DVD Ripper
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I use DVDFab. It can remove copy protection, FBI notices, ads, and previews, and you're left with just the movie. I have over 700 movies on a couple of 2TB drives, as well as several complete TV series.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
DVDFab
Thanks! I'm gonna try that one.
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Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Because that was not in the rights of the original purchase.
Fair use laws give me that right.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braunahmed zahmed wrote:
Fair use laws give me that right.
Wrong, yet debatable. Has been being debated over the last decade. http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html[^] Here is fair use per the Copywrite office.
Copywrite Office wrote:
1.) The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes 2.) The nature of the copyrighted work 3.) The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole 4.) The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work
Where does it explicitly say you can copy for backup? Note:
Copywrite Office wrote:
The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission. When it is impracticable to obtain permission, use of copyrighted material should be avoided unless the doctrine of fair use would clearly apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine if a certain use may be considered fair nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney.
Since it does not clearly give you the right you have to ask for it. I doubt you did that, and if you did I doubt they gave you the right.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
Fair use laws give me that right.
Wrong, yet debatable. Has been being debated over the last decade. http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html[^] Here is fair use per the Copywrite office.
Copywrite Office wrote:
1.) The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes 2.) The nature of the copyrighted work 3.) The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole 4.) The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work
Where does it explicitly say you can copy for backup? Note:
Copywrite Office wrote:
The safest course is always to get permission from the copyright owner before using copyrighted material. The Copyright Office cannot give this permission. When it is impracticable to obtain permission, use of copyrighted material should be avoided unless the doctrine of fair use would clearly apply to the situation. The Copyright Office can neither determine if a certain use may be considered fair nor advise on possible copyright violations. If there is any doubt, it is advisable to consult an attorney.
Since it does not clearly give you the right you have to ask for it. I doubt you did that, and if you did I doubt they gave you the right.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
The record companies think differently... Look at page 12, lines 1-7 here[^]: METRO-GOLDWYN-MAYER STUDIOS, INC. v. GROKSTER "And let me clarify something I think is unclear from the amicus briefs. The record companies, my clients, have said, for some time now, and it's been on their Website for some time now, that it's perfectly lawful to take a CD that you've purchased, upload it onto your computer, put it onto your iPod. There is a very, very significant lawful commercial use for that device, going forward." Also, see page 3, paragraph 17 here[^]: In the Matter of SONY BMG MUSIC NTERTAINMENT, a general partnership. "In 2007, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), a government office which requires business to engage in consumer-friendly trade practices, has acknowledged that consumers normally expect to be able to rip audio CDs. Specifically, in response to the Sony BMG copy protection rootkit scandal, the FTC declared that the marketing and sale of audio CDs which surreptitiously installed digital rights management (DRM) software constituted deceptive and unfair trade practices, in part because the record company "represented, expressly or by implication, that consumers will be able to use the CDs as they are commonly used on a computer: to listen to, transfer to playback devices, and copy the audio files contained on the CD for personal use."" It is the DMCA that makes copying encrypted DVDs illegal. However, in the 2009 case RealNetworks v. DVD CCA, the final injunction reads, "while it may well be fair use for an individual consumer to store a backup copy of a personally owned DVD on that individual's computer, a federal law has nonetheless made it illegal to manufacture or traffic in a device or tool that permits a consumer to make such copies." (see
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My father is in the merchant marine, and he each time he goes to see he goes out and buys dozens of DVDs. He just got back and wants to now rip all of his DVD collection onto a USB hard drive so his movie collection is both larger and takes up less space in his bag. Anyone have recommendations for a good DVD ripper? I looked at HandBrake, but it says that it doesn't work on copy protected DVDs. What percentage of DVDs are copy protected? Just to be clear, he paid for all the DVDs, he just wants to watch them in a different format now.
DVDFab[^], I've been using it for years, he wants the DVD Ripper to convert to AVI, MP4 and a range of other formats. DVD Copy will enable him to copy to DVD+-R if he wants to play the copies and keep the originals safe.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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The record companies think differently... Look at page 12, lines 1-7 here[^]: METRO-GOLDWYN-MAYER STUDIOS, INC. v. GROKSTER "And let me clarify something I think is unclear from the amicus briefs. The record companies, my clients, have said, for some time now, and it's been on their Website for some time now, that it's perfectly lawful to take a CD that you've purchased, upload it onto your computer, put it onto your iPod. There is a very, very significant lawful commercial use for that device, going forward." Also, see page 3, paragraph 17 here[^]: In the Matter of SONY BMG MUSIC NTERTAINMENT, a general partnership. "In 2007, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), a government office which requires business to engage in consumer-friendly trade practices, has acknowledged that consumers normally expect to be able to rip audio CDs. Specifically, in response to the Sony BMG copy protection rootkit scandal, the FTC declared that the marketing and sale of audio CDs which surreptitiously installed digital rights management (DRM) software constituted deceptive and unfair trade practices, in part because the record company "represented, expressly or by implication, that consumers will be able to use the CDs as they are commonly used on a computer: to listen to, transfer to playback devices, and copy the audio files contained on the CD for personal use."" It is the DMCA that makes copying encrypted DVDs illegal. However, in the 2009 case RealNetworks v. DVD CCA, the final injunction reads, "while it may well be fair use for an individual consumer to store a backup copy of a personally owned DVD on that individual's computer, a federal law has nonetheless made it illegal to manufacture or traffic in a device or tool that permits a consumer to make such copies." (see
Good references but it is important to realize that one producers beliefs does not mean it is legal. Any other producer can sue if they so desire (under current laws). In fact the producer quoted still could because the company "MGM" or "Sony" etc. can later change it's mind. Companies are not obligated to follow precedence of previous executives decisions. The courts ruling are however, so we can all see where it is headed. But we are not yet there.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Jeremy Hutchinson wrote:
Just to be clear, he paid for all the DVDs
They all say that ;P Seriously, if there were good software for copying protected DVDs, well, the DVDs would not be really protected, so...
Rage wrote:
Seriously, if there were good software for copying protected DVDs
What a crap answer - of course there's good software for that. Try CloneDVD together with AnyDVD[^]
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Rage wrote:
Seriously, if there were good software for copying protected DVDs
What a crap answer - of course there's good software for that. Try CloneDVD together with AnyDVD[^]
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932Johnny J. wrote:
What a crap answer
This is no reason to punish me by giving me a link on a Swedish (?) website ;P My formulation was very bad. What I wanted to say is that there is no point in putting DRM if the disks can be copied anyway. One would assume that if they persists in protecting the disks, it is because no software can break them. Obviously not.
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Johnny J. wrote:
What a crap answer
This is no reason to punish me by giving me a link on a Swedish (?) website ;P My formulation was very bad. What I wanted to say is that there is no point in putting DRM if the disks can be copied anyway. One would assume that if they persists in protecting the disks, it is because no software can break them. Obviously not.
Rage wrote:
This is no reason to punish by giving me a link on a Swedish (?) website
Nah, sorry - my mistake - just remove "/se", and it will be English: http://www.slysoft.com/[^] It turns out that when I enter that address on my computer, "/se" is automatically added by Slysoft...
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Jeremy Hutchinson wrote:
Just to be clear, he paid for all the DVDs, he just wants to watch them in a different format now.
Not that I care really, but that does not matter. It is still illegal (under the current laws). This is why they now even package multiple versions for sale. Disney is very known for this as they sell DVD only Blu-Ray Only DVD Blu-Ray Combo DVD Blu-Ray Digital Combo Buying either of the first 3 does not get you access to the digital version (with out using software to rip it). Buying the digital alone often costs around $20, but buying it in said package the math shows it is about $2-$5 (depends on sales etc.) DRM is still up in the air and will be for quite some time. There are millions of reasons. For example, the rights for distribution can be sold and re-sold. This has always been the case even before modern digital distribution. For example a TV show that goes off the air is often sold from the original network to some other network that plays its. They bought those rights and are making money of their distribution via advertising during the shows. Another form is to re-sale, such as when formatting changes (DVD, Blu-Ray, MPEG4 etc. etc.). Classic 50's movies are now being made on Blu-Ray. Just cause you bought it on VHS in the 80's doesn't get you that access or right to it. Some may disagree with this, but that is how things are. [Edit] Some more notes on DRM. The cost I put up above is not 'true', but a virtual cost. For example if you buy the combo (everything) it is about $30 where as the double combo is about $25. So it is virtually $5 more. However, the bulk of the cost is the right to view it. This is why buying the DRM only costs around $20. I am not possitive but I think having the DRM only grants you full access to view on any system, at your own cost. This means you are given the right to burn to DVD, Blu-Ray or the super Kewl next medium. You however pay the costs of the burner and the actual medium. Furhtermore, the DRM only grants access to that digital format. This means if the digital format itself changes you do not have access to it. A simply explanation of this is SD vs. HD. If you bought an SD DRM copy you do not have access to the HD DRM. However some DRM licences may provide you multiple access. As in the disney example above I beleive if you have their DRM licence you get formats for playing on iOS as well as Windows.
Computers have been intelligent
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Jeremy Hutchinson wrote:
Just to be clear, he paid for all the DVDs, he just wants to watch them in a different format now.
Not that I care really, but that does not matter. It is still illegal (under the current laws). This is why they now even package multiple versions for sale. Disney is very known for this as they sell DVD only Blu-Ray Only DVD Blu-Ray Combo DVD Blu-Ray Digital Combo Buying either of the first 3 does not get you access to the digital version (with out using software to rip it). Buying the digital alone often costs around $20, but buying it in said package the math shows it is about $2-$5 (depends on sales etc.) DRM is still up in the air and will be for quite some time. There are millions of reasons. For example, the rights for distribution can be sold and re-sold. This has always been the case even before modern digital distribution. For example a TV show that goes off the air is often sold from the original network to some other network that plays its. They bought those rights and are making money of their distribution via advertising during the shows. Another form is to re-sale, such as when formatting changes (DVD, Blu-Ray, MPEG4 etc. etc.). Classic 50's movies are now being made on Blu-Ray. Just cause you bought it on VHS in the 80's doesn't get you that access or right to it. Some may disagree with this, but that is how things are. [Edit] Some more notes on DRM. The cost I put up above is not 'true', but a virtual cost. For example if you buy the combo (everything) it is about $30 where as the double combo is about $25. So it is virtually $5 more. However, the bulk of the cost is the right to view it. This is why buying the DRM only costs around $20. I am not possitive but I think having the DRM only grants you full access to view on any system, at your own cost. This means you are given the right to burn to DVD, Blu-Ray or the super Kewl next medium. You however pay the costs of the burner and the actual medium. Furhtermore, the DRM only grants access to that digital format. This means if the digital format itself changes you do not have access to it. A simply explanation of this is SD vs. HD. If you bought an SD DRM copy you do not have access to the HD DRM. However some DRM licences may provide you multiple access. As in the disney example above I beleive if you have their DRM licence you get formats for playing on iOS as well as Windows.
Computers have been intelligent
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
However, the bulk of the cost is the right to view it.
So, when I go to my neighbor's house and watch their DVD, I'm engaging in software piracy! OK, I'm kidding, I understand how it works. The laws are wacked. Let's go back to prohibition, that worked just as well as the piracy laws do now AND makes more sense to boot. Oh, that's right, it was repealed because lawmakers were sensible then and rampant ignoring of a law that can't be enforced was OK to repeal.
