Random Thoughts on Time Travel
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Becasue the TARDIS travels through the vortex, where time and space are one! And of course for what TARDIS stands for; Time And Relative Dimensions In Space. As one moves through one, one moves through the other. Then of course you have to remember that you are already moving through time. You are travelling forward in time at one second per second, and yet also moving through space at the same time. You are locked onto a multidimensional framework, and movement through space is movement through time also. (This is proven by flying atomic clocks around the world and noting the differences, or by the fact that the geostaionary GPS satellites are constantly being updated to cancel out the relativity) So if movement through space is a movement through time, then it follows that movement through time necessitates a movement through space. Therefore ones position in the space-time continuum is constistant regardless of how far into future or past.
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"Humans are amphibians ... half spirit and half animal ... as spirits they belong to the eternal world, but as animals they inhabit time. This means that while their spirit can be directed to an eternal object, their bodies, passions, and imaginations are in continual change, for to be in time, means to change. Their nearest approach to constancy, therefore, is undulation: the repeated return to a level from which they repeatedly fall back, a series of troughs and peaks.” C.S. Lewis
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Time travel has not yet been invented or we'd be overwhelmed with obnoxious tourists form tomorrow. Besides, you can't travel backwards past the point that time travel is made to work. Or so my future great-great-great-great-great-grandson told me next week.
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mark merrens wrote:
you can't travel backwards past the point that time travel is made to work
That makes no sense.
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Well, If time travel in a backward direction is possible without a receiver, then surely someone would have popped back to tell us? They haven't so it isn't. (or, if possible, humans don't invent it, or only ever go back to about 32 BC) However, Time travel in any direction may be possible with a transmitter and receiver - and obviously you can't go back in time further than the point at when the receiver is invented and built. The location of that receiver would, one presumes, be fixed relative to some location (be that in a garage in someone's house, a university or orbiting the earth) So - no problem. Of course, there could be an issue that, relative to one another, the transmitter and receiver could be traveling at thousands of miles per hour - which would explain two things. 0. Why we have met no time travellers 1. What that greasy, brownish stain is in that garage next to that pile of slightly melted scrap.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
Time travel in any direction may be possible with a transmitter and receiver
That makes no sense. We don't need them for traveling through space, we don't even need vehicles except in certain environments. If time travel is possible we will not need machines to do it (just as we don't for traveling at our current rate).
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Time travel has not yet been invented or we'd be overwhelmed with obnoxious tourists form tomorrow. Besides, you can't travel backwards past the point that time travel is made to work. Or so my future great-great-great-great-great-grandson told me next week.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me
mark merrens wrote:
you can't travel backwards past the point that time travel is made to work
That makes no sense.
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_Maxxx_ wrote:
Time travel in any direction may be possible with a transmitter and receiver
That makes no sense. We don't need them for traveling through space, we don't even need vehicles except in certain environments. If time travel is possible we will not need machines to do it (just as we don't for traveling at our current rate).
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
That makes no sense
Neither does the fact that a single photon may interfere with its non existent self - but it still happens[^].
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
We don't need them for traveling through space
No, but we do for making phone calls.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
If time travel is possible we will not need machines to do it (just as we don't for traveling at our current rate).
Well we don't need anything to travel in time at our current rate - but we are talking about travelling at a different rate (and direction) here. Are you saying that, if we want to travel in time all we need to do is what? click our heels together and say "there's no place like home"? Or are you saying it must be impossible because we can't do it without machines?
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So I've been watching a certain TV show that has recently (recently to me, the show has been over for a while now) delved into the topic of time travel. In this time travel scenario, a group of people are forced through time (forward and backward) but they always end up in the same geographical location when they do so. This made me think about other shows and movies that deal with time travel as well, and most of them have the same concept of time travel. However, this got me thinking about time and space. The earth is constantly spinning and orbiting the sun (69K MPH), the sun is moving through the galaxy and orbiting the galactic center (505K MPH), and the galaxy is moving through the universe (1,339K MPH). So if I were to move forward through time by 5 minutes, and end up occupying the exact same space as I had before I moved through time, the earth would be about 160K miles away from me (not even accounting for universal expansion). So to create an effective time machine (absurdity and feasibility aside), it couldn't purely move through time, it would have to travel through time AND space simultaneously. Thank goodness the good Dr. has already figured this out with his TARDIS, which is the only show I can think of that even begins to address this issue.
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nope, Lost. It's on Netflix, so I've become mildly addicted to it and am currently powering through season 5.
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Yes, or you could put some sort of stipulation in your will that requires your descendants to come back and tell you. I also believe that time travel as envisioned in such stories will never be achieved. Probably not teleportion either.
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If they traveled back before the will was written would the will still matter? :confused:
Yes?
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Yes?
Your post depressed me because it's so very wrong. The lack of training you've received in time travel ethics makes me think you went to a public school. Please immediately sign up for a course at your local community college because you never know when you could get sucked into a rift - my stars man, you need to be prepared!
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Your post depressed me because it's so very wrong. The lack of training you've received in time travel ethics makes me think you went to a public school. Please immediately sign up for a course at your local community college because you never know when you could get sucked into a rift - my stars man, you need to be prepared!
Oh, yes, I went to college to get sucked into a rift. :cool:
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So I've been watching a certain TV show that has recently (recently to me, the show has been over for a while now) delved into the topic of time travel. In this time travel scenario, a group of people are forced through time (forward and backward) but they always end up in the same geographical location when they do so. This made me think about other shows and movies that deal with time travel as well, and most of them have the same concept of time travel. However, this got me thinking about time and space. The earth is constantly spinning and orbiting the sun (69K MPH), the sun is moving through the galaxy and orbiting the galactic center (505K MPH), and the galaxy is moving through the universe (1,339K MPH). So if I were to move forward through time by 5 minutes, and end up occupying the exact same space as I had before I moved through time, the earth would be about 160K miles away from me (not even accounting for universal expansion). So to create an effective time machine (absurdity and feasibility aside), it couldn't purely move through time, it would have to travel through time AND space simultaneously. Thank goodness the good Dr. has already figured this out with his TARDIS, which is the only show I can think of that even begins to address this issue.
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