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Is COBOL still relevant?

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  • U User 4243366

    Thanks Paul. That is a fair comment. However, this article is neither promoting COBOL nor damning it. Rather, it is asking what should be done about it. I found it interesting and apparently, so have a number of other people. It's a bit sad to see people commenting on something they haven't even read, but this is a lounge and that's what happens in lounges :-)

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    I never commented on the article - I commented that I was not going to read it. I don't read articles on flying saucer sightings either. Thats just an efficient deployment of resources.

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      Why does C# lack credibility? Maybe I should start a new thread.

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      No, please don't... ;-) It's based on how much Cobol is used in the financial systems (I don't work with finance systems but a fairly large corporation and we have a lot of legacy systems in Cobol, that will remain in Cobol for the foreseeable future). At most places I've worked VB (and by that I mean VB1-VB6) has been something that has been tried to have removed, either by redoing applications altogether (in Java, C#) or trying to "port" them to VB.Net. VB had ~20 years where it was great and now we try to cleanse our memory from it, my best guess is that in 10-20 years time we'll do it with C# and .Net as well but Cobol will still linger on in the background as it does today.

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        Member 4246474 wrote:

        We all know COBOL is a dying language

        Member 4246474 wrote:

        That statement is my personal opinion.

        But you make it sound like it's everyones opinion (at least everyone at Codeproject). I don't think it's more dying than you or me, we'll eventually die but hopefully not in the near future. I think it's the same weith Cobol, it'll still be around for a long time. So in essence you right, Cobol will die but it'll take a long time doing so. I'd wager C# is dead before Cobol though.

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        I DID qualify it by saying it is perceived wisdom. (However, at this stage, I do share it personally.) I gained that perception by talking with other programmers in other lounges, but your point is taken. I'll modify my statement to: "Many programmers believe COBOL is a dying language." However, the article neither endorses that view nor condemns it. I was hoping to get some comments from people who actually read it and who program for a living, to see if they agree or disagree with it. I programmed COBOL for a couple of decades but don't any more, so I have an interest and wondered what others opinions might be. I think the point about COBOL being overtaken by a paradigm shift is an interesting one.

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        • L Lost User

          I never commented on the article - I commented that I was not going to read it. I don't read articles on flying saucer sightings either. Thats just an efficient deployment of resources.

          Peter Wasser Art is making something out of nothing and selling it. Frank Zappa

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          It is indeed and each of us has a right to decide what inputs we will process. :-) I am suitably chastened by your response. (you're missing a lot of fun with UFOs though... ;-))

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          • U User 4243366

            We all know COBOL is a dying language and there is not much coverage here because of that. However if anyone is involved with COBOL at any level or knows someone who is, you/they might find this article thought provoking. http://primacomputing.co.nz/COBOL21/COBOLRelevance.aspx

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            It's only relevant to someone that's being paid to code in it.

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            • U User 4243366

              We all know COBOL is a dying language and there is not much coverage here because of that. However if anyone is involved with COBOL at any level or knows someone who is, you/they might find this article thought provoking. http://primacomputing.co.nz/COBOL21/COBOLRelevance.aspx

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                It's only relevant to someone that's being paid to code in it.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                and fortunately that someone is not me.

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                  and fortunately that someone is not me.

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                  I actually know a guy that's got a COBOL coding job here in San Aantonio.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    I actually know a guy that's got a COBOL coding job here in San Aantonio.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    There's still a lot of code out there that has to be maintained. I know an old timer that still does it and gets paid very well.

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                    • U User 4243366

                      We all know COBOL is a dying language and there is not much coverage here because of that. However if anyone is involved with COBOL at any level or knows someone who is, you/they might find this article thought provoking. http://primacomputing.co.nz/COBOL21/COBOLRelevance.aspx

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                      A colleague and I were discussing COBOL just yesterday.

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                        and fortunately that someone is not me.

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        That should make you feel younger, Mike. :)

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                        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                          That should make you feel younger, Mike. :)

                          "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                          your betcha :)

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                          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                            and fortunately that someone is not me.

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                            ...and unfortunately its not me

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                              ...and unfortunately its not me

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                              I take it there's a butt load of money to be made?

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