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  • V Vasily Tserekh

    Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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    GuyThiebaut
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    Maybe because they leave very little to the imagination - back in the eighties when chuckie egg[^] and atic atac[^] were all that was available, in terms of high end graphics on home computers, the graphics were not what counted but the anticipation and discovery within the game were what made it enjoyable.

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    • L LloydA111

      I think that's what's missing these days. Most games have very similar story lines these days. Also, a particular rant I've had for a long time: WHY OH WHY are games that run on things like IPads and IPods (despite running on far more powerful games than classic games run on) absolute shit?! Why would I want to play some crappy game where all you do is simple mundane tasks (E.G. Angry birds, a game I've seen where you throw fruit around and then cut it up, various driving games) Classic games were made to be FAR better than this in less program space and on systems with limited memory and processing power. Thing's like Zork could keep you entertained for hours, all the games that run on IPads are crappy and maybe keep you interested for a few minutes. In fact, they are all like the Flash games you can find to play on the internet. :mad:


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      Rajesh R Subramanian
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      Remember Dangerous Dave? Galaga? Paratrooper? Super Mario bros? Mario bros will totally fry the angry birds for dinner. :)

      "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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      • V Vasily Tserekh

        Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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        CPallini
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        There was nothing like Zelda when I was a kid. I welcome the progress! :-D

        Veni, vidi, vici.

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        • R Rajesh R Subramanian

          Remember Dangerous Dave? Galaga? Paratrooper? Super Mario bros? Mario bros will totally fry the angry birds for dinner. :)

          "Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.

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          Brisingr Aerowing
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          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

          Mario bros will totally fry the angry birds for dinner.

          YEAH! GO MARIO! :-D :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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          • V Vasily Tserekh

            Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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            Steve Echols
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            Long live PONG!! :-D


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            • V Vasily Tserekh

              Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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              thrakazog
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              I know when I was a kid money was an issue with games. I only had a limited number of games so I played and played them until I knew every little piece. Now that I can and usually do buy 10-20 games a year I don't have the time to invest in each one as I did when I was younger.

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              • V Vasily Tserekh

                Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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                Chris Losinger
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                i've given up on FPS's. these days, i play mostly cheap games from small developers - Plants vs Zombies, iBomber, Unstoppable Gorg (all tower defense games), Braid, Limbo (puzzle side-scrollers), etc.. they don't cost much, they don't last long, they don't need huge hardware. good simple fun. if i don't like it, i'm out $10, no big deal.

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                • V Vasily Tserekh

                  Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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                  Maximilien
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                  Nostalgia is not good for the gamers's soul. You've just grown older. I still play, and I can't stand older games.

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    i've given up on FPS's. these days, i play mostly cheap games from small developers - Plants vs Zombies, iBomber, Unstoppable Gorg (all tower defense games), Braid, Limbo (puzzle side-scrollers), etc.. they don't cost much, they don't last long, they don't need huge hardware. good simple fun. if i don't like it, i'm out $10, no big deal.

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                    Vasily Tserekh
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                    yes i should do that, i am still hoping a game that freak me out like re1 or enjoy it like mgs1

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                    • V Vasily Tserekh

                      Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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                      Mladen Jankovic
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                      Vasily Tserekh wrote:

                      call of duty, death island and battlefield 3

                      There's your problem. If you want FPS, play something good like L4D or Serious Sam and if you like sandbox games try Just Cause 2.

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                      • V Vasily Tserekh

                        Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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                        Paul M Watt
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                        There are too many games to choose from, so finding the diamond in the rough is a difficult task. There used to be 3 systems period. No mobile gaming, no cross-platform ports. You either played on a console or the PC. I have mostly played games by indie developers over the last 10 years on the PC. I check out reviews on gametunnel.com. I have found some pretty cool games like Oasis, Defcon and Darwinia. For mainstream games, Portal and Portal 2 were excellent.

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                        • V Vasily Tserekh

                          Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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                          BillWoodruff
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                          Vasily Tserekh wrote:

                          Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager

                          Hi Vasily, Hypothesis: you have mentally matured to some degree. best, Bill

                          “Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of weakness, and dies by chance.” Jean-Paul Sartre, "Nausea"

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                          • V Vasily Tserekh

                            Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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                            Septimus Hedgehog
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                            Perhaps you've now grown up? :) If you're getting out more perhaps its time to consider playing rugby. In other words, do something useful with your life. :-D

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                            • V Vasily Tserekh

                              Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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                              jschell
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                              Vasily Tserekh wrote:

                              Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager

                              Just a wild guess...because you are older? The older you get the less 'gee-whiz' factor there is because with more experience you can anticipate everything more.

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                              • W wizardzz

                                I'm with Aesc (above poster) on this one. Games are made like movies now. Often they take as long, cost as much to produce, and have the same amount of people working on them. What does this mean? Well, the producers want return on investment. How do they do that? Play it safe. Most games are just reiterations and bastardizations of games that already exist and have been exploited to the bone. I have gamefly and try a lot of games but like very few. Also, because there is so much money involved, and so many people working on it, they are created by committee which I am starting to feel more and more leads to mediocrity. Movies and TV's shows written via committee suck compared to one where someone has a clear artistic / creative lead / vested interest.

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                                jschell
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                                wizardzz wrote:

                                Also, because there is so much money involved, and so many people working on it, they are created by committee which I am starting to feel more and more leads to mediocrity. Movies and TV's shows written via committee suck compared to one where someone has a clear artistic / creative lead / vested interest.

                                Errr...there is so much money involved because the games are vastly more complex. Try playing 'hunt the wumpus' (the text one) or 'pong' and then compare that to something like Halo.

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                                • L LloydA111

                                  I think that's what's missing these days. Most games have very similar story lines these days. Also, a particular rant I've had for a long time: WHY OH WHY are games that run on things like IPads and IPods (despite running on far more powerful games than classic games run on) absolute shit?! Why would I want to play some crappy game where all you do is simple mundane tasks (E.G. Angry birds, a game I've seen where you throw fruit around and then cut it up, various driving games) Classic games were made to be FAR better than this in less program space and on systems with limited memory and processing power. Thing's like Zork could keep you entertained for hours, all the games that run on IPads are crappy and maybe keep you interested for a few minutes. In fact, they are all like the Flash games you can find to play on the internet. :mad:


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                                  jschell
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                                  Lloyd Atkinson wrote:

                                  Why would I want to play some crappy game where all you do is simple mundane tasks (E.G. Angry birds, a game I've seen where you throw fruit around and then cut it up, various driving games) Classic games were made to be FAR better than this in less program space and on systems with limited memory and processing power.

                                  Errr...exactly what "classic" games did you have in mind? Pong? Defender? Galaga? Wizardry (1)? Or Monopoly?

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                                  • P Paul M Watt

                                    There are too many games to choose from, so finding the diamond in the rough is a difficult task. There used to be 3 systems period. No mobile gaming, no cross-platform ports. You either played on a console or the PC. I have mostly played games by indie developers over the last 10 years on the PC. I check out reviews on gametunnel.com. I have found some pretty cool games like Oasis, Defcon and Darwinia. For mainstream games, Portal and Portal 2 were excellent.

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                                    Paul Watt wrote:

                                    There used to be 3 systems period.

                                    Actually at one time there was basically only one system. The Apple. For a couple of years if you wanted to play the most games possible (along with a wider variety of business apps) you bought the Apple because the C64 and IBM didn't have even close to the same market share. The C64 gained some parity in games and only games (but didn't match) before the PC (IBM clones) started to dominate the software market.

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                                      For me games have lost the enjoyment for a few of reasons: - too many first person shooters. Yawn. Including so called computer RPGS - yes it really helps immersion in the game world to have your character having the same level of intelligence and manual dexterity. Tits to that, I want to play a role, not me in a funny suit. If I wanted a funny suit I'd become a furry. - lots of developers and publishers place graphical sophistication over making an interesting game. They seem to think a game is just like an interactive film with as few controls and choices as possible. Ooo look at the game world graphics, aren't they good? Shame you can't do anything apart from fairly tightly scripted choices. Does it sound like I'm ranting? And I work in the effing industry. When I were a lad 'twere all fields 'round 'ere...

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                                      I agree that a lot of the big studios with all their resources are somewhat mindlessly pushing at the limits of graphics. That is one of the reasons I've gravitated towards playing a lot of the flash and indie games. I'd dislike the over-emphasis on graphics when it's accompanied with little or not game-play or story elements as well, but I like to think of it as a different aspect rather than a degradation of the quality of the game industry altogether. I disagree with you if you are (and it seems from your post that you are) implying that every game and every developer is going that way. I've found a lot of games which are thoroughly entertaining, most of which have been ones where the platform or the available resources have limited the developers from pursuing the graphics too far. This limitation actually enforces the developers to look into and brings out the creative aspects. A couple of the games I can think of right now are Fantastic contraptions[^] Desktop Tower Defence[^]. And there are many like them who try an interesting idea instead of trying to burn you graphics chip. I recently played Dragon Age Origins (yes I'm this guy[^] :) ) and I thought it gave me enough freedom to develop my character. I also recently came across this[^] interview and the game idea sounds interesting as well. A recent article about Jonathan Blow brought up similar views and resulted in this.[^]

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                                      • J jschell

                                        Paul Watt wrote:

                                        There used to be 3 systems period.

                                        Actually at one time there was basically only one system. The Apple. For a couple of years if you wanted to play the most games possible (along with a wider variety of business apps) you bought the Apple because the C64 and IBM didn't have even close to the same market share. The C64 gained some parity in games and only games (but didn't match) before the PC (IBM clones) started to dominate the software market.

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                                        Paul M Watt
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                                        Thanks for schoolin me :thumbsup:. Thinking about it, I was probably referring to the height of my gaming youth which included the NES, Sega Master System, and Turbo Grafx 16. I have played the atari before that, and a few friends C64s, but really had little to know exposure to personal computers until 1988 or so.

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                                        • V Vasily Tserekh

                                          Someone tell me why i dont enjoy games today as i did when I was a child or a teenager i still can remember how i played the first RE back in 98 or how i played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis back in 95 or Metal Gear Solid for PS1 or Agent 007 in N64. nowadays games seems stupid to me i just finished playing the last call of duty, death island and battlefield 3 and i sense somthing is missing What is it?!!!!

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                                          Xerantes
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                                          After I read the post in reply to this post, I think we are missing on point in the discussion. In the past we had to put in more of our imagination into the games, because they haven't been that realistic as they are today. So every ones experience was a little different. Also, I fully agree, that there is too much money involved today. It is sad, that even the big players would not dare to risk something fresh and new over the next sequel which will most certainly at least return the production cost plus a nice profit. It is futile to rant about that as long as we (and many others) still buy these games and we keep making money the center of our universe (Quit philosophical ;) ). We experience here the same development, which every art, that has been industrialized, has experienced. Mass production (of low quality?) of crowed suitable contend for the quick buck. But I think there is hope for us thriving for another kind of games. Take a look at the indi Games made available by steam or the new possibilities be kick-starting promising games (like double fine).

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