Ubuntu
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Even worse, I saw admins with hands-on desktop Linux experience - people you'd expect to know a thing or two - who were too lazy to discover how nice Linux can be managed in an enterprise environment, and insisted on using Windows servers.
I've seen this as well. I have a college who likes the idea of linux, and has used it, but is still just more comfortable in windows. I'm not sure why. I've had him on the brink of switching over a couple of times. I did get our database server on linux, as well as php and some other things. Maybe eventually , but for now it's still all windows. He just is more comfortable with it.
If it moves, compile it
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You maybe not, but I would definitely say that especially from a home user's POV Kubuntu is way better - except if you're a gamer. Besides not costing anything, it keeps you safe by design (no viruses, no worms), you don't have to skim through dubious software download sites to get software and then spend time manually installing the software, its updates mechanism is way easier to use than that of Windows (you don't have distinct update applications from different vendors, and _all_ apps are updated automatically, not just the ones for which vendors provide updaters). All in all, you spend a lot less time maintaining your system, it works faster and looks better. And except for games, which are the only apps nowadays who really put the hardware at work, you can run mostly anything in wine. Even games are slowly but surely catching up - have a look at 0AD, it is already playable, and its graphics are great.
I've never been a big KDE fan, but the people who use it seem to love it. It's just not really for me. As far as games go, yes wine is great. You can get crossover to and it will do the configurations for you pretty easily. You can also look into native games. There is a game called Heroes of NewErth that is very nice 3d and is made to work on linux.
If it moves, compile it
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
Linux is best!
Regards, Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji
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Linux is best!
Regards, Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji
I have been a windows user for many years. I'm sick and tired of the license policy of M$. Have some of you tried to register some of M$ products without internet? And what about if you have to reinstall an OEM version? I downloaded ISO-file of Ubuntu and burned it to an DVD, booted on it an start testing without installing it (try that on windows). I really liked what I experienced, so I installed Ubuntu and Mint on VirtualBox. For me, Mint is a winner. As mentioned here, with programs for daily use already installed (LibreOffice etc). Work-areas (yeah, you might find this in windows to), easy configuration, script language (you have to install PowerShell on windows). No registry. Will a program that is installed on one machine work on an another machine, just by copying the program folder? I'll give it a try. There are tons of educational-, scientific- office -programs for free!! Very easy to find them and install them and with a good description of each program. Linux is also a great environment for programming microcontrollers. The only reason that I not have switched, is: 1. Visual Studio is still the best development environment (I'm a csharp guy). 2. LinqPad. Using it every day and quite addicted. Until I get the same on Linux, I have to live in "two worlds". In (short?) time, Linux will be a M$ killer!
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Erudite_Eric wrote:
I dont know why the world is still Windows obsessed. It really is dumb.
Actually, it's quite easy to understand. Support, applications, and comfort. You go with what works. Users are still idiots. Sit someone down in from of Word and they're comfortable with it. Sit them down in front of any other Word-equivilent and they'll be completely lost. Most users hate change. Hell, just upgrading from Word 2003 to 2007 will throw users into a tizzy.
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Dave KreskowiakI was thinking more of the corporate users, whho have a support dept, and spend a lot on IT. As for users hating change, true, yet they accepted the new MS Office toolbar layout, which I hate by the way, so users do accept change.
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Because all of the apps are already compiled. End-users are generally NOT propeller heads like we are, and they just want stuff to work after being installed. Interoperability is another aspect. More or less, the world runs on Windows, and IT departments don't want aren't budgeted to devote money or time to support mixed platform networks. Whether the difficulties are real or imagined, that's the way things are.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997But think of the savings corporates could make using free IT. I think the reason is one of critival mass. While Windows is dominant, no IT dept guy wants his skills to go out of step with the market, and so will always stay with Windows.
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
I installed ubuntu 10.04 on my PC sometimes last year and I really am thrilled with the ui, and I could easily find my way around it, but I still found win7 more attractive
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I've started thinking on similar lines. The only reason I have to used Windows is to develop .NET apps. Unfortunately, Mono is not yet mature enough to replace .NET completely.
I've just transitioned over to Ubuntu, My laptop, Home PC, and home server/media PC now runs it. I use MonoDevelop as a VS replacement, and there is actually nothing I really miss about VS. most of the automated things in VS, that I use, have been implemented in MonoDevelop. ( it was actually the fact that MonoDevelop was buggy in windows that made me think about Ubuntu) Mono like has been said before has come a long way, the only major thing it doesn't support is WPF . but I don't use it any way, though if a client wants a WPF implementation, I tend to write the back end in MonoDevelop on Ubuntu and just do the GUI design in VS/Blend on a Win7 Virtual Box, but this is rare, and I try and get them to understand the benefits of a completely cross-platform GUI, e.g. winforms or GTK#. WCF support is partial as well, but these are mainly linked to WPF/Silverlight and are not needed in most cases. Obviously all of that is just my opinion and also directly related for my uses of mono and .net, but Ubuntu and Mono, really aren't that hard just to pick up and go. (I should also mention that I've just installed Linux Mint 12\Lisa on my PC, and actually prefer it for a desktop linux install, and you can still you the Ubuntu Software centres/PPAs with no trouble.)
Nat 'Squeak' Davies Squeak Technologies
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WPF for the industry is not relevant.
Windows forms is sufficient. In my case I had two years with ubuntu (9.10) installed on a PC and runs faster than windows xp or 7 with fewer resources.
In these two years had no problem software. The software was developed in .Net and works on Mono without any modification, have access to a database with ~ 45GB (MSSQL2008)NKS
Well.. that's why WPF is even more relevant! Having made the switch I can tell it give me a big edge in term of productivity, i.e. in producing more quickly app which are more functional and are more maintainable, i.e. a competiting advantage!! I'm happy there are plenty of loser, err.. people using Winform, gives me an edge! :P
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I installed Ubuntu 11 in VirtualBox inside Win 7 and I was so impressed with it that I decided to install it alongside Windows 7. Here are my reasons on why I feel Ubuntu is better than Win 7. 1. It has a very neat UI compared to Win 7, not that Win 7 UI is bad, but Ubuntu UI is outstanding (makes me think who needs Aero?) 2. It comes pre-installed with many basics apps and utlities like Libre Office, Bluetooth drivers, LAN and WiFi drivers, etc. I took me more than 4 hours to setup Win 7 and hardly 10 mins to setup Ubuntu with identical features. 3. I like the Ubuntu Software Centre, wish Win 7 had such a feature. 4. The System Settings is neatly and logically arranged. It is very easy to use compared to Win 7's Control Panel. For example, to disable Network, all I have to do it click a button. In Win 7, it's not that easy. 5. Supports multiple destops out of the box. 6. Has a neat Taskbar(?) on the left and an information bar(?) on the top that displays almost all required information. (I'm not sure if the names I used are correct. I'm not so knowledgable in Linux.) The only downside is that I had a little trouble configuring by Bluetooth mouse, but at last it worked. In Win 7 all I had to do is just switch on the mouse and Win 7 did all the magic. (Of course, I had to install the Bluetooth system driver first which I didn't have to do in Ubuntu.) Many of the features I listed above are unqiue to Ubuntu and not Linux in general. And the most compelling reason to use Ubuntu is: I paid nothing for it. :-) What are your thoughts?
I am using both, and I have to say if I could find the geniuses at Ubuntu who decided to knowingly break the UI, I would force them to debug Microsoft Clippy as penance. In 10.10 it was fine. In 11.04 they broke it, but gave you an option of using the "classic" UI which fixed it. In 11.10, they removed the classic option so it would stay the frak broke. They even defended breaking it by saying having the ability to add shortcuts where ever you wanted would "confuse" end users. Idiots. Apparently 2010 was the Year of Ubuntu after all, and we just didn't realize how good we had it.
Narf.