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Dario Solera wrote:
the process is so absurdly complex, unobvious and quirky, that I wouldn't know where to begin
What better reason to write an article?!
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Good point. I shall find the time then.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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Well, not quite, but I just published my first Android app: Folder Downloader for Dropbox[^]. It's free, and it's not related to my job/business. I guess I ought to write an article, but the development process is so absurdly complex, unobvious and quirky, that I wouldn't know where to begin. The development methodology is TaE*. Opinions? Other experiences in Android development? * Trial-and-Error
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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Well, not quite, but I just published my first Android app: Folder Downloader for Dropbox[^]. It's free, and it's not related to my job/business. I guess I ought to write an article, but the development process is so absurdly complex, unobvious and quirky, that I wouldn't know where to begin. The development methodology is TaE*. Opinions? Other experiences in Android development? * Trial-and-Error
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
You forgot to ask for full permissions to access the contact list and system status etc...
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You forgot to ask for full permissions to access the contact list and system status etc...
What for? :confused:
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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What for? :confused:
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
Exactly! Many if not most apps ask for far more permissions than they actually need. Well done for not going down that route! :beer:
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Well, not quite, but I just published my first Android app: Folder Downloader for Dropbox[^]. It's free, and it's not related to my job/business. I guess I ought to write an article, but the development process is so absurdly complex, unobvious and quirky, that I wouldn't know where to begin. The development methodology is TaE*. Opinions? Other experiences in Android development? * Trial-and-Error
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
Dario Solera wrote:
I ought to write an article, but the process is so absurdly complex, unobvious and quirky, that I wouldn't know where to begin.
It's actually a lot easier than developing the app. You can download the template files and create it on your PC and email it in to the editors, or use the Wizard to produce it online. I have used both methods with no problems at all.
Binding 100,000 items to a list box can be just silly regardless of what pattern you are following. Jeremy Likness
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Dario Solera wrote:
I ought to write an article, but the process is so absurdly complex, unobvious and quirky, that I wouldn't know where to begin.
It's actually a lot easier than developing the app. You can download the template files and create it on your PC and email it in to the editors, or use the Wizard to produce it online. I have used both methods with no problems at all.
Binding 100,000 items to a list box can be just silly regardless of what pattern you are following. Jeremy Likness
Uhm, I was referring to the development process, not writing an article :D
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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Exactly! Many if not most apps ask for far more permissions than they actually need. Well done for not going down that route! :beer:
I've become more paranoid recently about Android apps permissions. If an app I want to install is not from a developer I trust and asks for permissions I don't deem necessary, I don't install it.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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Exactly! Many if not most apps ask for far more permissions than they actually need. Well done for not going down that route! :beer:
viaducting wrote:
Many if not most apps ask for far more permissions than they actually need.
Really? How do you know they do not need those permissions?
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Uhm, I was referring to the development process, not writing an article :D
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
Sorry, I mis-read that statement.
Binding 100,000 items to a list box can be just silly regardless of what pattern you are following. Jeremy Likness
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viaducting wrote:
Many if not most apps ask for far more permissions than they actually need.
Really? How do you know they do not need those permissions?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous
for an example, there would be no reason for a solitaire card game to need permissions to the contacts list etc...I have seen that type of thing and it makes me suspect one of the two following #1. The developer doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and just gave random permissions to the app, in which case I would not trust the app to not be buggy as hell since he did not know what he was doing. #2. he is up to something nefarious.. (Yes I know a little about droid development as I have an app out and am working on another, no I am most certainly NOT an expert however)
Common sense is not a gift it's a curse. Those of us who have it have to deal with those that don't.... Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
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for an example, there would be no reason for a solitaire card game to need permissions to the contacts list etc...I have seen that type of thing and it makes me suspect one of the two following #1. The developer doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and just gave random permissions to the app, in which case I would not trust the app to not be buggy as hell since he did not know what he was doing. #2. he is up to something nefarious.. (Yes I know a little about droid development as I have an app out and am working on another, no I am most certainly NOT an expert however)
Common sense is not a gift it's a curse. Those of us who have it have to deal with those that don't.... Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.
gavindon wrote:
for an example, there would be no reason for a solitaire card game to need permissions to the contacts list etc
The only time I've ever seen this is when the app uses ads.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous
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viaducting wrote:
Many if not most apps ask for far more permissions than they actually need.
Really? How do you know they do not need those permissions?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous
I just went to install the Evernote app, and found it needed access to my contacts list, the system status, your location, and it made me increasingly paranoid. It's not that I don't trust the Evernote developers, I just don't believe that they need access to that sort of information. There is a lot of discussion in the Android community about how it is a major requirement for Android to (1) give you finer-grained control over permissions and (2) for apps to accept that you don't want them to have access to certain data.
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gavindon wrote:
for an example, there would be no reason for a solitaire card game to need permissions to the contacts list etc
The only time I've ever seen this is when the app uses ads.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous
Ads need Internet access, plus a specific "Ads" permission which is usually not considered critical and thus hidden on the Market.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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I just went to install the Evernote app, and found it needed access to my contacts list, the system status, your location, and it made me increasingly paranoid. It's not that I don't trust the Evernote developers, I just don't believe that they need access to that sort of information. There is a lot of discussion in the Android community about how it is a major requirement for Android to (1) give you finer-grained control over permissions and (2) for apps to accept that you don't want them to have access to certain data.
(I use Evernote) I guess they need the conctact list for sharing notes or something like that.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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You forgot to ask for full permissions to access the contact list and system status etc...
Root the device, and install LBE privacy guard. :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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(I use Evernote) I guess they need the conctact list for sharing notes or something like that.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
If you're happy with it I guess I shouldn't worry! :-D
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I just went to install the Evernote app, and found it needed access to my contacts list, the system status, your location, and it made me increasingly paranoid. It's not that I don't trust the Evernote developers, I just don't believe that they need access to that sort of information. There is a lot of discussion in the Android community about how it is a major requirement for Android to (1) give you finer-grained control over permissions and (2) for apps to accept that you don't want them to have access to certain data.
viaducting wrote:
I just went to install the Evernote app, and found it needed access to my contacts list...
They use your contact list for autocomplete when you email a note to someone.
viaducting wrote:
It's not that I don't trust the Evernote developers, I just don't believe that they need access to that sort of information.
Rather than speculate and continue to wonder, why not just simply ask them? I've asked this very question dozens of times, and since I've created several Android apps myself, I can be confident in their answers (since I know what a particular API needs).
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous
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viaducting wrote:
I just went to install the Evernote app, and found it needed access to my contacts list...
They use your contact list for autocomplete when you email a note to someone.
viaducting wrote:
It's not that I don't trust the Evernote developers, I just don't believe that they need access to that sort of information.
Rather than speculate and continue to wonder, why not just simply ask them? I've asked this very question dozens of times, and since I've created several Android apps myself, I can be confident in their answers (since I know what a particular API needs).
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous
DavidCrow wrote:
They use your contact list for autocomplete when you email a note to someone.
OK, but Android and the app should be able to work together to allow you to prohibit access to the contacts list and disable that functionality while letting the rest of the app run.
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gavindon wrote:
for an example, there would be no reason for a solitaire card game to need permissions to the contacts list etc
The only time I've ever seen this is when the app uses ads.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous
ads need internet access, not contacts. I'm ok with free apps getting internet to run their ads, the developers are just trying to make money. I'm just not ok with them wanting permission to things that have absolutely zero to do with the app or with ads. I've seen simple game apps that want permission to the camera, location, contacts, phone settings, a whole list of seemingly random crap that there is no way in hell the app needs. Those are the ones that bug me.
Common sense is not a gift it's a curse. Those of us who have it have to deal with those that don't.... Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow. You can't scare me, I have children.