Is this mere superstition ?
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They were expensive and rare, certainly, but it was worth every drachma. Books then were a lot lighter than the clay tablets we used in school.
Will Rogers never met me.
Clay tablets already were an improvement over painting things on cave walls. Did you ever try to carry your cave around with you? But it took a few thousand years to get from cave walls to clay tablets because some other projects had higher priority, like developing better weapons than simple clubs.
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I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?
L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich NietzscheDo you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.
Sahir Shah wrote:
rationalist part of my mind
Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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Clay tablets already were an improvement over painting things on cave walls. Did you ever try to carry your cave around with you? But it took a few thousand years to get from cave walls to clay tablets because some other projects had higher priority, like developing better weapons than simple clubs.
I'm invincible, I can't be vinced
That wheel thingy looked interesting. Did the committee ever work out the details? I bet that we could have used that to carry caves.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.
Sahir Shah wrote:
rationalist part of my mind
Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
VuNic wrote:
I'll agree if asked by someone in the west.
Those little barbarians... :)
VuNic wrote:
Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you?
We barbarians are extremely practical about such things, especially when stepping onto the books somehow solves a problem at hand. Our ancestors already were like that and not being struck down by Odin or Thor just encouraged them to keep it that way.
VuNic wrote:
To me every book is means the same.
Let me send you some stuff our marketing guys put on paper.
I'm invincible, I can't be vinced
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Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.
Sahir Shah wrote:
rationalist part of my mind
Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
Some books are meant to be stepped on; some authors deserve to be burned atop a pyre of their own writings. My Statistics textbook is one example. Not all things written and published are sacred; a lot of crap manages to get by the filter of good sense and taste, only to find its way to a bookshelf home it doesn't deserve. Reverence for the printed word is respectable; I, for one, have never made a mark in a book or folded a corner of a page - both are criminal acts, to my mind. But being an expert doesn't make one a writer, and many books are published these days which are deserving of no respect whatsoever. I refuse to sell my Statistics book back to the bookstore, because I cannot, in good conscience, allow it to fall into the hands of another innocent victim. When I'm done with the class in a few weeks, I plan to aerate it by making holes in it with an AK-47, so that it will burn more efficiently. No student should ever again be required to wade through this heap of crap; the authors may be fine statisticians, but they're not writers or educators, and their work does not deserve to be on anyone's required list.
Will Rogers never met me.
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VuNic wrote:
I'll agree if asked by someone in the west.
Those little barbarians... :)
VuNic wrote:
Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you?
We barbarians are extremely practical about such things, especially when stepping onto the books somehow solves a problem at hand. Our ancestors already were like that and not being struck down by Odin or Thor just encouraged them to keep it that way.
VuNic wrote:
To me every book is means the same.
Let me send you some stuff our marketing guys put on paper.
I'm invincible, I can't be vinced
:laugh: :laugh: I agree completely! :-D
Will Rogers never met me.
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Some books are meant to be stepped on; some authors deserve to be burned atop a pyre of their own writings. My Statistics textbook is one example. Not all things written and published are sacred; a lot of crap manages to get by the filter of good sense and taste, only to find its way to a bookshelf home it doesn't deserve. Reverence for the printed word is respectable; I, for one, have never made a mark in a book or folded a corner of a page - both are criminal acts, to my mind. But being an expert doesn't make one a writer, and many books are published these days which are deserving of no respect whatsoever. I refuse to sell my Statistics book back to the bookstore, because I cannot, in good conscience, allow it to fall into the hands of another innocent victim. When I'm done with the class in a few weeks, I plan to aerate it by making holes in it with an AK-47, so that it will burn more efficiently. No student should ever again be required to wade through this heap of crap; the authors may be fine statisticians, but they're not writers or educators, and their work does not deserve to be on anyone's required list.
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
Some books are meant to be stepped on; some authors deserve to be burned atop a pyre of their own writings.
I agree, anyone that can spell can write a book and it doesn't make them a scholar or the book worth reading.
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Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.
Sahir Shah wrote:
rationalist part of my mind
Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
Seriously, this is just fetishising books as objects, blown up to look like wisdom "look at the reverence we give to dead mashed trees because they contain learning". What they contain is important, and not all books are equal in that respect either.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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That wheel thingy looked interesting. Did the committee ever work out the details? I bet that we could have used that to carry caves.
Will Rogers never met me.
As far as I know they looked at two other solutions: Some people tried to replace caves with simple constructions made out of sticks and leather hides. The idea was to put together the sticks in a certain way and then cover them with the hides. It kindof worked until it got windy and the 'cave' was blown away. That led to another version made out of whole trees or even stone. Those could not be blown away that easily anymore, but it also was far too heavy to carry around with you.
I'm invincible, I can't be vinced
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Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.
Sahir Shah wrote:
rationalist part of my mind
Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
Feel free to step on the Twilight books, or anything by Dan Brown.
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As far as I know they looked at two other solutions: Some people tried to replace caves with simple constructions made out of sticks and leather hides. The idea was to put together the sticks in a certain way and then cover them with the hides. It kindof worked until it got windy and the 'cave' was blown away. That led to another version made out of whole trees or even stone. Those could not be blown away that easily anymore, but it also was far too heavy to carry around with you.
I'm invincible, I can't be vinced
You think you've got problems: try working out your calves with a Kindle, no matter how many books I download my legs still look two beanpoles in a staring contest.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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Seriously, this is just fetishising books as objects, blown up to look like wisdom "look at the reverence we give to dead mashed trees because they contain learning". What they contain is important, and not all books are equal in that respect either.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]At least we should know a little more about the nature of information and its independence of any recording media. :) And even if we want to be religious about it - how does respecting the bottle help when you think that wine is the most important thing in the world?
I'm invincible, I can't be vinced
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You think you've got problems: try working out your calves with a Kindle, no matter how many books I download my legs still look two beanpoles in a staring contest.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]See! Then throw away the Kindle and go back to recording things on cave walls. If your legs need some training, you can always try to step onto the rock in which the cave is located. And don't try it with the portable stick and hide cave.
I'm invincible, I can't be vinced
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Sahir Shah wrote:
"Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup".
:) No that's where you're going wroing, you need a copy of "Learning VB.net in 21 days". That should do the job nicely ;)
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Sahir Shah wrote:
"Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup".
:) No that's where you're going wroing, you need a copy of "Learning VB.net in 21 days". That should do the job nicely ;)
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I still have a copy of VB6 in 21 days. Anyone in my house know that any of the books on my book rack shall not be touched. That first book is the reason I am today on this site ;P
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I still have a copy of VB6 in 21 days. Anyone in my house know that any of the books on my book rack shall not be touched. That first book is the reason I am today on this site
...instead of sunbathing on a massive yacht with a bikini-clad supermodel bringing you another cold, cold beer.
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Do you need someone's advice on this? I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed to know, you do know how much respect we give to books. Or any thing for that matter. Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you? To me every book is means the same.
Sahir Shah wrote:
rationalist part of my mind
Make that as "damaged" excuse me if I'm over reacting. But I JUST hate what you've posted.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
VuNic wrote:
I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed
I did not say "India", I said "Kerala". There's a sea of difference there. We are bigger barbarians than the westerners and have the second highest per capita booze consumption in the world (first place respectfully conceded to Russia) ;P .......hic :zzz:
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche
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VuNic wrote:
I'll agree if asked by someone in the west.
Those little barbarians... :)
VuNic wrote:
Will you step on a Quran/Bible or whatever that is applicable to you?
We barbarians are extremely practical about such things, especially when stepping onto the books somehow solves a problem at hand. Our ancestors already were like that and not being struck down by Odin or Thor just encouraged them to keep it that way.
VuNic wrote:
To me every book is means the same.
Let me send you some stuff our marketing guys put on paper.
I'm invincible, I can't be vinced
lol my message was mistaken there. Or I should have put that in better words. I tried to say Western people think differently with lesser sentiments. You guys have a questioning attitude. You question every "Don't do". It differs from India. We simply accept what our ancestors had written down. That has it good as well as bad. But in context with the Stepping-On-Book thread, I'll go with what's preached to us in our country. Kicking a book is a bad idea you see. :rolleyes:
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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VuNic wrote:
I'll agree if asked by someone in the west. Who have different beliefs But you say you are from India and I'm amazed
I did not say "India", I said "Kerala". There's a sea of difference there. We are bigger barbarians than the westerners and have the second highest per capita booze consumption in the world (first place respectfully conceded to Russia) ;P .......hic :zzz:
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich Nietzsche
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I could not find a suitable block of wood to do a calf workout (it's done by placing your toes on a block of wood and raising your heels while holding a pair of heavy dumbells or a barbell) so I used a copy of "Inside Microsoft SQL Server 6.5 by Ron Soukup". It does the job. But I wasn't feeling too good about stepping on a book. It's part of our culture (Kerala) to treat all books with reverence and to never step on one. But the rationalist part of my mind says "what the heck it's about an old version of SQL Server anyway". I am a bit confused... Is it disrespectful to step on books ?
L'enfer, c'est les autres - Jean-Paul Sartre
Und wenn du lange in einen abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein - Friedrich NietzscheYou just have to be careful about whihc book you use. I once used a pop-up kamasutra, and it popped up, and my toes got caught in Oh, never mind. (And, yes, I do have that book.)
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