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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
I like Ubuntu a lot. I run it in VMWare player, alongside Windows XP (For testing applications, sometimes I find a bug that appears in XP but not anywhere else. And no, it is not using new APIs that appeared in Vista) I use it for writing code for my C programming class, but often test things in Lubuntu, which is what the professor said to use. He also likes Emacs.
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Mono still doesn't do WPF. That, IMHO, is a major drawback.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997You mean WPF is a major drawback? :)
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
I'm not a huge fan of the way the UI in Ubuntu is going, with the whole Unity thing. Linux Mint is a distro based on Ubuntu that has a more Windows-like interface, with all the advantages of Ubuntu. If Microsoft doesn't make sure Windows 8 is mouse friendly, I might consider a permanent switch to Mint.
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
I agree wholeheartedly. Actually, the only reason I have Windows anywhere other than work now is to play games. I used to be obsessive about having an up-to-date Windows install at home so that I could play around with libraries and code golf in my spare time, but not any more. I never develop anything full-blown outside of work, so it seems a waste of time and money. Besides, it's more of a challenge to get into a new development stack.
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
I have done this exact same thing in the last week. Very impressed with Ubuntu, love the way they have done the dash, software center and settings section. My external usb soundcard (EMU 0202) was identified and works perfectly, yet the vendor does not support ubuntu, and it requires a separate driver install on windows 7 to even be identified! The only reason to hang on to windows at all is for Visual Studio, SQL Server and iTunes
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
Windows is user fraindly ,,,, but ubuntu is not user fraindly even if illetrate person can easily oprate the windows operating system
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
I am a Linux user, dual boot all my computers. But, personally, I prefer Linux Mint. It's built on top of Ubuntu, and improves it considerably, IMHO. http://linuxmint.com/[^]
The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
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Mono still doesn't do WPF. That, IMHO, is a major drawback.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997WPF for the industry is not relevant.
Windows forms is sufficient. In my case I had two years with ubuntu (9.10) installed on a PC and runs faster than windows xp or 7 with fewer resources.
In these two years had no problem software. The software was developed in .Net and works on Mono without any modification, have access to a database with ~ 45GB (MSSQL2008)NKS
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
Games? Games are the reason to run Win 7, right? What FPS games run equivilantly on Linux?
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
I installed Ubuntu 11 Studio as a dual boot two weeks ago and agree with your points. It was the easiest Linux installation/setup I have been through yet. Everything just worked. No sudo commands or funky vi editors were involved. Only when I decided I just couldn't live with the bright magenta login screen did I venture into the vi editor. There seems to be a plethora of software available. I'm really liking it! The hard truth is that Ubuntu could never completely replace Windows for me, at least not for work. For now, it's just an experiment. I will probably only fire it up when I want to play OpenBVE or test a website in Firefox. Eventually, I intend to use it as a training environment for learning some different programming languages.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I'm not a huge fan of the way the UI in Ubuntu is going, with the whole Unity thing. Linux Mint is a distro based on Ubuntu that has a more Windows-like interface, with all the advantages of Ubuntu. If Microsoft doesn't make sure Windows 8 is mouse friendly, I might consider a permanent switch to Mint.
I always hear good things about mint, especially from windoze users. I use xfce for a desktop now, because I don't like unity/gnome 3. It might work for some, and I'm not bashing it, I just couldn't get used to it. Also , puppy linux is a neat little distro. It runs all in memory too. You can use it from a live disk and it will "save state" without whiping your current os. I never got it installed, but I have run it several times from the cd.
If it moves, compile it
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Windows is user fraindly ,,,, but ubuntu is not user fraindly even if illetrate person can easily oprate the windows operating system
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
Ubuntu is the best system for non gamer users, because it is much more simple to be installed and used than windows 7. But its the major advantage is the fact that it is almost immune to common viruses, because one can get almost all software for free from trusted sources.
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I am a Linux user, dual boot all my computers. But, personally, I prefer Linux Mint. It's built on top of Ubuntu, and improves it considerably, IMHO. http://linuxmint.com/[^]
The world is going to laugh at you anyway, might as well crack the 1st joke! My code has no bugs, it runs exactly as it was written.
I don't dual boot, but I do have a windoze xp and a windoze 7 vm. I got the xp one for some games my brothers wanted me to play, and I have the 7 one for some work/testing I do at home. I prefer gentoo, but there's nothing wrong with Ubuntu or Mint. Especially if you don't want to spend the time, and pay the attention required, for gentoo.
If it moves, compile it
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Games? Games are the reason to run Win 7, right? What FPS games run equivilantly on Linux?
You can use a vm to play games. I do at home and it works really well. You can check out crossover games, wine, and cedega if you want windoze only games to run on linux, or you can check out games by artists like FrozenByte. I have the new shadowgrounds at home and it's pretty awesome. Look at Desura games.
If it moves, compile it
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I installed Ubuntu 11 Studio as a dual boot two weeks ago and agree with your points. It was the easiest Linux installation/setup I have been through yet. Everything just worked. No sudo commands or funky vi editors were involved. Only when I decided I just couldn't live with the bright magenta login screen did I venture into the vi editor. There seems to be a plethora of software available. I'm really liking it! The hard truth is that Ubuntu could never completely replace Windows for me, at least not for work. For now, it's just an experiment. I will probably only fire it up when I want to play OpenBVE or test a website in Firefox. Eventually, I intend to use it as a training environment for learning some different programming languages.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
kmoorevs wrote:
funky vi editors
You can edit system files with pico, nano, or gedit. I prefer gedit for a gui editor.
kmoorevs wrote:
Ubuntu could never completely replace Windows for me, at least not for work
I work in a windoze shop so I can see where you are coming from. However, I can set up my gentoo laptop to use all the office file shares, and do all the work I need to. The only thing I'd really have to do is setup vb6 in wine, and write code to process calc sheets instead of office and I'd be good to go. We are moving to .net slowly though, so hopefully mono is a valid option. Soon I may be using my linux box in the windoze shop :D
If it moves, compile it
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Ubuntu is the best system for non gamer users, because it is much more simple to be installed and used than windows 7. But its the major advantage is the fact that it is almost immune to common viruses, because one can get almost all software for free from trusted sources.
Member 4683399 wrote:
Ubuntu is the best system for non gamer users
It's pretty simple to play any game you want on Ubuntu. It's for more than non-gamers. It's not hard at all to setup a vm, which I find better than trying to reboot all the time. I have played games like Need For Speed, LoL, etc.. in a vm.
Member 4683399 wrote:
that it is almost immune to common viruses
almost, and common are keywords. It's still possible to get root-kit and/or hijacked in linux. It's not a big worry if you keep strong passwords, and keep your system up to date though. There are worries, just not as common as windoze. Then again, windoze has a bulz eye and linux does not (due to user base and [I believe] open source code). If everyone used linux instead of windoze, linux would have viruses. There's just not much benefit in writing them atm.
If it moves, compile it
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Mono has come a long way in a very short time. If you havent gotten the most recent updates, you might try it again. That said, I think VS is the superior IDE for it. And I agree that mono probably can't replace it completely.
If it moves, compile it
You might want to try out some C# plugins for Eclipse - there are a few. Didn't try any out myself, since I mostly do Java or Javascript when not programming professionally, though, so I can't tell about how good they are.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Because all of the apps are already compiled.
Ubuntu is a binary distro. The software center also fetches them very easily for you. If you are looking for pre-compiled apps that "just work" then Ubuntu tends to make it easier in my experience. Other people that I have "converted" tend to agree. There is also codeweavers, which is pretty much automated wine. This runs windows software pretty well, including games. Though the games department is lacking quite a bit. Crossover does cost some money, but it's worth it if you don't want to configure wine.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
More or less, the world runs on Windows
End users do, yeah.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
and IT departments don't want aren't budgeted to devote money or time to support mixed platform networks.
I agree with this. They just don't want to, and many people don't understand linux. A good many people are intimidated by it, so never even attempt to understand it. My brother was going into windows admin, while I was taking linux classes. There were a great many more windows classes to match the 4 linux classes.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Whether the difficulties are real or imagined, that's the way things are.
Agreed.
If it moves, compile it
Even worse, I saw admins with hands-on desktop Linux experience - people you'd expect to know a thing or two - who were too lazy to discover how nice Linux can be managed in an enterprise environment, and insisted on using Windows servers.