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  • R Roger Wright

    Over the years I've seen numerous hosting services touted here, and the favored one changes from time to time. So I'm curious - who provides the best hosting value these days? Personally, I've been using webhost4life.com for a while, and I'm quite happy with the service and value. But I'm preparing a new site for my company, and since I've taken up the task of approving all invoices before payment, I've become aware that our current host is charging a whopping $216/ month for a trivial HTML site of a dozen pages or so. That's $2592 a year for less than I get for about $120 a year at webhost4life! Another place I've recently learned about charges $6.95/mo or $84 a year, bluehost.com, and as far as I can tell, they offer even more services than my personal site provides. That's a heck of a range!!! So, what is the favorite among them who make them go this season? Yup, I'm asking you, the professionals who build the sites. I certainly can't justify sticking with the current provider at these rates, but haven't enough current information to make an informed decision. Opinions?

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    effayqueue
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    what else is your current host doing? sounds like they might be the web developers, and might be supporting / maintaining the codebase. But still sounds like a lot. rackspace cloud is good for when you may want a few sites and don't need blistering speed. eukhost is good for support; memset are good for bespoke service..

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    • R Roger Wright

      Over the years I've seen numerous hosting services touted here, and the favored one changes from time to time. So I'm curious - who provides the best hosting value these days? Personally, I've been using webhost4life.com for a while, and I'm quite happy with the service and value. But I'm preparing a new site for my company, and since I've taken up the task of approving all invoices before payment, I've become aware that our current host is charging a whopping $216/ month for a trivial HTML site of a dozen pages or so. That's $2592 a year for less than I get for about $120 a year at webhost4life! Another place I've recently learned about charges $6.95/mo or $84 a year, bluehost.com, and as far as I can tell, they offer even more services than my personal site provides. That's a heck of a range!!! So, what is the favorite among them who make them go this season? Yup, I'm asking you, the professionals who build the sites. I certainly can't justify sticking with the current provider at these rates, but haven't enough current information to make an informed decision. Opinions?

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      gavindon
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      I have quite a few sites(two personal and 10 company) on GoDaddy. While I do not try to claim they are better than company xyz, I can say that I have personally and professionally had no issues with them(yet at least) and they tend to be cheap. Actually I will claim they are better than dreamhost....we are in the process of moving our last couple of sites away from that nightmare.

      Common sense is not a gift it's a curse. Those of us who have it have to deal with those that don't.... Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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      • R Roger Wright

        Over the years I've seen numerous hosting services touted here, and the favored one changes from time to time. So I'm curious - who provides the best hosting value these days? Personally, I've been using webhost4life.com for a while, and I'm quite happy with the service and value. But I'm preparing a new site for my company, and since I've taken up the task of approving all invoices before payment, I've become aware that our current host is charging a whopping $216/ month for a trivial HTML site of a dozen pages or so. That's $2592 a year for less than I get for about $120 a year at webhost4life! Another place I've recently learned about charges $6.95/mo or $84 a year, bluehost.com, and as far as I can tell, they offer even more services than my personal site provides. That's a heck of a range!!! So, what is the favorite among them who make them go this season? Yup, I'm asking you, the professionals who build the sites. I certainly can't justify sticking with the current provider at these rates, but haven't enough current information to make an informed decision. Opinions?

        Will Rogers never met me.

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        AspDotNetDev
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        If you can get onto Windows Azure, do it. Things are a bit different than normal sites, but most differences are minor (especially if you just have a simple HTML site). Pricing starts at $15/month for a an extra small (virtual) machine. You will also have to pay for bandwidth, which starts at $1.20/month for 10GB. You will likely also need a database, which is $5 for the first 100MB, or $10 for the first 1GB, and the price per GB goes down from there. There are is also blob storage and some other more sophisticated things, but you are not likely to need those. So for a typical website, you're looking at $21.20/month total. You can find out more about pricing here. I have tried GoDaddy, iPower, and Planet Small Business and I can't recommend any of them. Windows Azure is where it's at.

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          If you can get onto Windows Azure, do it. Things are a bit different than normal sites, but most differences are minor (especially if you just have a simple HTML site). Pricing starts at $15/month for a an extra small (virtual) machine. You will also have to pay for bandwidth, which starts at $1.20/month for 10GB. You will likely also need a database, which is $5 for the first 100MB, or $10 for the first 1GB, and the price per GB goes down from there. There are is also blob storage and some other more sophisticated things, but you are not likely to need those. So for a typical website, you're looking at $21.20/month total. You can find out more about pricing here. I have tried GoDaddy, iPower, and Planet Small Business and I can't recommend any of them. Windows Azure is where it's at.

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          Here are some observations I've made while testing Azure:

          • Extra small machines get 768MB of memory, 20GB of disk space, and 5 Mbps of bandwidth
          • Your Azure solution can contain a normal web project and an Azure project. This allows your website to run inside the "cloud" or normally, assuming you have coded it properly.
          • You can increase the number of machines your website is on at any time. It costs $0.02/hour for the extra small. You can also pay more for beefier machines with more resources.
          • You can programmatically control the number of machines. So, for example, you could automatically increase the number of machines when load is high.
          • You can run Umbraco 5.0.1 on Azure. The instructions suck, but it's possible. This theoretically makes it trivial to run hundreds of websites with unique URL's on the same hosting subscription at no extra charge.
          • Blob storage allows you to expand your file storage capacity.
          • Worker roles allow you to run "jobs", which can be hard to do on normal web hosting.
          • Last I checked, Microsoft was offering a free 3-month trial for Azure (I'm on that now). You can also cap it so that, if you exceed the usage limits for the free subscription, the site will shut down rather than cause you to be charged.

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            what else is your current host doing? sounds like they might be the web developers, and might be supporting / maintaining the codebase. But still sounds like a lot. rackspace cloud is good for when you may want a few sites and don't need blistering speed. eukhost is good for support; memset are good for bespoke service..

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            Roger Wright
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            Way back in the mists of time, around 2003 or so, they were the only company to provide hosting services that the previous management knew of, and they were trying to bring the first broadband service into the area from Las Vegas, NV. Since then, the company has been sold several times to ever larger conglomerates, but little has changed. The original purpose was to obtain email addresses for the office staff, and it wasn't until 2007 that a secretary here banged out the first website and posted it to the space we'd been paying for all those years. All the company does for us is provide hosting and about 20 email addresses - nothing else. I could do that much on my Windows 2000 Server box at home, and for all the traffic we have, a dialup connection would be perfectly acceptable. In fact, my cell phone could probably host the site.

            Will Rogers never met me.

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              I have quite a few sites(two personal and 10 company) on GoDaddy. While I do not try to claim they are better than company xyz, I can say that I have personally and professionally had no issues with them(yet at least) and they tend to be cheap. Actually I will claim they are better than dreamhost....we are in the process of moving our last couple of sites away from that nightmare.

              Common sense is not a gift it's a curse. Those of us who have it have to deal with those that don't.... Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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              Roger Wright
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              That's one place I won't consider, having had a few problems caused by GoDaddy - some really major ones related to them refusing to implement real email standards and do their own thing. Their stupidity and refusal to follow the industry cost us a bunch a few years ago, and left a bad taste in everyone's mouths around here. But they are very reasonably priced... :)

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              • R Roger Wright

                Way back in the mists of time, around 2003 or so, they were the only company to provide hosting services that the previous management knew of, and they were trying to bring the first broadband service into the area from Las Vegas, NV. Since then, the company has been sold several times to ever larger conglomerates, but little has changed. The original purpose was to obtain email addresses for the office staff, and it wasn't until 2007 that a secretary here banged out the first website and posted it to the space we'd been paying for all those years. All the company does for us is provide hosting and about 20 email addresses - nothing else. I could do that much on my Windows 2000 Server box at home, and for all the traffic we have, a dialup connection would be perfectly acceptable. In fact, my cell phone could probably host the site.

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                AspDotNetDev
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                While I can't recommend them, that would cost you about $6/month on GoDaddy or $5/month on Planet Small Business. Your company is being screwed royally.

                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                • A AspDotNetDev

                  Here are some observations I've made while testing Azure:

                  • Extra small machines get 768MB of memory, 20GB of disk space, and 5 Mbps of bandwidth
                  • Your Azure solution can contain a normal web project and an Azure project. This allows your website to run inside the "cloud" or normally, assuming you have coded it properly.
                  • You can increase the number of machines your website is on at any time. It costs $0.02/hour for the extra small. You can also pay more for beefier machines with more resources.
                  • You can programmatically control the number of machines. So, for example, you could automatically increase the number of machines when load is high.
                  • You can run Umbraco 5.0.1 on Azure. The instructions suck, but it's possible. This theoretically makes it trivial to run hundreds of websites with unique URL's on the same hosting subscription at no extra charge.
                  • Blob storage allows you to expand your file storage capacity.
                  • Worker roles allow you to run "jobs", which can be hard to do on normal web hosting.
                  • Last I checked, Microsoft was offering a free 3-month trial for Azure (I'm on that now). You can also cap it so that, if you exceed the usage limits for the free subscription, the site will shut down rather than cause you to be charged.

                  Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                  Roger Wright
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                  Hmmm... One thing I will never do is entrust anything important to Azure, simply because I don't understand it, and don't want to. I don't agree with SAS, will not use any Live service, and I certainly don't have any interest in trying to learn another Microsoft fad interface/technology in order to accomplish what I already know how to do. It does sound like an ideal solution for some, but we're not among the group. Thanks, though. It sounds like you're having fun with it, and that's important! :-D

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    Over the years I've seen numerous hosting services touted here, and the favored one changes from time to time. So I'm curious - who provides the best hosting value these days? Personally, I've been using webhost4life.com for a while, and I'm quite happy with the service and value. But I'm preparing a new site for my company, and since I've taken up the task of approving all invoices before payment, I've become aware that our current host is charging a whopping $216/ month for a trivial HTML site of a dozen pages or so. That's $2592 a year for less than I get for about $120 a year at webhost4life! Another place I've recently learned about charges $6.95/mo or $84 a year, bluehost.com, and as far as I can tell, they offer even more services than my personal site provides. That's a heck of a range!!! So, what is the favorite among them who make them go this season? Yup, I'm asking you, the professionals who build the sites. I certainly can't justify sticking with the current provider at these rates, but haven't enough current information to make an informed decision. Opinions?

                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                    RobCroll
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                    DiscountASP, they provide good support for Microsoft technology and are well priced.

                    "You get that on the big jobs."

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                    • R RobCroll

                      DiscountASP, they provide good support for Microsoft technology and are well priced.

                      "You get that on the big jobs."

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                      Roger Wright
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                      I'll check it out, Rob. Thanks!

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                      • R Roger Wright

                        Over the years I've seen numerous hosting services touted here, and the favored one changes from time to time. So I'm curious - who provides the best hosting value these days? Personally, I've been using webhost4life.com for a while, and I'm quite happy with the service and value. But I'm preparing a new site for my company, and since I've taken up the task of approving all invoices before payment, I've become aware that our current host is charging a whopping $216/ month for a trivial HTML site of a dozen pages or so. That's $2592 a year for less than I get for about $120 a year at webhost4life! Another place I've recently learned about charges $6.95/mo or $84 a year, bluehost.com, and as far as I can tell, they offer even more services than my personal site provides. That's a heck of a range!!! So, what is the favorite among them who make them go this season? Yup, I'm asking you, the professionals who build the sites. I certainly can't justify sticking with the current provider at these rates, but haven't enough current information to make an informed decision. Opinions?

                        Will Rogers never met me.

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        I've been with BizHostNet[^] for several years and service is good and at $60/year you can't go wrong and the rates haven't gone up since I've started using them.

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                          I've been with BizHostNet[^] for several years and service is good and at $60/year you can't go wrong and the rates haven't gone up since I've started using them.

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                          Roger Wright
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                          That's excellent pricing! I'll take a look at it. Thanks, Mike. :-D

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                            Hmmm... One thing I will never do is entrust anything important to Azure, simply because I don't understand it, and don't want to. I don't agree with SAS, will not use any Live service, and I certainly don't have any interest in trying to learn another Microsoft fad interface/technology in order to accomplish what I already know how to do. It does sound like an ideal solution for some, but we're not among the group. Thanks, though. It sounds like you're having fun with it, and that's important! :-D

                            Will Rogers never met me.

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                            AspDotNetDev
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                            Yep, I'm working on building a website for a business that may need load balanced servers if it becomes as popular as I'm hoping it will become. :-D

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                            • R Roger Wright

                              That's one place I won't consider, having had a few problems caused by GoDaddy - some really major ones related to them refusing to implement real email standards and do their own thing. Their stupidity and refusal to follow the industry cost us a bunch a few years ago, and left a bad taste in everyone's mouths around here. But they are very reasonably priced... :)

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                              gavindon
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                              ah, we have our own email server so don't use any webmail so was not aware of that.. will keep it in mind for future

                              Common sense is not a gift it's a curse. Those of us who have it have to deal with those that don't.... Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.

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                              • R Roger Wright

                                Over the years I've seen numerous hosting services touted here, and the favored one changes from time to time. So I'm curious - who provides the best hosting value these days? Personally, I've been using webhost4life.com for a while, and I'm quite happy with the service and value. But I'm preparing a new site for my company, and since I've taken up the task of approving all invoices before payment, I've become aware that our current host is charging a whopping $216/ month for a trivial HTML site of a dozen pages or so. That's $2592 a year for less than I get for about $120 a year at webhost4life! Another place I've recently learned about charges $6.95/mo or $84 a year, bluehost.com, and as far as I can tell, they offer even more services than my personal site provides. That's a heck of a range!!! So, what is the favorite among them who make them go this season? Yup, I'm asking you, the professionals who build the sites. I certainly can't justify sticking with the current provider at these rates, but haven't enough current information to make an informed decision. Opinions?

                                Will Rogers never met me.

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                                bryce
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                                Wotcha Wogger i used webhost4life and i also use powweb for simple stuff Bryce

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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  Over the years I've seen numerous hosting services touted here, and the favored one changes from time to time. So I'm curious - who provides the best hosting value these days? Personally, I've been using webhost4life.com for a while, and I'm quite happy with the service and value. But I'm preparing a new site for my company, and since I've taken up the task of approving all invoices before payment, I've become aware that our current host is charging a whopping $216/ month for a trivial HTML site of a dozen pages or so. That's $2592 a year for less than I get for about $120 a year at webhost4life! Another place I've recently learned about charges $6.95/mo or $84 a year, bluehost.com, and as far as I can tell, they offer even more services than my personal site provides. That's a heck of a range!!! So, what is the favorite among them who make them go this season? Yup, I'm asking you, the professionals who build the sites. I certainly can't justify sticking with the current provider at these rates, but haven't enough current information to make an informed decision. Opinions?

                                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                                  ied
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                                  I've been using powweb.com for years. You can even point multiple different domains at the same account. Got 1 site? That's $6.95/mo. Got 20 sites? That'd be, um... $6.95/mo. There's a page for assigning each domain to a different subdirectory. -- Ian

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                                  • R Roger Wright

                                    Over the years I've seen numerous hosting services touted here, and the favored one changes from time to time. So I'm curious - who provides the best hosting value these days? Personally, I've been using webhost4life.com for a while, and I'm quite happy with the service and value. But I'm preparing a new site for my company, and since I've taken up the task of approving all invoices before payment, I've become aware that our current host is charging a whopping $216/ month for a trivial HTML site of a dozen pages or so. That's $2592 a year for less than I get for about $120 a year at webhost4life! Another place I've recently learned about charges $6.95/mo or $84 a year, bluehost.com, and as far as I can tell, they offer even more services than my personal site provides. That's a heck of a range!!! So, what is the favorite among them who make them go this season? Yup, I'm asking you, the professionals who build the sites. I certainly can't justify sticking with the current provider at these rates, but haven't enough current information to make an informed decision. Opinions?

                                    Will Rogers never met me.

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                                    Mycroft Holmes
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                                    I'll stick in a vote for Arvixe, they do a good job and the support is quite good. Personal class at $4 a month will service your requirements. They were subject to an extortion attempt last year, DDOS brought the servers down for a couple of days but it seems to have been mitigated so the next time they will have the procedures in place to deal with the problem.

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    • R Roger Wright

                                      Over the years I've seen numerous hosting services touted here, and the favored one changes from time to time. So I'm curious - who provides the best hosting value these days? Personally, I've been using webhost4life.com for a while, and I'm quite happy with the service and value. But I'm preparing a new site for my company, and since I've taken up the task of approving all invoices before payment, I've become aware that our current host is charging a whopping $216/ month for a trivial HTML site of a dozen pages or so. That's $2592 a year for less than I get for about $120 a year at webhost4life! Another place I've recently learned about charges $6.95/mo or $84 a year, bluehost.com, and as far as I can tell, they offer even more services than my personal site provides. That's a heck of a range!!! So, what is the favorite among them who make them go this season? Yup, I'm asking you, the professionals who build the sites. I certainly can't justify sticking with the current provider at these rates, but haven't enough current information to make an informed decision. Opinions?

                                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                                      Ravi Bhavnani
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                                      I've been using Web66[^] (for professional hosting) for 15 years - love 'em! :cool: /ravi

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                                        I've been with BizHostNet[^] for several years and service is good and at $60/year you can't go wrong and the rates haven't gone up since I've started using them.

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                                        That is the best of the lot, I think. Thanks, Mike! :-D

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                                          That is the best of the lot, I think. Thanks, Mike! :-D

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                                          You are welcome Roger glad it worked out for y'all.

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