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    (a+b)2 = a2 + b2 + 2ab[^] ?

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    Mike Hankey
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    good explanation...never saw that before.

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      Pictures of math don't help me understand it better, I'm better at reasoning through it: (a+b)^2 = (a+b)(a+b) = a(a+b) + b(a+b) = a^2 + ab + ab + b^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2 So, (a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2 But I guess that's just how I learn. I'm generally better at objective subjects (math, physics, etc.) than subjective subjects (English, history, etc.) as a result.

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      lewax00 wrote:

      (a+b)^2 = (a+b)(a+b) = a(a+b) + b(a+b) = a^2 + ab + ab + b^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2

      You don’t need this part, it’s more clean without it. Anyway have a five.

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      • L Lost User

        (a+b)2 = a2 + b2 + 2ab[^] ?

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        I wonder if there's a simple visual demonstration of why every even integer greater than 2 can be expressed as the sum of two primes.

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          (a+b)2 = a2 + b2 + 2ab[^] ?

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          Very nicely explained. I've never seen that before. Give that guy a medal! His accent makes it all the more entertaining.

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            lewax00 wrote:

            (a+b)^2 = (a+b)(a+b) = a(a+b) + b(a+b) = a^2 + ab + ab + b^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2

            You don’t need this part, it’s more clean without it. Anyway have a five.

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            Corporal Agarn
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            I was taught the same way with the a(a+b)+b(a+b) in the proof.

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              I wonder if there's a simple visual demonstration of why every even integer greater than 2 can be expressed as the sum of two primes.

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              Lost User
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              That would be a really awesome - that would mean Goldbach's conjecture is suddenly solved

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              • L Lost User

                (a+b)2 = a2 + b2 + 2ab[^] ?

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                I had a binomial cube[^] in my classroom when I was 4 years old. There are a large number of objects like this that have been part of introducing mathematical concepts to young children as part of Montessori education for close to a hundred years now. Concepts are introduced using multiple senses: vision, touch, weight perception, hearing, etc. once the child becomes familiar with them in an intuitive sense, then the analytic concepts are introduced sometimes years later, but they are usually picked up pretty quickly because the groundwork has already been laid.

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                  I wonder if there's a simple visual demonstration of why every even integer greater than 2 can be expressed as the sum of two primes.

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                  Andy Brummer
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                  Or even just a visual representation that makes primeness obvious.

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                    lewax00 wrote:

                    (a+b)^2 = (a+b)(a+b) = a(a+b) + b(a+b) = a^2 + ab + ab + b^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2

                    You don’t need this part, it’s more clean without it. Anyway have a five.

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                    Well depending on how familiar you are with it, you can argue any or all intermediate steps are unnecessary. Although on paper I generally omit that step, it is still there mentally (think about how you multiply it through, you're still passing through step that in one form or another).

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                    • L Lost User

                      (a+b)2 = a2 + b2 + 2ab[^] ?

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                      killabyte
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                      cool video.... i recently watch a video on vedic knowledge and how they multipled using line intersections 7000 years ago! amazing

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                        lewax00 wrote:

                        (a+b)^2 = (a+b)(a+b) = a(a+b) + b(a+b) = a^2 + ab + ab + b^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2

                        You don’t need this part, it’s more clean without it. Anyway have a five.

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                        Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                        ou don’t need this part, it’s more clean without it.

                        Try teaching someone who doesn't know how to do that already, without using that step and then see how "clean" it is. Even better try teaching it to 30 people.

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                        • A Andy Brummer

                          I had a binomial cube[^] in my classroom when I was 4 years old. There are a large number of objects like this that have been part of introducing mathematical concepts to young children as part of Montessori education for close to a hundred years now. Concepts are introduced using multiple senses: vision, touch, weight perception, hearing, etc. once the child becomes familiar with them in an intuitive sense, then the analytic concepts are introduced sometimes years later, but they are usually picked up pretty quickly because the groundwork has already been laid.

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                          Michael Bergman
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                          5 for the signature. Very nice.

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                            (a+b)2 = a2 + b2 + 2ab[^] ?

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            How did he get a square from a line though? That's the hard part.

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                              Or even just a visual representation that makes primeness obvious.

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                              Seems like there is such a way, but perhaps not for my brain. Ever read "The man who mistook his wife for a hat" by Oliver Sacks? In it, there are these two autistic twins who alternately recited 6 digit numbers to each other, then, as it dawned on the other that the number was prime, laughed out loud. The twins were separated by our friends at family services. Then there is that high functioning autistic guy "Daniel Tammet", who, in his book "Born on a blue day" tries to tell us about the topological landscape of numbers he sees and explores mentally. Fascinating stuff.

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                                Seems like there is such a way, but perhaps not for my brain. Ever read "The man who mistook his wife for a hat" by Oliver Sacks? In it, there are these two autistic twins who alternately recited 6 digit numbers to each other, then, as it dawned on the other that the number was prime, laughed out loud. The twins were separated by our friends at family services. Then there is that high functioning autistic guy "Daniel Tammet", who, in his book "Born on a blue day" tries to tell us about the topological landscape of numbers he sees and explores mentally. Fascinating stuff.

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                                Andy Brummer
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                                I doubt there is. If it was something that was easily recognizable, then it could be turned into an algorithm and there aren't any of those. The only things that I could think of would require an infinite dimensional drawing, so not very useful. I haven't read either of those books, but they are now on my list.

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                                  5 for the signature. Very nice.

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                                  Andy Brummer
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                                  Thank you. It's a labor of love.

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                                  • A Andy Brummer

                                    I doubt there is. If it was something that was easily recognizable, then it could be turned into an algorithm and there aren't any of those. The only things that I could think of would require an infinite dimensional drawing, so not very useful. I haven't read either of those books, but they are now on my list.

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                                    Tom Clement
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                                    I agree that it could be turned into an algorithm if we really knew what was going on. That's what makes it so intriguing to me :).

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                                      I doubt there is. If it was something that was easily recognizable, then it could be turned into an algorithm and there aren't any of those. The only things that I could think of would require an infinite dimensional drawing, so not very useful. I haven't read either of those books, but they are now on my list.

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                                      Tom Clement
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                                      Here are a few articles on point about autistic savants and prime numbers. http://www.integra.pt/textos/autism.pdf[^] http://goertzel.org/dynapsyc/yamaguchi.htm[^] http://www.scientiareview.org/pdfs/122.pdf[^] All are fascinating.

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                                      • L lewax00

                                        This one[^] seemed pretty simple.

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                                        krumia
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                                        Cool. Not as straightforward as the (a+b)^2 this though :)

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                                          (a+b)2 = a2 + b2 + 2ab[^] ?

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                                          There is a problem with that though. This proof is based on geometry. And geometry, as other branches of maths, are built upon basic postulates. Postulates are just assumptions, that could go wrong. Did you know that there is a strange kind of geometry, in which some of the basic postulates of common (Euclidean) geometry is left out. see this.[^] Actually, I don't know if you can prove this thing in those other geometry or not. :)

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