Meetings can make you, uh, stupid
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http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10312535-meetings-can-make-you-uh-stupid[^] I think we should have a meeting to discuss these results.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
Just printed off the article and handed it to my boss :)
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http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10312535-meetings-can-make-you-uh-stupid[^] I think we should have a meeting to discuss these results.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
Nice article. I have always thought that meetings in general are arenas for people to hear themselves talk. They have no one else to talk to in their life, so they set up times to talk to you. Quite sad actually. The last meeting I had that was actually productive was my job interview.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10312535-meetings-can-make-you-uh-stupid[^] I think we should have a meeting to discuss these results.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
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I have a window next Thursday pre-noon for a pre-agenda-discussion discussion.
Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
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http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10312535-meetings-can-make-you-uh-stupid[^] I think we should have a meeting to discuss these results.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
There is a difference in taking a test and getting constant feedback on what others 'scored' and 'responded' in comparison to you, and a meeting setting. Not that I am fond of meetings, but I see no similarity in the study. I have never been in a meeting that took place like a "House Differential". For those that do, you should get a new job. Normally meetings are not at all about someone being more intellegent or comparing studies. If someone is presenting it is likely because they went to a seminar, read a book, etc. etc. and are now sharing it with the group. If your 'ego' is hurt because they seem to know more about that subject now, you should also go get a new job. Most common reason for a meeting (at least in my experience) is to get everyone on the same page. Project XYZ has a billion tasks that need to be done by 5 resources. Divide and conquer. Someone gets stuck lets discuss it and figure out how to move on. It is never about 'who' finds the answer, but it is about the answer.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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There is a difference in taking a test and getting constant feedback on what others 'scored' and 'responded' in comparison to you, and a meeting setting. Not that I am fond of meetings, but I see no similarity in the study. I have never been in a meeting that took place like a "House Differential". For those that do, you should get a new job. Normally meetings are not at all about someone being more intellegent or comparing studies. If someone is presenting it is likely because they went to a seminar, read a book, etc. etc. and are now sharing it with the group. If your 'ego' is hurt because they seem to know more about that subject now, you should also go get a new job. Most common reason for a meeting (at least in my experience) is to get everyone on the same page. Project XYZ has a billion tasks that need to be done by 5 resources. Divide and conquer. Someone gets stuck lets discuss it and figure out how to move on. It is never about 'who' finds the answer, but it is about the answer.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Most common reason for a meeting (at least in my experience)
...is so the project manager can point out how many meetings he has organised when it comes to his review.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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There is a difference in taking a test and getting constant feedback on what others 'scored' and 'responded' in comparison to you, and a meeting setting. Not that I am fond of meetings, but I see no similarity in the study. I have never been in a meeting that took place like a "House Differential". For those that do, you should get a new job. Normally meetings are not at all about someone being more intellegent or comparing studies. If someone is presenting it is likely because they went to a seminar, read a book, etc. etc. and are now sharing it with the group. If your 'ego' is hurt because they seem to know more about that subject now, you should also go get a new job. Most common reason for a meeting (at least in my experience) is to get everyone on the same page. Project XYZ has a billion tasks that need to be done by 5 resources. Divide and conquer. Someone gets stuck lets discuss it and figure out how to move on. It is never about 'who' finds the answer, but it is about the answer.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Most common reason for a meeting (at least in my experience) is to get everyone on the same page.
Not if you work in government, in the UK anyway. The purpose of meetings is to avoid having to take sole responsibility for decisions.
Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
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http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10312535-meetings-can-make-you-uh-stupid[^] I think we should have a meeting to discuss these results.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
Step 1: Forward your link to everyone. Step 2: Meet to discuss implications.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10312535-meetings-can-make-you-uh-stupid[^] I think we should have a meeting to discuss these results.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
A strategy I've found extremely successful in not being asked to attend meetings: Ask lot's of questions at the first meeting you attend and get a reputation for asking questions that take some sort of minimal understanding to answer. I don't think I get more than a few meetings a year, anymore. I've also heard that only at the equinox has a similar effect
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10312535-meetings-can-make-you-uh-stupid[^] I think we should have a meeting to discuss these results.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
We have lots of meetings in my company, mostly very short, well-organized ones. The boss hates meetings, so he makes them move quickly, sometimes rather forcefully. Vendor meetings are the worst we have to suffer, since they tend to go on and on about irrelevant subjects. We've learned to deal with that by requiring vendors to bring food; at least we get breakfast out of the hour or so wasted by each, and it scares a few off. I rarely feel drained by them, since things get accomplished in most of our meetings, and I'm often the one contributing information that others need, or taking over tasks that aren't getting done in a timely manner by those who should be doing them. It keeps things moving, and I never have time to get bored. We have one guy who is truly helpful and gets a lot done, but he's inclined to keep a list and insists on reading from it every week at the staff meeting, detailing his every phone call, conversation, and memo written in the past week, and sharing with us all everything he plans to do this week. He can often take up more time alone than the entire rest of the staff. The boss sometimes just cuts him off mid-report and moves on; it's nice to work for someone who knows how to handle drones for a change! :laugh:
Will Rogers never met me.
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We have lots of meetings in my company, mostly very short, well-organized ones. The boss hates meetings, so he makes them move quickly, sometimes rather forcefully. Vendor meetings are the worst we have to suffer, since they tend to go on and on about irrelevant subjects. We've learned to deal with that by requiring vendors to bring food; at least we get breakfast out of the hour or so wasted by each, and it scares a few off. I rarely feel drained by them, since things get accomplished in most of our meetings, and I'm often the one contributing information that others need, or taking over tasks that aren't getting done in a timely manner by those who should be doing them. It keeps things moving, and I never have time to get bored. We have one guy who is truly helpful and gets a lot done, but he's inclined to keep a list and insists on reading from it every week at the staff meeting, detailing his every phone call, conversation, and memo written in the past week, and sharing with us all everything he plans to do this week. He can often take up more time alone than the entire rest of the staff. The boss sometimes just cuts him off mid-report and moves on; it's nice to work for someone who knows how to handle drones for a change! :laugh:
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
it's nice to work for someone who knows how to handle drones for a change!
How refreshing that must be. I envy you. :)
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Most common reason for a meeting (at least in my experience) is to get everyone on the same page.
Not if you work in government, in the UK anyway. The purpose of meetings is to avoid having to take sole responsibility for decisions.
Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
And that honestly is not a horrible reason for a meeting either. Nor will it make you stupider. One may have a grand idea, but getting buy-in is important for their career if things don't go as planned. Boss: "Who the #&@& signed off on this?!?!" .... Group : Awkward silence.... Boss: :doh:
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Nice article. I have always thought that meetings in general are arenas for people to hear themselves talk. They have no one else to talk to in their life, so they set up times to talk to you. Quite sad actually. The last meeting I had that was actually productive was my job interview.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
jsc42 wrote:
and did you get the job?
yes. that is why I said that meeting was productive. Most (99.9999999%) of all our meetings are exercises in the art of stupidity and time wasting. I wish I was lying.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
http://lifeinc.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/07/10312535-meetings-can-make-you-uh-stupid[^] I think we should have a meeting to discuss these results.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
Time to watch Meetings, Bloody Meetings http://www.media-partners.com/business_meetings/meetings_bloody_meetings_training_video.htm[^] Cleese tells it best.
Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Most common reason for a meeting (at least in my experience)
...is so the project manager can point out how many meetings he has organised when it comes to his review.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
Ah yes, the bloody meeting. A place where minutes are kept and hours are lost.