Fools!!
-
Christian Graus wrote: but they usually send poor black people to the front don't they ? Or has that changed since Vietnam ? The USA has an all volunteer army. I have a brother-in-law who is an officer, degreed, and a helicopter pilot in the Marines. He has just shipped out to "that" part of the world. I have a son in the Army, an enlisted man (not an officer), who is an E8, which is one step below the highest non-officer. He is also degreed, courtesy of the military and a lot of hard work. He is in Korea on the DMZ. Neither are poor, neither are black. Mike
In Vietnam, the majority of people given a gun and sent out on foot to kill Vietnamese people were both poor and black. I don't regard either of those things to be an insult, I just found that fact an inditement of the system. If there's one group of people I admire, it's helicopter pilots. Now there is a group of people with balls. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 -
Colin Davies wrote: If the US could get the Oil prices stabilised at a lower figure for long enough, it would certainly be a benefit to the 1st world. Get real. Oil would be a damn sight cheaper if the UN sanctions were lifted and Saddam could sell everything he pumped. Mike
Mike Gaskey wrote: Saddam could sell everything he pumped. Now *there's* a statement open to interpretation.... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 -
In Vietnam, the majority of people given a gun and sent out on foot to kill Vietnamese people were both poor and black. I don't regard either of those things to be an insult, I just found that fact an inditement of the system. If there's one group of people I admire, it's helicopter pilots. Now there is a group of people with balls. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002Christian Graus wrote: I just found that fact an inditement of the system. As do I. When "we" had the draft those that were drafted were those not able to avoid it, typically via a college deferment. Being married with children was another way to avoid it. In the end game of that war all of this was changed and all males within a certain age range were given a number and entered into a lottery system with no way of avoiding service if their number was drawn. The bitterness engendered by that war ultimately gave way to the all volunteer concept. The result is that ours is a society that does change in response to healthy internal debate. The idea of a draft (reversion to the previous approach) has recently been pushed by black "leaders". Their rationale is that "white" kids do not enlist but "black" kids do - thus, even with a volunteer army it still sends "black" kids off to war in disproportionate measure. If terrorism continues to grow and out comittments grow proportionately, I have no doubt that the draft will in fact be initiated. FYI - all males who reach 18 still have to register. Mike
-
Mike Gaskey wrote: Saddam could sell everything he pumped. Now *there's* a statement open to interpretation.... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002Drat - another double entendre. Mike
-
Christian Graus wrote: I just found that fact an inditement of the system. As do I. When "we" had the draft those that were drafted were those not able to avoid it, typically via a college deferment. Being married with children was another way to avoid it. In the end game of that war all of this was changed and all males within a certain age range were given a number and entered into a lottery system with no way of avoiding service if their number was drawn. The bitterness engendered by that war ultimately gave way to the all volunteer concept. The result is that ours is a society that does change in response to healthy internal debate. The idea of a draft (reversion to the previous approach) has recently been pushed by black "leaders". Their rationale is that "white" kids do not enlist but "black" kids do - thus, even with a volunteer army it still sends "black" kids off to war in disproportionate measure. If terrorism continues to grow and out comittments grow proportionately, I have no doubt that the draft will in fact be initiated. FYI - all males who reach 18 still have to register. Mike
Mike Gaskey wrote: Their rationale is that "white" kids do not enlist but "black" kids do - thus, even with a volunteer army it still sends "black" kids off to war in disproportionate measure. That's just dumb. If they join by choice, then colour is surely irrelevant ? Mike Gaskey wrote: The result is that ours is a society that does change in response to healthy internal debate. I did not know that had been changed. I'm pleased it has. I agree with a draft, IF the country is in clear danger. If my country was in danger of being attacked by an external aggressor, I would not like the idea of going to war, but I would imagine that my own freedom is my own responsibility to defend. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 -
Drat - another double entendre. Mike
I may be a month off 34, but I can still think like a 14 year old.... Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 -
That whole Middle East area has been causing problems for far too long. And of top of that they think the oil buried below them is theirs alone. If the US could get the Oil prices stabilised at a lower figure for long enough, it would certainly be a benefit to the 1st world. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.
[Sarcasm] Keeping the oil price low is one thing, and the loss of scores of innocent lives is another. If the latter outweighs the former, we’re back to the imperialist colonial era. Also, I doubt this war will bring down the oil price significantly. If anything changes after the mess, it's the share of control over Iraqi oil reserves.. who gets how much of that black gold pie. [/Sarcasm]
-
peterchen wrote: Que? :buzzer:South Parth, the one when they try to save the rain forest in Costa Rica (yeah, i'm very playful)
Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop
KaЯl wrote: :buzzer:South Parth, the one when they try to save the rain forest in Costa Rica Tim: Karl, is that your final answer? Karl: Yyy..e...sss, I... no wait, B! Tim: Ok Karl, I am going to go with that... Karl: NO WAIT! It's South Parth! It is, I know it is. I feel it in my grandma. Tim: For one million pesos.... ooohh... aaahhh... hmmm... mmmm.... can it be... YOURE A MILLIONAIRE KARL! * but only in Mehico WELDONE! :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa -
One might hope he was being ironic, but I doubt he was being sarcastic. Of course war will bring prosperity to the USA, at the cost of lives, but they usually send poor black people to the front don't they ? Or has that changed since Vietnam ? (Yes, I am also being ironic) Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002Christian Graus wrote: Of course war will bring prosperity to the USA OIC, we are talking monetary and economic prosperity. I thought we were beyond that and were seeking moral, ethical and love thy neighbour prosperity. Certainly none of that will come from bombing Iraq. And money runs out, leaving you greedy for more.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa -
One might hope he was being ironic, but I doubt he was being sarcastic. Of course war will bring prosperity to the USA, at the cost of lives, but they usually send poor black people to the front don't they ? Or has that changed since Vietnam ? (Yes, I am also being ironic) Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002Christian Graus wrote: Of course war will bring prosperity to the USA, at the cost of lives That may no longer be true today. American wars are too short to have much of an economic impact. In the first gulf war, Iraq was taken down in a day or two. The cost of lives were also quite light, like a 100 or so. For the second gulf war, I'm expecting the US to successfully repeat the same process. Once again US forces will fight a fast war with light casualties.
-
Christian Graus wrote: Of course war will bring prosperity to the USA OIC, we are talking monetary and economic prosperity. I thought we were beyond that and were seeking moral, ethical and love thy neighbour prosperity. Certainly none of that will come from bombing Iraq. And money runs out, leaving you greedy for more.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaI don't disagree, I was just pointing out the obvious. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002
C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002
Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 -
KaЯl wrote: :buzzer:South Parth, the one when they try to save the rain forest in Costa Rica Tim: Karl, is that your final answer? Karl: Yyy..e...sss, I... no wait, B! Tim: Ok Karl, I am going to go with that... Karl: NO WAIT! It's South Parth! It is, I know it is. I feel it in my grandma. Tim: For one million pesos.... ooohh... aaahhh... hmmm... mmmm.... can it be... YOURE A MILLIONAIRE KARL! * but only in Mehico WELDONE! :rolleyes:
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa