I got the heebee jeebees....
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I love hamburgers, but after reading about this garbage a couple weeks ago, I bought my own meat grinder. I'll never trust supermarket ground "beef" again. Just to be clear. Pink slime has a -high- risk of contamination. They wouldn't douse it in ammonia otherwise. Such a "product" is totally revolting (the slime, not the ammonia). What is the possible contamination? Cow manure. Beef, not. Protein, not. Yum, elephanting not. -- Ian
So, can I assume you've never spent much time on a farm or ranch where the stuff comes from in the first place? And what is so revolting about NH3? It's a gaseous substance used as household cleanser, among other things. It's long evaporated by the time anything gets used, which is why it is used to sanitize kitchens, etc. Actually you probably don't want to know where urea comes from and how it is used in agriculture, food processing and industry. And heaven forbid that you investigate all the stuff that goes into perfumes.
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No, I don't eat ice cream. I don't have many things by way of "treats" at all. I put in a reply above that I have someone double check the ingredients on things that I eat that are not fresh. Turns out lots of things you don't know are in things we eat normally... like jello having horse parts in it, etc. Can never be too careful these days. I'm sure there are things that I am missing, but I think overall I do a pretty good job of watching what goes into my body.
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loctrice wrote:
like jello having horse parts in it
Actually it rarely has horse parts in it, because more likely it's made from pigs, cattle or fish, as is all gelatin. Even the gelatin that goes into gummybears and marshmallows.
Collagen is one of the chief ingredients of gelatin. Collagen is a scleroprotein found in the bone, cartilage and tendons of animals. When animal bones or tissues are boiled, the collagen in the bone yields gelatin. Hence, getting straight to the point, you should know that gelatin can be obtained only from animal tissues. There is a widespread misconception that gelatin is obtained from horse hooves, which is incorrect. Horse hooves or bones are never used in the production process of gelatin. Tissues of pigs, cattle and fish are prominently used in order to obtain gelatin.
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When I read this[^] I don't eat meat, and havent for some time now. But I used to, and I still almost vromitted.
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Dammit! Now I know why my cat’s food is so expensive. The little buggers at schools eat all the stuff thus increasing the demand!
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So, can I assume you've never spent much time on a farm or ranch where the stuff comes from in the first place? And what is so revolting about NH3? It's a gaseous substance used as household cleanser, among other things. It's long evaporated by the time anything gets used, which is why it is used to sanitize kitchens, etc. Actually you probably don't want to know where urea comes from and how it is used in agriculture, food processing and industry. And heaven forbid that you investigate all the stuff that goes into perfumes.
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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
Sorry, bad phrasing on my part. Didn't mean to say ammonia is revolting. Couldn't care less about that. Only the slime. I'm also aware ranches aren't the most hygienic places. Manure everywhere is a given. However the meat I eat, from the animals raised there, is unlikely to be contaminated until butchering. I take issue with scraps which are mostly likely to be exposed to manure ending up in my meal. Guess I'm just funny that way. -- Ian
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So, can I assume you've never spent much time on a farm or ranch where the stuff comes from in the first place? And what is so revolting about NH3? It's a gaseous substance used as household cleanser, among other things. It's long evaporated by the time anything gets used, which is why it is used to sanitize kitchens, etc. Actually you probably don't want to know where urea comes from and how it is used in agriculture, food processing and industry. And heaven forbid that you investigate all the stuff that goes into perfumes.
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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
When I were a lad, I had a science fair project in which I grew plants (sunflowers?) with the addition of a few types of substances in varying quantities. IIRC, the ammonia produced the best results.
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When I were a lad, I had a science fair project in which I grew plants (sunflowers?) with the addition of a few types of substances in varying quantities. IIRC, the ammonia produced the best results.
AspDotNetDev wrote:
I grew plants (sunflowers**?**)
Yes, sunflowers are plants. :-D
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When I were a lad, I had a science fair project in which I grew plants (sunflowers?) with the addition of a few types of substances in varying quantities. IIRC, the ammonia produced the best results.
No surprise, then, that most commercial fertilizers are or contain ammonia. The most common is ammonium nitrate. Just don't mix with hydrocarbons, but it does neat things when mixed with food preservative (sodium nitrite)!
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I try to get mostly fresh foods. Although I do get the packaged stuff from lean quizine, morning star, and smart ones. I have a friend of mine who double checks all the ingredient lists to make sure I'm not eating preservatives, additives, etc. I definately don't eat out. This just supports my reasoning.
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loctrice wrote:
lean quizine
:laugh:
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I have a similar problem with my daughter. It seems like any time we let her out of our sight someone takes her to mcdonalds..... wtf?....
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Report it. That's child abuse! :laugh: (Or adult abuse if it's your daughters idea)
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Yeah some of the things are insane. Its mind boggling really. And the regulations are a bit nutz as well. Crushed up beatles are used for food coloring... "Natural Food Coloring" by FDA standards... Well I guess its natural. But still. Gross. I try not to think about it. I watch what I eat somewhat but I am not "anal" (haha.. beaver) about it. The only way to know for sure is grow it and raise it yourself. And I am not about to do that. Its unfortunate how complicated the food industry has gotten but at the same time I can always get strawberries at the supermarket. Yep, I am quite certain they were sprayed to all heck with pesticides and had the seeds genetically engineered to have a longer shelf life. But I want me strawberries in the mid of winter. So the ogranic nazis can elephant themselves. There is not nor will there ever be enough supply for everything to be "Truely Natural" (one should not have to define natural... But I think you know what I mean here)
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loctrice wrote:
lean quizine
:laugh:
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I agree, it's crazy. I'm not a nazi about it.. and you're right, I'm not about to grow my own stuff because I don't have the room or the time. I just try to be careful
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Yep, that is good practice. I have certain rules. For example, I do not buy meat from Walmart. I know their vendors cut corners for electrical components to keep the price down. I do not really want to know what the food vendors are doing (or not doing) to keep it cheap.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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loctrice wrote:
.... I don't get it....?
Oh, sorry. It's spelled cuisine.
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
