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    After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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    David Crow
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    MehGerbil wrote:

    Does anyone else do this...

    I do. I've never been a fan of shortened names (e.g., no vowels, abbreviated abbreviations), especially when there's no reason.

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      "x" and "y" are perfectly valid variables: particularly when you are talking about co-ordinates:

      foreach (Control c in Controls)
      {
      c.Location = new Point(x, y);
      x += horizontalSpacing;
      y += verticalSpacing;
      }

      Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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      You're right of course, but in my workplace, we don't do any mathematical or graphical programming. So I get stabby.

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      • L Lost User

        After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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        Roger Wright
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        I try to stick with a shortened, but meaningful name. But with advancing age I find it useful to document my work separately by listing the name, type, and use for each variable as I create it. Of course, it's not age, really, that drives me to this extreme measure, but the fact that I never have the time to sit down a build an app in one go. It often can be weeks or months between sessions at the IDE, by which time I've completely forgotten what I was trying to do. A quick review of my notes helps a lot to get me back into the project. Happily, I don't have to do this for a living, so I can plod along in any way that suits me with no boss breathing down my neck and shouting about deadlines; I set my own, and ignore them at will. :-D

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          i, then j, then k, then l, then whatTheFrickAmIDoingNestingLoopsThisDeep.

          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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          Slacker007
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          OriginalGriff wrote:

          whatTheFrickAmIDoingNestingLoopsThisDeep

          exactly. :)

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          • D dexterama

            At my previous job - I was slogging through some legacy code in a financial application and came across a variable called Wayne_Gretsky and no one knew what it meant.

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            Chris Meech
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            dexterama wrote:

            Wayne_Gretsky

            Probably a variable that could stick handle. See Wayne Gretzky[^]. :)

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              a loop in a loop? ii? :-D

              "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
              "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                Slacker007
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                :laugh:

                "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)

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                • V Vark111

                  "Object" smells of Hungarian notation and elderberries. ;P I'm on a crusade at my workplace to stamp out Hungarian, so I'm just particularly sensitive to those sorts of things. Anyway, Hungarian aside, I use full and complete names. Pascal case or camel case depending on context. The only abbreviation I use is "Id".

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                  Lost User
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                  I once used Hungarian notation in a project and another developer looked at it, rolled his eyes, and then sighed 'oh, Hungarian notation'. He was one of those self-aggrandizaing pricks who looked down on everyone else. He eventually went off and got a job at a prestigious company earning twice what I make. I hate that guy. :-D

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                  • L Lost User

                    After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                    MehGerbil wrote:

                    It may get a wee bit tedious ... I find it less confusing.

                    IMHO, clarity wins over tedium.  The coding standards where I work require explicitly specified table and field names.  As a result, devs have no problem deciphering our schema.  And that's a HUGE win. /ravi

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                    • R RJOberg

                      I do it for a majority of things. The exception are objects that I ALWAYS abreviate the same way. tbl for table, cb for check box, cbo for combo box, vw for view and some others. These abreviations are not used for anything else and are always used when that type of object occurs. Otherwise, the more robust the variable name the better for reading the code. The easier it is to read, the less comments I have to make. The other exception is when I have to loop through something where the name of the iterator doesn't matter, then it is 'j'.

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                      gavindon
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                      same here.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        i, then j, then k, then l, then whatTheFrickAmIDoingNestingLoopsThisDeep.

                        Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                        Lost User
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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        whatTheFrickAmIDoingNestingLoopsThisDeep

                        Shouldn't it be whatTheElephantAmIDoingNestingLoopsThisDeep?

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                          MehGerbil wrote:

                          Does anyone else do this...

                          I do. I've never been a fan of shortened names (e.g., no vowels, abbreviated abbreviations), especially when there's no reason.

                          "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                          "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

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                          TorstenH
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                          I do too. Because I like to think about the task and not only what kind of value that damn variable was. One colleague does not. It's a mess.

                          regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                          • C Chris Meech

                            dexterama wrote:

                            Wayne_Gretsky

                            Probably a variable that could stick handle. See Wayne Gretzky[^]. :)

                            Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            It is hard replying to the correct message. :-D


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                            • L Lost User

                              After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                              Simon_Whale
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                              I generally like descriptive names, one developer that I worked with use to abbreviate them so much it was more of a decipher his variable names before you could work out his code.

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                              • L Lost User

                                OriginalGriff wrote:

                                whatTheFrickAmIDoingNestingLoopsThisDeep

                                Shouldn't it be whatTheElephantAmIDoingNestingLoopsThisDeep?

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                                OriginalGriff
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                                No, my coding standards specifically ban swear words.

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                                • S Simon_Whale

                                  I generally like descriptive names, one developer that I worked with use to abbreviate them so much it was more of a decipher his variable names before you could work out his code.

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                                  TorstenH
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                                  ...that comes with methods longer than 400 lines. And then one tries to remember what that abbreviation was and looses it X|

                                  regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                                    ...that comes with methods longer than 400 lines. And then one tries to remember what that abbreviation was and looses it X|

                                    regards Torsten When I'm not working

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                                    Simon_Whale
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                                    it normally takes me a day and a notepad to work it out oh and a large supply of :java:

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                      My favorite variable names are:

                                      $_
                                      $#
                                      $^W
                                      @ARGV

                                      The full list can be found here: http://affy.blogspot.com/p5be/ch12.htm[^]

                                      utf8-cpp

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                                        Jason Hooper
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                                        public class MehGerbilToldMeToEvenThoughItFeelsWrong_Record
                                        {
                                        public string MehGerbilWouldBeProudOtherwiseIWouldntDoThis_RecordID { get; set; }
                                        public void ImStartingToThinkIMightHaveAProblem();
                                        }

                                        Jason

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          After 10 years of experience I've a tendency to fully spell out variable names in my code and in field names in my databases. I used to shorten things but I found over time that abbreviated names have a tendency to be very inconsistent from class to class or database to database. I'm getting too old to remember clever naming conventions. For example, in a production database that I'm currently slogging through (designed by someone else) the word OBJECT in some field names is OBJECT, while in others it's OBJ much like this: FIN_OBJ_CODE, OBJECT_CD_NM. As you can see, CODE also changes from CODE to CD depending upon the field. For a field that holds 'object code name' you could have: OBJ_CD_NM OBJECT_CD_NM OBJECT_CODE_NM OBJECT_CODE_NAME OBJ_CODE_NM OBJ_CODE_NAME OBJ_CD_NAME WTF_I_FORGOT_TEH_NAME By the time you spread that nonsense through parameters, objects, object properties, fields and so forth one might end up with a dozen or more names for the exact same field. objCodeName _OBJECT_CODE_NAME ObjectCodeName _strObjectCodeName @INeedANewJob NameObjectCode It may get a wee bit tedious that times but now I just spell out the entire name of the field whether I'm naming a table, field, property, parameter or whatever. In the long run I find it less confusing. In the example above, everything is ObjectCodeName. Does anyone else do this or is it just us early onset Alzhemier's victims?

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          I agree 100% But I also try to find names that are as short as possible, but accurate and descriptive. I also hate underscores, I much prefer camelCasing and PascalCasing. I use camelCasing for private names & local variables, and PascalCasing for public and class names.

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