Are CRT Monitors dead?
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We still have a CRT TV at home [Hungariaorszag] but that will probably go soon.
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I replaced my 32" CRT TV at xmas with a 42" flatty. I now realise how small my old TV was in comparison. My next door neighbour nabbed my old one. I also realise that getting a 42" TV was a mistake. There are 60" ones available! (My wife would have a conniptic fit if I brought home a 60", she thinks the 42" is a little too big for our front room).
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
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My father sticks to his two 19" CRTs. Some time ago one of them got broken and he found out that no one wants to repair it. So, he bought "new" one for a half of price of decent 19" LCD. Any ideas for convincing him to switch to LCDs? :confused:
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
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Dalek Dave wrote:
final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke.
Well, yours is for sure. :-D As you know it's a matter of supply and demand. Flat panels look nicer are easier to move and the prices are now reasonable. They will build CRTs as replacement for certain installtions for some time but the costs will go up to purchase them.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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My father sticks to his two 19" CRTs. Some time ago one of them got broken and he found out that no one wants to repair it. So, he bought "new" one for a half of price of decent 19" LCD. Any ideas for convincing him to switch to LCDs? :confused:
Show him a 26" one and show the power consumption figures!
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
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I haven't seen any for a while now, but I believe they are used, especially where colour representation is important. I might be out of date, but the last I heard, CRT gives superior colour rendition than LCD or OLED. So photographers, animators, film and video production etc may have a niche market for them.
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Someone must need them. We had several in our attic. We put them out in the usual publicly accessible disposal so that there'd be a day or so before the trash haulers did just that. They were gone within the hour.
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I have about 25 of them in the attic here, only reason I have not hauled them down is its just to much dang work they are heavy as hell.
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
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I'm still on a CRT telly with a digibox but that is because I am too mean/poor to replace it till it breaks. I still have a 14"er tucked under the desk for emergency use even though I also have a spare 15" flat panel.
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
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I have a Viewsonic 19 inch at home. It still plays games better than any LCD you can buy (some cut scenes look better on my son's new laptop, but the action scenes still aren't as lovely and sometimes have an ever so faint ghosting and tearing.) The same model Viewsonic is sitting the corner of my ex-wife's living room since she just got a new laptop after the hard drive died in her ancient piece-of-crap HP desktop. Another one is sitting in my closet--it mostly works, but if the output voltage of the graphics card isn't high enough during boot, it will drop back into sleep mode. The only thing I really miss when I get home is the width of the screen and then I only really notice it when programming. I still with my last company let me buy a pair of 21 inch IPS Dell LCDs that I was using. They replaced them with new 22 inch LCDs, but I missed the color accuracy and richness of the IPS screens and switched them back. Speaking of which, has anyone used the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM; it's supposed to be an IPS monitor, but in the past Dell hasn't been entirely truthful about this. And if you have used this, do you get any ghosting in games?
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
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Shhhh, don't mention VCR's. Got two broken ones in my lounge going to the recycler and I'm seriously considering throwing the other one with them. Nothing wrong with it, just haven't used it in 5 years. :wtf:
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
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I still use a 21" CRT on a home system. Although it is mostly used for playing music, so the quality of the monitor is pretty unimportant. As well, I still have a 36" CRT TV that weighs close to 75 pounds and this is still used quite a bit. The last time I moved it, it took me and a buddy to carry it outside the house and down the hill to my backyard and into the basement. It was safer than trying to carry it down the stairs! :)
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I still use a 21" CRT on a home system. Although it is mostly used for playing music, so the quality of the monitor is pretty unimportant. As well, I still have a 36" CRT TV that weighs close to 75 pounds and this is still used quite a bit. The last time I moved it, it took me and a buddy to carry it outside the house and down the hill to my backyard and into the basement. It was safer than trying to carry it down the stairs! :)
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When I bought my first house my future brother-in-law came to help me shift some stuff out of my mum and dad's house. After much nagging from my mum I dusted and polished everything before moving it. Carrying my freshly polished, widescreen CRT TV down the stairs was a perilous exercise.
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The B&W feature would be awesome. :-D
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I replaced my 32" CRT TV at xmas with a 42" flatty. I now realise how small my old TV was in comparison. My next door neighbour nabbed my old one. I also realise that getting a 42" TV was a mistake. There are 60" ones available! (My wife would have a conniptic fit if I brought home a 60", she thinks the 42" is a little too big for our front room).
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You want to be careful about that. I heard a beautiful definition of working class vs. middle class. Working class - has a TV that's too big for their house Middle class - have a big enough house to fit said TV in
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
There may be some applications left where a CRT may still give a more accurate representation of the colors over a wider spectrum, but those will also disappear in time. Otherwise CRTs are by now only good for museum exhibits. Except for my monitor for my first computer of course. It's now almost 35 years old and still works as good as it used to :)
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
--------------------------------- I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC Link[^] English League Tables - Live
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Or indeed CRT TV's? Is it a dinosaur technology? I ask only because we have finally said goodbye to the last CRT monitor in the company. It was a venerable piece of kit, 16" of glorious colour in a beautiful 'Nicotine Yellow' plastic case. Weighing in at about 9 kilos and consuming as much power as a small Hebridean Island it has served its masters well until its final, exasperated, pop and the emission of a tiny puff of smoke. A new flat screen is sitting now in the vast acreage that was previously occupied by the monitor, and the smiling face of the elf as she now has more room to move! Does anybody even make CRT devices or have they gone the same way as the Video Recorder and the 8-track?
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No, certainly not! Magazine graphics artists still buy Sony Trinitron glass VDUs, as for the accurate colour gamut that lcds cannot even get anywhere near to close to covering. Thermionic technology lives, at lease in high-quality publishing houses, and photography studios. I still have a 21" HP (Trinitron based) VDU coupled with an expensive LCD (side-by-side) and the difference is astonishing. Even more so when one compares the final glossy printed page against the two. The CRT can accurately show all of the colours. The LCD is pale, lame, and way off by comparison. A niche market, but an important one.
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No, certainly not! Magazine graphics artists still buy Sony Trinitron glass VDUs, as for the accurate colour gamut that lcds cannot even get anywhere near to close to covering. Thermionic technology lives, at lease in high-quality publishing houses, and photography studios. I still have a 21" HP (Trinitron based) VDU coupled with an expensive LCD (side-by-side) and the difference is astonishing. Even more so when one compares the final glossy printed page against the two. The CRT can accurately show all of the colours. The LCD is pale, lame, and way off by comparison. A niche market, but an important one.
Yayy! some one agrees with me! The reason for the LCD, TFT (non CRT!) looking flat and lame is that there is a lack of colourimetry (or Colorimetry) done for non CRTs. The problem is each panel varies a little in tolerance where as the bulky old CRT this could be compensated with in the design with non CRT it can't. Also the life of the average non-CRT is around a quarter as the florescent tubes burn out much quicker! Glenn:java:
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Yayy! some one agrees with me! The reason for the LCD, TFT (non CRT!) looking flat and lame is that there is a lack of colourimetry (or Colorimetry) done for non CRTs. The problem is each panel varies a little in tolerance where as the bulky old CRT this could be compensated with in the design with non CRT it can't. Also the life of the average non-CRT is around a quarter as the florescent tubes burn out much quicker! Glenn:java:
That's not true. You can buy colorimters for $100-200 and use the results to make corrections at the OS level before outputting the video. NEC's higher end models can use the same data to reprogram internal lookup tables to improve on OS level corrections; they're preprogrammed at the factory to adjust for variations from one part of the panel to the other. IIRC NEC's licensed their onboard correction tech to at least one 3rd party for a 30" model.
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I haven't seen any for a while now, but I believe they are used, especially where colour representation is important. I might be out of date, but the last I heard, CRT gives superior colour rendition than LCD or OLED. So photographers, animators, film and video production etc may have a niche market for them.
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RChin wrote:
I might be out of date, but the last I heard, CRT gives superior colour rendition than LCD or OLED.
You are absolutely correct there. The newer technologies are digital and are therefore limited to discreet color levels, whereas a CRT is analog and has more or less has a continuos color range. e.g. integers vs real numbers in terms of color rendition. This shows up most noticeably in dark gradients. A good CRT also has much faster refresh rates, so for applications where you need much faster than 30-60 fps, a CRT is the way to go.