Iran War
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You haven't been paying very close attention to the news. Israel just finished developing their own bunker buster.
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Oh come on. That's just being stupid. For those who don't know, he's referring to this passage: "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan" I cannot respect the opinion of someone who makes such a blanket generalisation.
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ict558 wrote:
Would that were true.
It is. Your anti-US bias is showing.
ict558 wrote:
Achieving what, precisely? Don't you think the 'fallout' of such an action might be ever so slightly detrimental to Iran?
That's risible: it's quite a long way from Israel to Iran and they won't have high yield weapons. Besides, I really don't think they care if some of their own population die if they achieve what they have threatened to do.
ict558 wrote:
Or perhaps something more nuanced, like "This regime that is occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time." Rather as the regime in the USSR did, and as the regime in Iran will, given time.
Wow! Selective ignorance. Breathtaking. Iran has sworn to eradicate both Israel and her Jewish population: you can read it any way you want; doesn't change the truth.
ict558 wrote:
As are the USA and Russia. But, then, the NPT contains 'acceptable intransigence' clauses for those that wrote it.
Now you're trying to deflect. We're not talking about the US or Russia: we're talking about Iran.
ict558 wrote:
Did you copy and paste this from Stratfor - Political Analysts to the Stars?
I have to admnit that I had to look that up: never heard of it before so, no but I'm more than happy if they want to quote me.
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mark merrens wrote:
It is.
No, it is getting the public to accept that Iran is a threat to the USA.
mark merrens wrote:
Your anti-US bias is showing.
True. I am biased against the government of the USA in the way they are handling the Middle East and Pipelinestan. As for coercion: "If you’re not with us, you’re against us." Neutrality is not an option?
mark merrens wrote:
That's risible: it's quite a long way from Israel to Iran and they won't have high yield weapons.
Fallout - as in consequences. Hence the ''.
mark merrens wrote:
Besides, I really don't think they care if some of their own population die if they achieve what they have threatened to do.
Name me one government that is not prepared to sacrifice some its citizens to achieve its goals.
mark merrens wrote:
Wow! Selective ignorance.
Wow! Accurate translations are a bitch, aren't they? Perhaps you should check out the "Eradication of Israel", "Holocaust Denial", and other quotes, rather than just listening to those who tell you what you want to hear. (Don't worry, your innate bias will 'spin' them to give your required message. :-D )
mark merrens wrote:
we're talking about Iran
So am I. What is sauce for the goose ... Perhaps Iran should scrap the NPT and be like India and Pakistan. After all, the NPT was signed by a fiefdom of the USA, rather than the independent country that Iran is today.
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Oh come on. That's just being stupid. For those who don't know, he's referring to this passage: "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan" I cannot respect the opinion of someone who makes such a blanket generalisation.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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mark merrens wrote:
somewhat prejudiced perspective
i dont see how but alright... which part of my rant do you take issue with? do you deny the shah of Iran puppet was installed in 53? do you deny BP set it up? you deny that pakistan, eygpt,india etc already have nukes? do you deny that Israel get 1-2 billion USD in aid every year that is basically sent to them as military ordinance? please explain :|
killabyte wrote:
which part of my rant do you take issue with?
Well all of it really: it is blindly anti-everything and utterly blinkered. I wouldn't even know where to begin with such idiotic and misinformed ravings.
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killabyte wrote:
which part of my rant do you take issue with?
Well all of it really: it is blindly anti-everything and utterly blinkered. I wouldn't even know where to begin with such idiotic and misinformed ravings.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
it is blindly anti-everything and utterly blinkered.
well if i can cite "facts" and all you do is discount them without any citation or supporting docs / ideas / evidence then i sumise that you are infact blindly anti-everthing and utterly blinkered to accepting the current situation around you.
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mark merrens wrote:
it is blindly anti-everything and utterly blinkered.
well if i can cite "facts" and all you do is discount them without any citation or supporting docs / ideas / evidence then i sumise that you are infact blindly anti-everthing and utterly blinkered to accepting the current situation around you.
You haven't cited any facts: you've just made statements.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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You haven't cited any facts: you've just made statements.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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well since you wont believe me go and research what happened to install the puppet in Iran it isnt the only time CIA has done that... infact south american countries have been targetted more often :)
You started out with 'blah blah Zionists blah blah'. I just can't read past that sort of insane prejudice.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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You started out with 'blah blah Zionists blah blah'. I just can't read past that sort of insane prejudice.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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mark merrens wrote:
It is.
No, it is getting the public to accept that Iran is a threat to the USA.
mark merrens wrote:
Your anti-US bias is showing.
True. I am biased against the government of the USA in the way they are handling the Middle East and Pipelinestan. As for coercion: "If you’re not with us, you’re against us." Neutrality is not an option?
mark merrens wrote:
That's risible: it's quite a long way from Israel to Iran and they won't have high yield weapons.
Fallout - as in consequences. Hence the ''.
mark merrens wrote:
Besides, I really don't think they care if some of their own population die if they achieve what they have threatened to do.
Name me one government that is not prepared to sacrifice some its citizens to achieve its goals.
mark merrens wrote:
Wow! Selective ignorance.
Wow! Accurate translations are a bitch, aren't they? Perhaps you should check out the "Eradication of Israel", "Holocaust Denial", and other quotes, rather than just listening to those who tell you what you want to hear. (Don't worry, your innate bias will 'spin' them to give your required message. :-D )
mark merrens wrote:
we're talking about Iran
So am I. What is sauce for the goose ... Perhaps Iran should scrap the NPT and be like India and Pakistan. After all, the NPT was signed by a fiefdom of the USA, rather than the independent country that Iran is today.
Use carrots and sticks to force the little fish into the big tent - Anon
ict558 wrote:
Don't worry, your innate bias will 'spin' them to give your required message
Back at you. I think we'll just bat back and forth: we both have strong positions so I suspect we'll end up agreeing to disagree.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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killabyte wrote:
you seem awfully unwilling to accept historical events
What events? The ones you mak eup in your head. Until you can talk about this withut immediately saying Zionists and Israel commits atrocities then we have nowhere to go: I'm happy to talk facts but you only have fiction to respnd with. Next thing you'll be telling me there was no holocaust and the protocols of the elders of zion is real!
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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killabyte wrote:
you seem awfully unwilling to accept historical events
What events? The ones you mak eup in your head. Until you can talk about this withut immediately saying Zionists and Israel commits atrocities then we have nowhere to go: I'm happy to talk facts but you only have fiction to respnd with. Next thing you'll be telling me there was no holocaust and the protocols of the elders of zion is real!
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
and i will circle back to my previous post ... do you deny the shah of Iran puppet was installed by the US / Brits ? do you deny BP set it up? you deny that pakistan, eygpt,india etc already have nukes? do you deny that Israel get 1-2 billion USD in aid every year that is basically sent to them as military ordinance?
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and i will circle back to my previous post ... do you deny the shah of Iran puppet was installed by the US / Brits ? do you deny BP set it up? you deny that pakistan, eygpt,india etc already have nukes? do you deny that Israel get 1-2 billion USD in aid every year that is basically sent to them as military ordinance?
Sorry, not going to play. I can't take you seriously given what you said.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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Sorry, not going to play. I can't take you seriously given what you said.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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On the occassion of the 60th anniversary of the creation of Isreal: "Those who think they can revive the stinking corpse of the usurping and fake Israeli regime by throwing a birthday party are seriously mistaken. Today the reason for the Zionist regime's existence is questioned, and this regime is on its way to annihilation." or "The Zionist regime has lost its raison d'être. Today, the Palestinians identify with your name Khomeini, your memory, and in your path. They are walking in your illuminated path and the Zionist regime has reached a total dead end. Thanks to God, your wish will soon be realized, and this germ of corruption will be wiped off."
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
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mark merrens wrote:
somewhat prejudiced perspective
i dont see how but alright... which part of my rant do you take issue with? do you deny the shah of Iran puppet was installed in 53? do you deny BP set it up? you deny that pakistan, eygpt,india etc already have nukes? do you deny that Israel get 1-2 billion USD in aid every year that is basically sent to them as military ordinance? please explain :|
killabyte wrote:
the shah of Iran puppet was installed in 53
Yes
killabyte wrote:
do you deny BP set it up?
Yes No
killabyte wrote:
you deny that pakistan, eygpt,india etc already have nukes?
Absoltely yes no.
killabyte wrote:
do you deny that Israel get 1-2 billion USD in aid every year
A little inaccurate, in fact, it gets $3 Billions + every year and has received more than $100 Billions since it established itself illegally. A little research and a little commmon sense tell us that all of the above are true. But don't expect people to accept facts who blindly support an imaginary people living in an invented land.
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and i will circle back to my previous post ... do you deny the shah of Iran puppet was installed by the US / Brits ? do you deny BP set it up? you deny that pakistan, eygpt,india etc already have nukes? do you deny that Israel get 1-2 billion USD in aid every year that is basically sent to them as military ordinance?
killabyte wrote:
do you deny BP set it up?
A small technical point for you. BP was not BP (nor was it British Petrolem) at this point. The name of the company was Anglo Iranian Oil Company, and roots to the coup could be traced back to the decision of the former Iranian Prime Minister to nationalse AIOC, which was only guaranteed to lead to the gunboat diplomacy Britain favoured back then.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility
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ict558 wrote:
Don't worry, your innate bias will 'spin' them to give your required message
Back at you. I think we'll just bat back and forth: we both have strong positions so I suspect we'll end up agreeing to disagree.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
we both have strong positions so I suspect we'll end up agreeing to disagree.
Sure, but to get things straight: 1. I supported those who wished to replace the Shah of Iran with a secular democratic government; 2. I support those who wish to replace the Ayatollah with a secular democratic government.
Use carrots and sticks to force the little fish into the big tent - Anon
