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  • R Roger Wright

    Don't be too quick to blame the net nazi. My lady has a relatively new machine, and uses IE most of the time. But recently she's had trouble with IE shutting itself down while trying to complete tasks like finishing an online college test that can't be started over. I suggested that she switch to Chrome, and she hasn't had a problem since. Her machine is a Dell, with Win7 Ultimate, and she's tried both IE7 and IE8 - she has no interest in trying IE9, since nothing previous works worth a damn. I haven't experienced the shutdown problem myself, but I've been forced to switch to Chrome because my school site won't render pages properly with IE9 - text areas overlap each other and make the page unreadable. But I have to keep it on my machine because when downloading test results, Chrome reports a duplicate header violation and won't download my results for security reasons. IE doesn't mind security violations, and happily downloads any crap I select. Why can't they all just get along?

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    krumia
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    IE doesn't mind security violations, and happily downloads any crap I select.

    So that's supposed to be a feature! And here we were, blaming IE for lack of security.

    Peace, ye fat guts!

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    • A Aamir Butt

      Chrome is the way to go. I shifted from Firefox to Chrome around 6 months back and I have never looked back since.

      A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God

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      krumia
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      I switched to chrome about 3 months back. But I need FF when I want to download flash videos. Apparently there is no alternative for Flashgot in Chrome. :(

      Peace, ye fat guts!

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      • D Dr Walt Fair PE

        Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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        Dario Solera
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        I'm still resisting the urge to drop Firefox, mostly for political reasons. Google already controls a lot of what I do online, so I'm not giving them my desktop browser yet. Also, Firebug on Chrome isn't as good.

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        • D Dario Solera

          I'm still resisting the urge to drop Firefox, mostly for political reasons. Google already controls a lot of what I do online, so I'm not giving them my desktop browser yet. Also, Firebug on Chrome isn't as good.

          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog

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          Dave Kerr
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          I know the feeling. I used to love FireFox, would suggest it to friends, feel a tiny spark of joy when I saw them move from the sluggish and buggy IE to FF. But Chrome just does it all faster, doesn't bug me about updates and is cleaner. It's a very good lesson for software devs - IE was getting more and more features, the UI was becoming bigger, more cluttered and more confusing as they tried to squeeze more in to make each release look bigger, like an improvement. Then google come along with a browser that doesn't have all that crap - and in fact has only a tiny UI, and everyone loves it. I see the same thing happening with other tools - I love uTorrent, because it's lightweight and dead simple, but they're releasing updates every few months that change the UI, try and squeeze in more, and it just doesn't need it. AVG used to be lightweight and discreet and now they're doing the same thing. Sometimes we WANT the software to just sit there, do it's job as quietly and quickly as possible and not pester us!

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          • A Aamir Butt

            Chrome is the way to go. I shifted from Firefox to Chrome around 6 months back and I have never looked back since.

            A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Definitely. On Windows I prefer Chrome, while on Android I prefer Safari (because the Chrome browser, ironically, is a lot worse on Honeycomb and prone to crashing).

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            • D Dr Walt Fair PE

              Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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              blackjack2150
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              Good choice! I've been happily using Opera for years.

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              • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                hairy_hats
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                I would suspect a plugin, not FF itself. Disable or remove all of them and see if you still have the problem.

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                • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                  Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                  Lost User
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                  Yeah,, Firefox is rubbish. Slow, crashes, stalls, Opera is far better.

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                  • A Aamir Butt

                    Chrome is the way to go. I shifted from Firefox to Chrome around 6 months back and I have never looked back since.

                    A year spent in artificial intelligence is enough to make one believe in God

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                    Dr Walt Fair PE
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                    Yeah, Chrome looks pretty nice, but I prefer not to use anything related to Google. Just a personal preference.

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                    • D Dario Solera

                      I'm still resisting the urge to drop Firefox, mostly for political reasons. Google already controls a lot of what I do online, so I'm not giving them my desktop browser yet. Also, Firebug on Chrome isn't as good.

                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog

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                      Dr Walt Fair PE
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                      My feelings, too, which is why I went to Opera rather than Chrome. I don't knowingly use Google products.

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                      • H hairy_hats

                        I would suspect a plugin, not FF itself. Disable or remove all of them and see if you still have the problem.

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                        Dr Walt Fair PE
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                        I don't have any plugins and it did it on 3 different machines. I think it was FF itself.

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                        • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                          Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                          gavindon
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                          I run an i7 processor with 8 gigs of ram and noticed the freezing as well a few weeks ago. I to still have FF installed but have went to chrome for most of my daily uses. have not tried opera.

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                          • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                            Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                            Luc Pattyn
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                            If only Mozilla would use some of their upgrades to fix the bugs users have to deal with all day long... BTW: You will soon discover, if you haven't already, that CP does not support Opera; none of the paste magic works, try pasting a URL or a code snippet in a forum message. :)

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                              If only Mozilla would use some of their upgrades to fix the bugs users have to deal with all day long... BTW: You will soon discover, if you haven't already, that CP does not support Opera; none of the paste magic works, try pasting a URL or a code snippet in a forum message. :)

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                              Dr Walt Fair PE
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                              I haven't discovered that yet. Maybe I'll have to use IE for CP?

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                              • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                                gbrown456
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                                I'm not having this. I've recently switched back to Firefox from having used Chrome & Opera in the past. Yes, the domain guessing is annoying, but you can configure it. As for performance issues, Firefox has made great strides over the last few releases. The best features of Firefox in my opinion are; - Made by a impartial vendor - The best selection of addons - Release cycle in tune with the internet and on par with Chrome - Open source - Familiarity - Speed, still runs rings around IE, and good enough.

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                                • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                  Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                                  Stefan_Lang
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                                  Didn't note the freezing, but some of the main reasons for me to use FireFox have unraveled over the past 1-2 years: popup-/window-opener blocking doesn't always work, some sites don't seem to work with firefox correctly, and speed has been suffering notably. I keep seeing pages that aren't being displayed even in part, just because some ad-servers(!) don't seem to respond. What has happened to FFs' ability to show content before every detail is loaded? P.S.: I used to have Opera around in the 90s, but eventually switched to FF. My wife still uses Opera, and over the past 1-2 years she kept pointing out stuff that works better on Opera: that's how I noticed all the above problems.

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                                  • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                    Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                                    Brad Stiles
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                                    When I started having this same behaviour, along with slow startups (I could start FF, wait a minute, then start IE, and *still* have IE come up to about:blank before FF), I decided to start looking around for other alternatives. Safari works decently on Windows, if not stellarly, and has the advantage of syncing with Safari on my phone. Opera is better than decent, but the convenience of keeping both browsers in synch won the day. Chrome: As if Google doesn't already know enough about what I do on the web...

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                                    • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                      Yep, it did all that a few days ago, but then the freezing up got worse and I finally had enough. I tried IE on the same websites and it was OK, as was Chrome, but Opera looks like the clear winner for me. Sadly, it looks like FF is at the end of its life and it feels like losing an old friend. :((

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                                      Marbry Hardin
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                                      I've actually got a kiosk type application that runs 24-7 on Firefox. IE would just crash itself periodically. Chrome had it's own issues with random pauses and laggy image rendering. I don't usually use FF as a browser, but it's been solid for this application.

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                                        Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                                        Fabio Franco
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                                        I still love firefox specially because it offers more and better add-ons than any other browser, specially firebug.

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                                        • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                          Perhaps I'm the last one to the party, but I've been using FireFox for my main browser for a long, long time. Recently it has started freezing for a few seconds here and there, then there are the (what seems like) daily updates every time I want to do something other than restart for the updates again. As a result, I've installed Opera and it seems to be much better, faster, stabler at the moment. So, I haven't taken FF off of my machines, and perhaps if it stabilizes I'll start using it again, but in the meantime, sorry FF - you just lost a user.

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                                          Alan Balkany
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                                          Firefox freezing up bothers me too. I've had to terminate Firefox and restart it to get a response! It's such a waste of my time. And the disk thrashing; when I'm browsing, Firefox starts the hard disk grinding away and I'm not doing anything! What a waste of time and resources. And the endless updates! The other day I saw two Firefox messages in the same session: "Thanks for installing the new Firefox" AND "Your version of Firefox is out of date and needs to be updated." WTF? I'm giving them ONE MORE UPDATE to make things right: No more freezes or disk grinding or I switch to a better browser.

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