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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Twas I - it is a good read isn't it!

    Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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    Septimus Hedgehog
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    Nay, sir. I do believe t'was me?

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      Yes it was, Napoleon finding it awkward I like, I must admit on occassion I have referred to I have called mm's as Napoleans revenge. Thanks for the XML & ini advice earlier Glenn :)

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      glennPattonWork wrote:

      ...I must admit on occassion I have referred to I have called mm's as Napoleans revenge.

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      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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        Read it!

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        glennPattonWork wrote:

        Read it!

        Well read, aren't you Kermit. :) For a frog, that is.

        Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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          glennPattonWork wrote:

          ...I must admit on occassion I have referred to I have called mm's as Napoleans revenge.

          What does this snippet mean?

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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          Septimus Hedgehog
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          On the same line, I did read that the Saniflow toilet waste pump system was invented by a Frenchman as a means of revenge for the battle of the Nile, Trafalgar and Waterloo. They can't win on the battlefield so they got their own back in the waste disposal industry. I'm sure Al Murray, the pub landlord, would have something to say about it all.

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            Nay, sir. I do believe t'was me?

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            OriginalGriff
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            Possibly both of us - I know I have in the past - it just shows that we both have good ideas, and taste in books! :laugh:

            Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Possibly both of us - I know I have in the past - it just shows that we both have good ideas, and taste in books! :laugh:

              Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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              Septimus Hedgehog
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              Agreed. :)

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                Hi All, Just wanted to say thanks to the person who recomended the Measure of All Things by Ken Alder, it was mentioned in a back and forth to do with EU and the French, (Darlek Dave mentioned French Hair Dressers...) so bought it on Amazon to read on the Train while commuting, lent it to a friend who was also impressed. Napoleon wanted measurments converted to what he knew from metric as he couldn't think metric. Amazing really, thanks for the recomendation any other good books.... Glenn

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                glennPattonWork wrote:

                as he couldn't think metric

                He didn't want, I believe. French were really great those days, they tried hard to reinvent the world. :)

                Veni, vidi, vici.

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                  glennPattonWork wrote:

                  ...I must admit on occassion I have referred to I have called mm's as Napoleans revenge.

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                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                  Michael Martin wrote:

                  glennPattonWork wrote:

                  ...I must admit on occassion I have referred to I have called mm's as Napoleans revenge.

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                  Millimeters (two l's, er not re), combined with bad eyesight shipping deadline to meet, sir, I assure you! Glenn

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                    Agreed. :)

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                    Ugh. Get a room you two. ;P

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                      glennPattonWork wrote:

                      as he couldn't think metric

                      He didn't want, I believe. French were really great those days, they tried hard to reinvent the world. :)

                      Veni, vidi, vici.

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                      They got wine, chesse & coffee right, then gave up? ;P

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                        On the same line, I did read that the Saniflow toilet waste pump system was invented by a Frenchman as a means of revenge for the battle of the Nile, Trafalgar and Waterloo. They can't win on the battlefield so they got their own back in the waste disposal industry. I'm sure Al Murray, the pub landlord, would have something to say about it all.

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                        glennPattonWork3
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                        Ahh yes, Darlek Dave in disguise:cool:

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                          Michael Martin wrote:

                          glennPattonWork wrote:

                          ...I must admit on occassion I have referred to I have called mm's as Napoleans revenge.

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                          Millimeters (two l's, er not re), combined with bad eyesight shipping deadline to meet, sir, I assure you! Glenn

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                          glennPattonWork wrote:

                          Millimeters (two l's, er not re)...

                          You got the two l's correct, but like all Yanks fucked up and couldm't get the re in the right order. Maybe we should throw in a few superfluous U's to help the US crowd spell it correctly.

                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            glennPattonWork wrote:

                            Millimeters (two l's, er not re)...

                            You got the two l's correct, but like all Yanks fucked up and couldm't get the re in the right order. Maybe we should throw in a few superfluous U's to help the US crowd spell it correctly.

                            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            glennPattonWork3
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                            Umm, I am a UK CPian, just have to deal with our cousins on the other side of the Atlantic daily! I thought re was American I do spell Colour properly, drink white coffee & travel on the underground! (not tube) Glenn

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                              It's Dave trying to start a fight (I guess):confused:

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                              With the French? Good lord, where's the fun in that? Just when the argument gets going, they give up!

                              Will Rogers never met me.

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                                Hi All, Just wanted to say thanks to the person who recomended the Measure of All Things by Ken Alder, it was mentioned in a back and forth to do with EU and the French, (Darlek Dave mentioned French Hair Dressers...) so bought it on Amazon to read on the Train while commuting, lent it to a friend who was also impressed. Napoleon wanted measurments converted to what he knew from metric as he couldn't think metric. Amazing really, thanks for the recomendation any other good books.... Glenn

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                Agreed - an excellent read. My son's teacher in 8th grade was fascinated by this book when I gave her a copy. Gads, that was 7 years ago! Marc

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                                  Umm, I am a UK CPian, just have to deal with our cousins on the other side of the Atlantic daily! I thought re was American I do spell Colour properly, drink white coffee & travel on the underground! (not tube) Glenn

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                                  glennPattonWork wrote:

                                  Umm, I am a UK CPian, just have to deal with our cousins on the other side of the Atlantic daily! I thought re was American I do spell Colour properly, drink white coffee & travel on the underground! (not tube)

                                  Well at least you know I'm not stalking you or your profile, just assumed you were a Yank cause of the spelling. We spell most of our measurements with re and words like centre and cilibre the right way. It seems to be too much for the Yanks (probably the French influence, you know Arkanses and all that wrong pronunciation) who want to say Sentray and Caleebray when they see them spelt the correct way.

                                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                    With the French? Good lord, where's the fun in that? Just when the argument gets going, they give up!

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    Well you obviously don't know some of us :mad: PS: I get the so-called 'jokes' about surrender monkeys, just not worth fighting about.

                                    'As programmers go, I'm fairly social. Which still means I'm a borderline sociopath by normal standards.' Jeff Atwood 'I'm French! Why do you think I've got this outrrrrageous accent?' Monty Python and the Holy Grail

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                                      Hi All, Just wanted to say thanks to the person who recomended the Measure of All Things by Ken Alder, it was mentioned in a back and forth to do with EU and the French, (Darlek Dave mentioned French Hair Dressers...) so bought it on Amazon to read on the Train while commuting, lent it to a friend who was also impressed. Napoleon wanted measurments converted to what he knew from metric as he couldn't think metric. Amazing really, thanks for the recomendation any other good books.... Glenn

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                                      The subject of my current read may not be along your alley, it is certainly a different topic from The Measure of All Things, but I'll recommend it anyway, as it is a quietly brilliant book that I think the whole world--or at least the West--would benefit from reading: An Altar in the World - Barbara Brown Taylor

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                                        Read iWoz quite good, I don't tend to go for Business people Bio's, Jobbs always struck me more as a suit!

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                                        The main difference between Gates and Jobs is that Jobs can't program and Gates (for the most part) doesn't care what other people think. The Jobs biography is a good read, I got it for Christmas from my mom-in-law. HTH, -Chris C.

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                                          Hi All, Just wanted to say thanks to the person who recomended the Measure of All Things by Ken Alder, it was mentioned in a back and forth to do with EU and the French, (Darlek Dave mentioned French Hair Dressers...) so bought it on Amazon to read on the Train while commuting, lent it to a friend who was also impressed. Napoleon wanted measurments converted to what he knew from metric as he couldn't think metric. Amazing really, thanks for the recomendation any other good books.... Glenn

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                                          When I read this book a few years ago, I also read three other this-is-how-it-came-to-be books around the same time. They were... - Longitude, by Dava Sobel - The story of the invention of accurate timepieces to solve the problem of finding longitude at sea. - A Thread Across the Ocean, by John Steele Gordon - The story of the laying of the first transatlantic undersea telegraph cables. - The Difference Engine, by Doron Suade - The story of the invention of the first real modern computing device. When reading these three along with The Measure of All Things, one gets a good demonstration of what is done well by government and what is done only poorly. Where there was immediate market application, as with the undersea cable, great quantities of money were readily available and massive ships and manpower could be obtained. Where this was lacking, as with Babbage's machine, relatively tiny sums for the next iteration of progress and innovation could not be had. The government is best at such things as setting standards for commerce as with the metric system and accurate navigation as with the longitude problem. The government should leave actual commerce to the merchants themselves. Computers might have gotten an early start had Babbage tried to find a compelling commercial use for his invention instead of putting copyists out of work producing mathematical tables. Cheers, Russ

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