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What the F is wrong with my keyboard?

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Sounds like it has switched to a French / Belgian layout - AZERTY is the top row, and "M" is next to "L" Check what layouts you have loaded and delete the ones you don't need: it's somewhere in Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Languages IIRC

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    Wjousts
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    I thought that too, but it isn't system-wide. It seems to effect one application at a time. So, for example, Firefox might be working fine, but Visual Studio is acting wacky. I restart Visual Studio and now it's fine too. Then maybe some time later (maybe hours, maybe days), a different application will start acting up.

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      Are you typing with your mouth full of Toblerone again? ;)

      Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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      Well, this fine quality Swiss Easter Egg isn't going to eat itself you know! ;P

      "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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        Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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        Septimus Hedgehog
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        Sounds like someone wants a new laptop. Coffee first and then a faulty keyboard. Have you tried "dropping" a 10Kg hammer on it? Perhaps slip it under the wheels of a train? ;)

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Are you typing with your mouth full of Toblerone again? ;)

          Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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          Dalek Dave
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          Griff, trust me, that isn't Toblerone!

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          • W Wjousts

            I thought that too, but it isn't system-wide. It seems to effect one application at a time. So, for example, Firefox might be working fine, but Visual Studio is acting wacky. I restart Visual Studio and now it's fine too. Then maybe some time later (maybe hours, maybe days), a different application will start acting up.

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            OriginalGriff
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            Windows keyboard layouts don't have to be system wide - they can be application specific (and normally by language the app was installed in). And the default key for switching keyboard language is pretty easy to hit: Left SHIFT + ALT. Try disabling that sequence via Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Change Keyboards and see if the problem goes away.

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            • W Wjousts

              Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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              S Houghtelin
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              Wjousts wrote:

              It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back.

              :doh: OR maybe it was the alignment of the Moon, Venus and Jupiter in the western sky last month...

              It was broke, so I fixed it.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Windows keyboard layouts don't have to be system wide - they can be application specific (and normally by language the app was installed in). And the default key for switching keyboard language is pretty easy to hit: Left SHIFT + ALT. Try disabling that sequence via Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Change Keyboards and see if the problem goes away.

                Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water

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                Wjousts
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                Wow! I can't believe I didn't know that. I bet I've done it while alt-tabbing between windows (and some time alt-shift-tabbing to go backwards). The problem was that I had a French keyboard "installed" from when I was messing around with language settings to test a . vs , issue. I removed it from the list of installed keyboards and now it won't switch even with alt-shift. Cheers!

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                • S Septimus Hedgehog

                  Sounds like someone wants a new laptop. Coffee first and then a faulty keyboard. Have you tried "dropping" a 10Kg hammer on it? Perhaps slip it under the wheels of a train? ;)

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                  Wjousts
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                  I would. But after it survived the tea bath I gave it, I kinda have new found respect for the tough little bugger. If only it wouldn't randomly freeze up for a few seconds every once in a while!

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                  • W Wjousts

                    Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    Back in the days of DOS, I wrote a TSR program that would do just about what you said: Intermittently change keystrokes. I particularly targeted the 'd' and 'r' keys, causing them to appear like fat-finger mistypes: d->f or s; r->e or t. So, just sayin' - it could be a little software mischeif, as well.

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                    • W Wjousts

                      Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                      Rajesh R Subramanian
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                      You're pressing the key combination that toggles the input language (and/or the keyboard layout). This combination is usually : Left Alt + Left Shift. If you choose the option to see language bar on your desktop, you can confirm this assumption that the input language has changed to something else (presumably EN-GB).

                      Wjousts wrote:

                      suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open.

                      The input language switch happens on process basis, and this behaviour is by design. The reason is that if I'm drafting something in Tamil language in notepad, I wouldn't want to see Tamil glyphs being typed if I just switch to Firefox for a moment and type something there. If you're not using any language other than EN-US, then go to control panel and remove the input languages that you aren't using.

                      "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                      • D DeathByChocolate

                        Well, this fine quality Swiss Easter Egg isn't going to eat itself you know! ;P

                        "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian
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                        Assuming that your claims here are actually true, I'd think that except for when you're eating chocolates, you'd pretty much spend the rest of your time on a treadmill. :)

                        "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                        • D DeathByChocolate

                          No proglems zere! ;)

                          "State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful" Chris C-B

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                          Henry Minute
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                          Repeat after me: "Gottle of geer." "Gottle of geer." "Gottle of geer." "Gottle of geer." "Vust get Henry a gottle of geer."

                          Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                            Assuming that your claims here are actually true, I'd think that except for when you're eating chocolates, you'd pretty much spend the rest of your time on a treadmill. :)

                            "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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                            DeathByChocolate
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                            You have outed me! Truth is I hardly ever eat chocolate ... I love it but I just have a little from time to time - otherwise a whole new wardrobe would be required, if you know what I mean. :rolleyes: ... but I like to dream! :-O :-D

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                              Griff, trust me, that isn't Toblerone!

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                              DeathByChocolate
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                              You can't beat the knobbly bits on a Toblerone! ;P

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                              • W Wjousts

                                Wow! I can't believe I didn't know that. I bet I've done it while alt-tabbing between windows (and some time alt-shift-tabbing to go backwards). The problem was that I had a French keyboard "installed" from when I was messing around with language settings to test a . vs , issue. I removed it from the list of installed keyboards and now it won't switch even with alt-shift. Cheers!

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                                Lost User
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                                Yep, isn't it astonishing that a stateful change can be made using only modifier keys and that this is on be DEFAULT. AND those modifier keys are part of several well-established key sequences already. Dumb as you like.

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                                • W Wjousts

                                  Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                                  Wendelius
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                                  If not already posted, not that pressing left shift and alt simultaneously toggles between keyboard layouts. I often do this by mistake :)

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                                  • W Wjousts

                                    Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                                    Wjousts wrote:

                                    and my : was coming out as an M?

                                    I bet it really hurts when something other that ! or | comes out of your :

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                                      Repeat after me: "Gottle of geer." "Gottle of geer." "Gottle of geer." "Gottle of geer." "Vust get Henry a gottle of geer."

                                      Henry Minute Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus! When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is. Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.

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                                      99 gottles of geer on ze vall, 99 gottles of geer; take vun doon, pass it aroond, 98 gottles of geer on ze vall! 99 gottles of geer on ze vall, 98 gottles of geer; take vun doon, pass it aroond, 97 gottles of geer on ze vall! ...

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                                      • W Wjousts

                                        Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                                        Vivi Chellappa
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                                        Wjousts wrote:

                                        It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back [Coffee]

                                        Spilling :beer: would explain the kind of behavior you describe, but tea?

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                                        • W Wjousts

                                          Just lately my work laptop has intermittently taken to suddenly changing it's keyboard layout. But it's not system-wide, it usually happens to a single (different) application I have open. For example, I just restarted Firefox because my W has coming out as a Z and my : was coming out as an M? All my other applications seemed to be fine. It's absolutely baffling. Has anybody else seen anything like this? I've already asked for a new laptop, but since we are about to upgrade (finally) to Windows 7 (from XP), I'm holding out for a brand new Windows 7 laptop rather than have them give me an XP laptop and then upgrade it again a week or two later. My current laptop is truly on it's last legs. It probably didn't help when I spilt a nearly full cup of tea over it a few months back :java:

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          I had a similar problem with Chinese. It turned out to be a Java setting, which, naturally, only affected Java apps. If that's the problem, I can look up how i fixed it, or you can just browse for Java language settings (but don't accept the first and most repeated "solution" returned, because it's high-level crap that doesn't change anything). [edit] you can check to see if Java is the problem by opening the Java applet in Control Panel. If the keyboard goes wonky there, Java's probably the problem.

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