Is It jus me?
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I don't personally like it because it seems like the interface is going to slow me down, but it is nice to see Microsoft doing something pretty different other than copying Apple for once.
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MiddleTommy wrote:
Ah, but you do work on just a single app at a time
I don't know about _Maxxx_, but while I only interact with a single app at a time, I often have multiple apps doing things on my behalf simultaneously. It helps me to be able to dedicate enough screen real estate so I can monitor their progress, especially when they require me to do a lot of poke-and-wait-poke-and-wait kind of interaction.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
I am just like that too. But I am beginning to look at that way I interact with my computer as having too many SQL Joins (slow). I think Metro is more of a NOSQL brain approach to desktop computing. All that monitoring is taking our attention away from the current task.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
I don't care one way or the other about the Metro UI. I tend to take jobs at .NET shops because they're willing to hire me. I'll probably use Metro when I take a contract at a shop which has standardized on Windows 8.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
Having used the Zune and then Windows Phone 7 Metro interfaces, and now the Windows [8] Developer Preview since September, I like it a lot. Yeah, I'm biased, but I have also used a Mac OSX for quite a while and found it quite lacking. My Kindle Fire interaction isn't very good either. I much prefer reading email on my WP7 phone than on the Kindle Fire apps.
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Ah, but you do work on just a single app at a time. WP7 mango lets you see all the running apps. I am sure an "Alt-Tab" like shortcut will emerge for win8. Metro forces the App developers to allow the OS to close/hibernate Apps not in use to keep the system running smooth. You should be able to re open an app you were on previously and the app starts up where you left off. So why have them open all the time?
OK take this real situation: I am learning MVVM on MVC using KnockoutJs I have VS2010 open and I am writing C# code to create my model from a database I have SQL Management Studio open on a 2nd monitor - both so I can write SQL and also so I can refer to my tables & SPs as i write C# I have my web browser window open on a tutorial page showing me some C# code which I am adapting I have another browser window open with another example which I am comparing. Additionally, with VS, I have some of the panes undocked for convenience, and to increase the code pane real estate. Sure, I could alt-tab between each app- but that would be like going back in time - constantly flicking to the browser, remembering stuff from there, back to VS, start typing - Oh! was that a double curly bracket? back to the browser - Oh! damn, thats SQL, browser, VS type in - what was that column name again, back to SQL you get the picture?
MiddleTommy wrote:
Metro forces the App developers to allow the OS to close/hibernate Apps not in use to keep the system running smooth.
Great for tablets, crap for pCS
MiddleTommy wrote:
You should be able to re open an app you were on previously and the app starts up where you left off. So why have them open all the time?
On a low power processor on a small screen tablet, this is a necessary evil - it is not a 'great idea' but something that is necessary on battery-powered devices to conserve as much power and memory as possible. They need to be open because I am referring to them, and using them, many times per minute.
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OK take this real situation: I am learning MVVM on MVC using KnockoutJs I have VS2010 open and I am writing C# code to create my model from a database I have SQL Management Studio open on a 2nd monitor - both so I can write SQL and also so I can refer to my tables & SPs as i write C# I have my web browser window open on a tutorial page showing me some C# code which I am adapting I have another browser window open with another example which I am comparing. Additionally, with VS, I have some of the panes undocked for convenience, and to increase the code pane real estate. Sure, I could alt-tab between each app- but that would be like going back in time - constantly flicking to the browser, remembering stuff from there, back to VS, start typing - Oh! was that a double curly bracket? back to the browser - Oh! damn, thats SQL, browser, VS type in - what was that column name again, back to SQL you get the picture?
MiddleTommy wrote:
Metro forces the App developers to allow the OS to close/hibernate Apps not in use to keep the system running smooth.
Great for tablets, crap for pCS
MiddleTommy wrote:
You should be able to re open an app you were on previously and the app starts up where you left off. So why have them open all the time?
On a low power processor on a small screen tablet, this is a necessary evil - it is not a 'great idea' but something that is necessary on battery-powered devices to conserve as much power and memory as possible. They need to be open because I am referring to them, and using them, many times per minute.
MVVM# - See how I did MVVM my way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
I do hope there will be multi app for multi monitor support. And a split screen option would be nice too. Like I said before I work with many apps tabs and monitors too. I am approaching this new Windows era with a positive look instead of kicking and screaming. You know windows8 sp1 is where it will come together anyway.
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My argument was purely about ergonomy, not usability. Regarding the latter, I think it's fine, and probably an improvement over the classical desktop OS. The problem I see is that a touch screen is ergonomically horrible for professional use, and we do not yet have a suitable input device to replace touch input for use at a computer work place for people who have to work at a computer for several hours a day. Yes, of course, we can just use a mouse - but mouse movements don't translate well to stuff like swipes, especially when the space on your desk is limited: you'll have to be very considerate where you put your coffee mug! Maybe a touch pad will work better - but then we've had touch pads for decades and they were never really adopted. Same for trackballs.
I don't know. My wife and kids have macbooks and can use the touch pad quite well. You should see my wife with her Plant's vs. Zombies game. She is quite masterful with the touch pad. I guess, it is just a matter of what you get used to. I have all kinds of trouble using the touch pad, but I am used to a mouse. At one time, many years ago, I even used a roller-ball type of mouse where I could position the mouse with my pinky.
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Or are there any other cpians that actaully like the metro interface. It seems and feels new. In the link bellow I much better prefer the metro screen then the OSXyz one: http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-windows-8-vs-apple-os-x-mountain-lion/[^] With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
All the best, Dan
MDL=>Moshu wrote:
With apple it just seems like nothing new. Sure some new apps, security ... but overall nothing new/big.
Isn't that the way Microsoft works? Head in one direction, see what apple is doing, hire former apple employees, do an about-face on their design, get sued, win because they just did something thats intuitively obvious...
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I don't know. My wife and kids have macbooks and can use the touch pad quite well. You should see my wife with her Plant's vs. Zombies game. She is quite masterful with the touch pad. I guess, it is just a matter of what you get used to. I have all kinds of trouble using the touch pad, but I am used to a mouse. At one time, many years ago, I even used a roller-ball type of mouse where I could position the mouse with my pinky.
Again, I was talking about ergonomy. I'm not saying I wouldn't use such an OS for private purposes. It's not that I can't use it, or even think it's inferior to others. But, at my age, either bending my neck to look down on a screen on my lap, or raising my hands to a touch screen in front of my eyes for an extended period of time, will cause me physical pain. And I know I'm not the only one. An OS that would force me into such a position at work for hours is therefore unacceptable to me.
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Looks like it is just you.
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OK, fair point.
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