Extreme Artificial Intelligence
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Buy some books written by Stanislaw Lem, and have a lot fun while thinking over his stories!
I do just that, for fun :)
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Hey guys & ladies (to be gender insensitive), a theoretical thought, if a computer program simulates the human brain very accurately, does that make the program self - aware?
Hi, BupeChombaDerrick. Great question and I have to add that I admire your insightful thinking. Since the human brain is self-aware and that particular computer program simulates it *very accurately*, then, of course, that computer program will be self-aware, too. So, the answer is yes. The computer program will be self-aware, have emotions, etc.
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Yeah humans are self aware, why do you think they are not?
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I think it is possible for the machine to "think" (if we consider "think" a process of reasoning). We already have that... But i don't see human kind creating a machine that can feel emotions in the foreseeable future. I think it would be extremely cruel of us to create such a "Frankenstein".
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Yeah it can be cruel, but i'am sure our future generations can suppress those emotions in the machine and hence can be very helpful, like we are seeing with Apple's Siri.
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why no? any support for that answer?
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Hi, BupeChombaDerrick. Great question and I have to add that I admire your insightful thinking. Since the human brain is self-aware and that particular computer program simulates it *very accurately*, then, of course, that computer program will be self-aware, too. So, the answer is yes. The computer program will be self-aware, have emotions, etc.
Thanks Dimitrios Kalemis,
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BupeChombaDerrick wrote:
There is no computations in sewer systems and no memory whatsoever so i don't see a sewer ever becoming self aware.
Do you really think that replication algorithms in complex organic molecules and organisms are not computations, or that the chemical soup (called "liquor" in the sewer industry) does not retain memory? Intelligent life arose from just such a soup, and I suspect that you have far more to fear from the manholes on your street than the desktop in your office. ;)
Will Rogers never met me.
Roger Wright wrote:
you have far more to fear from the manholes on your street than the desktop in your office.
I have been told they hide bees sometimes. :)
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What does that have to do with computers becoming self-aware? As I said before you cannot compare the two, a computer is nothing at all like a brain.
Binding 100,000 items to a list box can be just silly regardless of what pattern you are following. Jeremy Likness
Yes for now one cannot compare the computer to the human brain, but in the future there will be need to do just that, especially when the Fifth generation computers fitted with sensory processing programs come into existence, anything with self monitoring capability and short term memory is self aware, so a program that can monitor and keep track (learn) of it's actions is self aware, so short term memory as something to do with self awareness, I respect your view on this matter, but my stance is that self aware is as a result of mere self monitoring and keeping a log of actions (learn) in a knowledge base. :)
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funny huh :laugh: it seems we have been hurting programs feeling without ever noticing, in the future even robots will have rights, so tell your child to be ready for such issues.
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why no? any support for that answer?
Sorry, I was suggesting you check out the book in the attached link to support my suggestion ;-)
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Yes for now one cannot compare the computer to the human brain, but in the future there will be need to do just that, especially when the Fifth generation computers fitted with sensory processing programs come into existence, anything with self monitoring capability and short term memory is self aware, so a program that can monitor and keep track (learn) of it's actions is self aware, so short term memory as something to do with self awareness, I respect your view on this matter, but my stance is that self aware is as a result of mere self monitoring and keeping a log of actions (learn) in a knowledge base. :)
BupeChombaDerrick wrote:
so a program that can monitor and keep track (learn) of it's actions is self aware
No it isn't, it's just a program, and it's no more self-aware than a tin of baked beans.
Binding 100,000 items to a list box can be just silly regardless of what pattern you are following. Jeremy Likness
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BupeChombaDerrick wrote:
so a program that can monitor and keep track (learn) of it's actions is self aware
No it isn't, it's just a program, and it's no more self-aware than a tin of baked beans.
Binding 100,000 items to a list box can be just silly regardless of what pattern you are following. Jeremy Likness
so in your own opinion, what causes self aware in humans?
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Sorry, I was suggesting you check out the book in the attached link to support my suggestion ;-)
or my bad.
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Sorry, I was suggesting you check out the book in the attached link to support my suggestion ;-)
So do neurons in the brain use some form of quantum computations or they just fire action potentials to signal the presence of a particular feature in sensory stimuli? - that process of firing action potential makes us aware of ourselves and the environment. I don't see any quantum processes coming into play here.
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if v r self aware then what is our purpose for being here? every program has a purpose.
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I think my purpose is to live as long as possible, leave a good legacy behind and enjoy life to the fullest or and reproduce :laugh: so does having a purpose make one self aware?
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Why are you convinced that people around you are self-aware ? Because you constantly Turing-test them for this feature, and they appear to behave as if they were self-aware. An accurate simulator will achieve that level of perfomance. The same holds for 'consciousness'.
so What makes you think i'am not just a program now? - you might be replying to a program right now. :)
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Hey guys & ladies (to be gender insensitive), a theoretical thought, if a computer program simulates the human brain very accurately, does that make the program self - aware?
too vast subject I'm afraid, anyway if you are interested in such mind-boggling stuff read the works of Douglas Hofstader
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So do neurons in the brain use some form of quantum computations or they just fire action potentials to signal the presence of a particular feature in sensory stimuli? - that process of firing action potential makes us aware of ourselves and the environment. I don't see any quantum processes coming into play here.
God Knows (sic)!
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so in your own opinion, what causes self aware in humans?
Humanity; what do you expect?
Binding 100,000 items to a list box can be just silly regardless of what pattern you are following. Jeremy Likness
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Hey guys & ladies (to be gender insensitive), a theoretical thought, if a computer program simulates the human brain very accurately, does that make the program self - aware?
I think we are closer than we have ever been. IBM chip mimics human brain[^] According to the article above, IBM has already been able to mimic the brain. It's only one step in the process of becoming self-aware but one step leads to another. It seems silly to me to think that it will not happen someday. I'm not saying it will have a soul or be human but it will definately be self-aware. My dogs are not human but they are definately self-aware. It's just a matter of time now that the first step has been taken. Enjoy!