 1999-2005 proved he was the greatest cyclist of his generation. When Floyd Landis, Rasmussen, Richard Virenque and the entire Festina team and the drug-fuelled Marco Pantani were banned or stripped off their honours it took someone like Lance to prove there is a right way. He had raw talent that didn't need a supply of dope to keep him on top. Of course, the new generation is cleaner and nobody tests the integrity of riders like Mark Cavendish. Lance was jabbed and spat at by the French media who could not accept that one man's ability was enough to endure. I'd like to shake Lance's hand and tell him there was no better role model for everything that could be great in all sports. He knows it, they know it but the sniping of cyclists who competed against him can at last stick their smelly feet in their size 20 mouths knowing that Lance was always better then them for all the right reasons. 1999-2005 is all the proof I need.

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      At long last, the great man can rest knowing the collective weight of the US justice system could find nothing against him. Lance was the cleanest sportsman and was probably subject to many 10's of drug tests each year. 1999-2005 proved he was the greatest cyclist of his generation. When Floyd Landis, Rasmussen, Richard Virenque and the entire Festina team and the drug-fuelled Marco Pantani were banned or stripped off their honours it took someone like Lance to prove there is a right way. He had raw talent that didn't need a supply of dope to keep him on top. Of course, the new generation is cleaner and nobody tests the integrity of riders like Mark Cavendish. Lance was jabbed and spat at by the French media who could not accept that one man's ability was enough to endure. I'd like to shake Lance's hand and tell him there was no better role model for everything that could be great in all sports. He knows it, they know it but the sniping of cyclists who competed against him can at last stick their smelly feet in their size 20 mouths knowing that Lance was always better then them for all the right reasons. 1999-2005 is all the proof I need.

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      SCraw2855
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      To boot, he did with a single testicle!

      Something worth reading, albeit it's invincible!

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        To boot, he did with a single testicle!

        Something worth reading, albeit it's invincible!

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        I wonder if the Uniball pen company has ever approached him about being a spokesperson?

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          I wonder if the Uniball pen company has ever approached him about being a spokesperson?

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          RC_Sebastien_C
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          So bad it's a 5!

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            So bad it's a 5!

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            Well there's no need to get...wait for it....wait for it....testy.

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              Well there's no need to get...wait for it....wait for it....testy.

              Steve Wellens

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              Ravi Bhavnani
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              What's your point? /ravi

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                Well there's no need to get...wait for it....wait for it....testy.

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                AspDotNetDev
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                :laugh: That was so low you should be hung for it, or in the very least sacked!

                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                  What's your point? /ravi

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                  Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                  What's your point?

                  The point, Ravi-ji, is that the Lounge Mission is: "to explore perverse new worlds, to seek out bizarre facts, and new degenerations, to crassly go where no man has gone before because of the concept of good taste." I believe the Lounge Mission was partly inspired by Star Trek. best, Bill

                  "Our life is a faint tracing on the surface of mystery, like the idle, curved tunnels of leaf miners on the surface of a leaf. We must somehow take a wider view, look at the whole landscape, really see it, and describe what's going on here. Then we can at least wail the right question into the swaddling band of darkness, or, if it comes to that, choir the proper praise." Annie Dillard

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                    :laugh: That was so low you should be hung for it, or in the very least sacked!

                    Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                    AspDotNetDev wrote:

                    That was so low you should be hung for it, or in the very least sacked!

                    I was going to use that but you beat me to it! Nuts.

                    Steve Wellens

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                      At long last, the great man can rest knowing the collective weight of the US justice system could find nothing against him. Lance was the cleanest sportsman and was probably subject to many 10's of drug tests each year. 1999-2005 proved he was the greatest cyclist of his generation. When Floyd Landis, Rasmussen, Richard Virenque and the entire Festina team and the drug-fuelled Marco Pantani were banned or stripped off their honours it took someone like Lance to prove there is a right way. He had raw talent that didn't need a supply of dope to keep him on top. Of course, the new generation is cleaner and nobody tests the integrity of riders like Mark Cavendish. Lance was jabbed and spat at by the French media who could not accept that one man's ability was enough to endure. I'd like to shake Lance's hand and tell him there was no better role model for everything that could be great in all sports. He knows it, they know it but the sniping of cyclists who competed against him can at last stick their smelly feet in their size 20 mouths knowing that Lance was always better then them for all the right reasons. 1999-2005 is all the proof I need.

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                      Note that while the FDA and FBI are dropping their investigations, the US Anti-Doping Agency isn't 'US Anti-Doping Agency chief executive officer Travis T. Tygart said his organisation, the official anti-doping agency for Olympic sports in the US, would continue its investigation. "Unlike the US Attorney, USADA's job is to protect clean sport rather than enforce specific criminal laws," Tygart said. "Our investigation into doping in the sport of cycling is continuing and we look forward to obtaining the information developed during the federal investigation."' http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/armstrong-in-clear-after-us-drops-criminal-probe-20120204-1qygb.html[^] Doping has been a part of cycling forever and those in the sport have been open about it. A great quote I read was that professional cyclists have a job to do and if they take the drugs not to be better, but simply to allow themselves to compete at all. It's become a huge, money making spectactor sport and the public demands feats of strength and endurance that are super-human. My opinion is that if no one is doping, or if they are all doping, they are still competing head to head with each other and the best is still the best, regardless. Lance was the best, both as a rider, a strategist, and most notably, as a competitor. However, the evidence to me is that he, along with many of his team, and along with many at his level, was not clean. I guess we still have to wait and see.

                      cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                        What's your point?

                        The point, Ravi-ji, is that the Lounge Mission is: "to explore perverse new worlds, to seek out bizarre facts, and new degenerations, to crassly go where no man has gone before because of the concept of good taste." I believe the Lounge Mission was partly inspired by Star Trek. best, Bill

                        "Our life is a faint tracing on the surface of mystery, like the idle, curved tunnels of leaf miners on the surface of a leaf. We must somehow take a wider view, look at the whole landscape, really see it, and describe what's going on here. Then we can at least wail the right question into the swaddling band of darkness, or, if it comes to that, choir the proper praise." Annie Dillard

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        Good sir, I was just trying to be punny! :-D /ravi

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                          AspDotNetDev wrote:

                          That was so low you should be hung for it, or in the very least sacked!

                          I was going to use that but you beat me to it! Nuts.

                          Steve Wellens

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                          Ravi Bhavnani
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                          Now, now... don't get p----ed! /ravi

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                            Note that while the FDA and FBI are dropping their investigations, the US Anti-Doping Agency isn't 'US Anti-Doping Agency chief executive officer Travis T. Tygart said his organisation, the official anti-doping agency for Olympic sports in the US, would continue its investigation. "Unlike the US Attorney, USADA's job is to protect clean sport rather than enforce specific criminal laws," Tygart said. "Our investigation into doping in the sport of cycling is continuing and we look forward to obtaining the information developed during the federal investigation."' http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/armstrong-in-clear-after-us-drops-criminal-probe-20120204-1qygb.html[^] Doping has been a part of cycling forever and those in the sport have been open about it. A great quote I read was that professional cyclists have a job to do and if they take the drugs not to be better, but simply to allow themselves to compete at all. It's become a huge, money making spectactor sport and the public demands feats of strength and endurance that are super-human. My opinion is that if no one is doping, or if they are all doping, they are still competing head to head with each other and the best is still the best, regardless. Lance was the best, both as a rider, a strategist, and most notably, as a competitor. However, the evidence to me is that he, along with many of his team, and along with many at his level, was not clean. I guess we still have to wait and see.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            Interestingly one of the drugs you get along side chemotherapy for testicular cancer is a steroid banned in most sports.

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                              At long last, the great man can rest knowing the collective weight of the US justice system could find nothing against him. Lance was the cleanest sportsman and was probably subject to many 10's of drug tests each year. 1999-2005 proved he was the greatest cyclist of his generation. When Floyd Landis, Rasmussen, Richard Virenque and the entire Festina team and the drug-fuelled Marco Pantani were banned or stripped off their honours it took someone like Lance to prove there is a right way. He had raw talent that didn't need a supply of dope to keep him on top. Of course, the new generation is cleaner and nobody tests the integrity of riders like Mark Cavendish. Lance was jabbed and spat at by the French media who could not accept that one man's ability was enough to endure. I'd like to shake Lance's hand and tell him there was no better role model for everything that could be great in all sports. He knows it, they know it but the sniping of cyclists who competed against him can at last stick their smelly feet in their size 20 mouths knowing that Lance was always better then them for all the right reasons. 1999-2005 is all the proof I need.

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                              Ger Hayden
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                              I'm guessing you are not on Paul Kimmage's christmas card list

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                                AspDotNetDev wrote:

                                That was so low you should be hung for it, or in the very least sacked!

                                I was going to use that but you beat me to it! Nuts.

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                                Obviously low-balling the humor here.

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                                  I'm guessing you are not on Paul Kimmage's christmas card list

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                                  Septimus Hedgehog
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                                  I'm not on his mailing list and he's not on mine. It's interesting to note that he and Landis were both second-raters with little career success. I'm not surprised that he had Lance in his riflescope. Those who accuse Lance do so with no direct evidence and again, I'd rather trust the number of tests he failed (0) than rely on the troublesome anecdotes and hearsay that those who have achieved little in the sport have to offer against him. There are similar problems in the potential GB Olympics athletics team. Some of the possible team members have brought cheating back in the mainstream. Thankfully, the cycling team is on top of its game precisely thanks to Landis et al prompting a major cleanup in the sport. It's reassuring to know that the likes of Hoy, Pendleton, Cavendish, Wiggins and other cyclists succeeded because their blood was clean.

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                                    Note that while the FDA and FBI are dropping their investigations, the US Anti-Doping Agency isn't 'US Anti-Doping Agency chief executive officer Travis T. Tygart said his organisation, the official anti-doping agency for Olympic sports in the US, would continue its investigation. "Unlike the US Attorney, USADA's job is to protect clean sport rather than enforce specific criminal laws," Tygart said. "Our investigation into doping in the sport of cycling is continuing and we look forward to obtaining the information developed during the federal investigation."' http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cycling/armstrong-in-clear-after-us-drops-criminal-probe-20120204-1qygb.html[^] Doping has been a part of cycling forever and those in the sport have been open about it. A great quote I read was that professional cyclists have a job to do and if they take the drugs not to be better, but simply to allow themselves to compete at all. It's become a huge, money making spectactor sport and the public demands feats of strength and endurance that are super-human. My opinion is that if no one is doping, or if they are all doping, they are still competing head to head with each other and the best is still the best, regardless. Lance was the best, both as a rider, a strategist, and most notably, as a competitor. However, the evidence to me is that he, along with many of his team, and along with many at his level, was not clean. I guess we still have to wait and see.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    My opinion is that if no one is doping, or if they are all doping, they are still competing head to head with each other and the best is still the best, regardless.

                                    I agree 100% with you on this. If they're all taking the same crap where's the outcry coming from? The ones with little determination and still lose....imo What's interesting about this too, is that he managed to pass 24+ unannounced drug tests through this time. If he was using, it seems strange that he never tested positive. Some of the drugs he did admit to taking were part of his cancer treatment/recovery. None the less, these guys are ridiculously fit and skinny. Some of his previous team members were also paid for their stories, to which they admitted to using and condemned Lance. I've never been a fan of watching these guys, but I do have a tremendous amount of respect for their training.

                                    Something worth reading, albeit it's invincible!

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                                      Good sir, I was just trying to be punny! :-D /ravi

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                                      BillWoodruff
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                                      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                      I was just trying to be punny

                                      Namaste Ravi-ji, I also was attempting a joke. best, Bill

                                      "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool." Richard Feynman

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                                        I'm not on his mailing list and he's not on mine. It's interesting to note that he and Landis were both second-raters with little career success. I'm not surprised that he had Lance in his riflescope. Those who accuse Lance do so with no direct evidence and again, I'd rather trust the number of tests he failed (0) than rely on the troublesome anecdotes and hearsay that those who have achieved little in the sport have to offer against him. There are similar problems in the potential GB Olympics athletics team. Some of the possible team members have brought cheating back in the mainstream. Thankfully, the cycling team is on top of its game precisely thanks to Landis et al prompting a major cleanup in the sport. It's reassuring to know that the likes of Hoy, Pendleton, Cavendish, Wiggins and other cyclists succeeded because their blood was clean.

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                                        Ger Hayden
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                                        GAA Star Tony Griffin would agree with you, and frankly its Groundhog day every time Paul Kimmage gets on Radio, TV or Newsprint in Ireland.

                                        Ger

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