Bloody QA Testers
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Shooting is much too polite. Something that inflicts continuous pain for several weeks, is much more preferable. :)
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I just spent over an hour back and forth with a QA tester because they keep saying a value was not showing up in a dropdown list. Turns out it was a two word value and the requirements document they where looking at had placed a line break because of formatting. Despite me pointing where the values where in the database and the correct format, it was submitted as a defect because the document had it on a separate line. X|
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
Mark Nischalke wrote:
QA tester
I once worked with a guy that allegedly worked in SQA before joining our company. He thought that a good bug report consisted of "The text on the button is wrong"
Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy Please stand in front of my pistol, smile and wait for the flash - JSOP 2012
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Unless the QA document has 'TURN OVER' in large letters at the bottom of the page testing ends at page 1. :)
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
Step 1: Click button Step 2: Repeat step 1 That should put them into an infinite loop and stop the defect reports. :laugh:
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
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Mark Nischalke wrote:
QA tester
I once worked with a guy that allegedly worked in SQA before joining our company. He thought that a good bug report consisted of "The text on the button is wrong"
Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy Please stand in front of my pistol, smile and wait for the flash - JSOP 2012
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I just spent over an hour back and forth with a QA tester because they keep saying a value was not showing up in a dropdown list. Turns out it was a two word value and the requirements document they where looking at had placed a line break because of formatting. Despite me pointing where the values where in the database and the correct format, it was submitted as a defect because the document had it on a separate line. X|
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
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I just spent over an hour back and forth with a QA tester because they keep saying a value was not showing up in a dropdown list. Turns out it was a two word value and the requirements document they where looking at had placed a line break because of formatting. Despite me pointing where the values where in the database and the correct format, it was submitted as a defect because the document had it on a separate line. X|
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
The banes of my life are the testers that think they can design interfaces, the ones who think they understand the application requirements better than the end user and the ones who think a failing test is the following (and this really happened): "I deleted the application from the desktop" No you didn't, that's the shortcut "I could still start the application from the menu. The application must have been installed twice." Nope - you deleted the shortcut. You can tell by the little arrow that was on the icon before you deleted it. It took me two weeks, including escalating this to the end user before it was finally closed off as not a defect.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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Hi Carlo, In a couple of weeks my wife and I, together with my brother-in-law and wife, are spending two weeks in Italy, covering Rome, Florence, and Venice, and I would appreciate a little information. The most critical issue is - what does a bottle of good gin cost? :laugh: Also, can I buy a 3G data-only sim card on a pay-as-you-go deal? I want it for my net-book. I shall keep my usual card in my 'phone, but roaming data access is stupidly expensive. And finally, my wife is refusing to let me take my favourite Akubra[^] with me, so what is the current style of hat in Italy, so I can protect your fellow countrymen from being blinded by the reflections from the top of my head? :sigh: :) Taa very muchly if you can help with any of this (particularly the gin). :cool:
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I just spent over an hour back and forth with a QA tester because they keep saying a value was not showing up in a dropdown list. Turns out it was a two word value and the requirements document they where looking at had placed a line break because of formatting. Despite me pointing where the values where in the database and the correct format, it was submitted as a defect because the document had it on a separate line. X|
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
But doesn't that help raise the issue that the requirements may need to be reworked in order to enhance usability? /ravi
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The banes of my life are the testers that think they can design interfaces, the ones who think they understand the application requirements better than the end user and the ones who think a failing test is the following (and this really happened): "I deleted the application from the desktop" No you didn't, that's the shortcut "I could still start the application from the menu. The application must have been installed twice." Nope - you deleted the shortcut. You can tell by the little arrow that was on the icon before you deleted it. It took me two weeks, including escalating this to the end user before it was finally closed off as not a defect.
*pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier
Before testing even began, during the test case review process, this tester wanted to add defects because the application didn't support Accessibility. It took great effort to get them to understand their job is to test what is in the requirements and no support for Accessibility was specified in the requirements. So far five defects submitted and all are because of not reading the documentation and trying to test something that isn't in the requirements.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
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But doesn't that help raise the issue that the requirements may need to be reworked in order to enhance usability? /ravi
My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com
There was nothing wrong with the requirements, only the format the QA tester applied to the document.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
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Hi Carlo, In a couple of weeks my wife and I, together with my brother-in-law and wife, are spending two weeks in Italy, covering Rome, Florence, and Venice, and I would appreciate a little information. The most critical issue is - what does a bottle of good gin cost? :laugh: Also, can I buy a 3G data-only sim card on a pay-as-you-go deal? I want it for my net-book. I shall keep my usual card in my 'phone, but roaming data access is stupidly expensive. And finally, my wife is refusing to let me take my favourite Akubra[^] with me, so what is the current style of hat in Italy, so I can protect your fellow countrymen from being blinded by the reflections from the top of my head? :sigh: :) Taa very muchly if you can help with any of this (particularly the gin). :cool:
Chris C-B wrote:
The most critical issue is - what does a bottle of good gin cost?
Around ten euros per liter, I guess (I drink grappa, usually).
Chris C-B wrote:
Also, can I buy a 3G data-only sim card on a pay-as-you-go deal?
Yes, of course. You may find also some free wifi spots, in the big towns.
Chris C-B wrote:
And finally, my wife is refusing to let me take my favourite Akubra[^] with me, so what is the current style of hat in Italy, so I can protect your fellow countrymen from being blinded by the reflections from the top of my head?
Chris C-B wrote:
Taa very muchly if you can help with any of this (particularly the gin).
Be careful: don't drink and drive (expecially while dressing fancy hats)! :-D We might have a gin here in Rome.
Veni, vidi, vici.
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I just spent over an hour back and forth with a QA tester because they keep saying a value was not showing up in a dropdown list. Turns out it was a two word value and the requirements document they where looking at had placed a line break because of formatting. Despite me pointing where the values where in the database and the correct format, it was submitted as a defect because the document had it on a separate line. X|
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
I agree with the tester. You can't just chuck the testing document because you don't like what it says. If there is a discrepancy between the testing document and the design document or an error with either, then that needs to be hashed out, not just ignored.
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I agree with the tester. You can't just chuck the testing document because you don't like what it says. If there is a discrepancy between the testing document and the design document or an error with either, then that needs to be hashed out, not just ignored.
There was nothing wrong with the requirements, only the format the QA tester applied to the document.
Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.
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Chris C-B wrote:
The most critical issue is - what does a bottle of good gin cost?
Around ten euros per liter, I guess (I drink grappa, usually).
Chris C-B wrote:
Also, can I buy a 3G data-only sim card on a pay-as-you-go deal?
Yes, of course. You may find also some free wifi spots, in the big towns.
Chris C-B wrote:
And finally, my wife is refusing to let me take my favourite Akubra[^] with me, so what is the current style of hat in Italy, so I can protect your fellow countrymen from being blinded by the reflections from the top of my head?
Chris C-B wrote:
Taa very muchly if you can help with any of this (particularly the gin).
Be careful: don't drink and drive (expecially while dressing fancy hats)! :-D We might have a gin here in Rome.
Veni, vidi, vici.
CPallini wrote:
Around ten euros per liter, I guess (I drink grappa, usually).
Thanks - the reason for asking is that, due to the weird anomalies of air travel, I have a 30kgs outward baggage allowance, but only 20kgs on return. I figured I would fill the extra outward 10kgs with gin! However, at €10 per litre, it's just not worth it.
CPallini wrote:
Yes, of course. You may find also some free wifi spots, in the big towns.
Great - in the Rome hotel and the Florence and Venice apartments we should be OK, but during the middle of the day, if a client has a panic attack, I have to able at least to pretend to be doing something. :laugh:
CPallini wrote:
OK - so let me get this straight - an elegant Panama hat, or 65 bottles of gin? Damn, that's a hard choice! :laugh:
CPallini wrote:
Be careful: don't drink and drive (expecially while dressing fancy hats)!:-D
We are all going to be covered to drive the hire car - a stonking great Merc - and B-i-L's wife doesn't drink, and is also a very good driver. Problem solved! :cool:
CPallini wrote:
We might have a gin here in Rome.
Would love to, but it may be difficult, as we are only in Rome for the 9th and 10th, and then going on to Tuscany. B-i-L runs palm oil plantations in Papua New Guinea and New Britain, and we haven't seen him since Christmas 2008 when we went to Australia. The women are going to need at least 72 hours to catch up with each other. :~ Anyway, thanks for your help, and if we can get together for a gin/grappa on the way back through Rome, I will get in touch in good time. Cheers! :)
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Hi Carlo, In a couple of weeks my wife and I, together with my brother-in-law and wife, are spending two weeks in Italy, covering Rome, Florence, and Venice, and I would appreciate a little information. The most critical issue is - what does a bottle of good gin cost? :laugh: Also, can I buy a 3G data-only sim card on a pay-as-you-go deal? I want it for my net-book. I shall keep my usual card in my 'phone, but roaming data access is stupidly expensive. And finally, my wife is refusing to let me take my favourite Akubra[^] with me, so what is the current style of hat in Italy, so I can protect your fellow countrymen from being blinded by the reflections from the top of my head? :sigh: :) Taa very muchly if you can help with any of this (particularly the gin). :cool:
The wife doesn't want you to wear an Akubra, eh? Show her who is the boss. Get one of these hats: http://www.nextag.com/jester-hat/products-html[^] The third one should be available in Venice in any tourist-trap shop. About 10 euros, I would say.
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The wife doesn't want you to wear an Akubra, eh? Show her who is the boss. Get one of these hats: http://www.nextag.com/jester-hat/products-html[^] The third one should be available in Venice in any tourist-trap shop. About 10 euros, I would say.
