Windows 8 won't support DVD playback
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From Building Windows 8 Blog[^]. Very disappointing, and an additional reason to drive users to Mac. It seems Microsoft is doing their its to make Windows 8 fail miserably.
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Tablets and smartphones don't have DVD so why does it matter? Ohhh, that's right: Microsoft wants their smartphone OS used on desktops. Sorry, forgot.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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From Building Windows 8 Blog[^]. Very disappointing, and an additional reason to drive users to Mac. It seems Microsoft is doing their its to make Windows 8 fail miserably.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
Windows 8: Ready, Aim [and soon] Fire! Unfortunately, Microsoft seems to be aiming at its own foot. People may have been willing to deal with installing their own Media Players/Codecs in the XP days (after all DVDs had only just become commonplace) but now they expect this stuff to work out the box. Not only that, but the user base of the market necessarily become less technical, because the percentage of technical people all adopted early.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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Windows 8: Ready, Aim [and soon] Fire! Unfortunately, Microsoft seems to be aiming at its own foot. People may have been willing to deal with installing their own Media Players/Codecs in the XP days (after all DVDs had only just become commonplace) but now they expect this stuff to work out the box. Not only that, but the user base of the market necessarily become less technical, because the percentage of technical people all adopted early.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]Keith Barrow wrote:
now they expect this stuff to work out the box
Exactly my point.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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From Building Windows 8 Blog[^]. Very disappointing, and an additional reason to drive users to Mac. It seems Microsoft is doing their its to make Windows 8 fail miserably.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
I'm getting ready for there Mac/PC guy commercials like they had with Vista. But look how well it runs on your tablet, can Mac do that?
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I'm getting ready for there Mac/PC guy commercials like they had with Vista. But look how well it runs on your tablet, can Mac do that?
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Version 3.0 now available. There is no place like 127.0.0.1Mike Hankey wrote:
But look how well it runs on your tablet, can Mac do that?
Actually, the ARM version of Windows 8 is Metro-only, so it's not that different from an iPad. Only much more complex.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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Tablets and smartphones don't have DVD so why does it matter? Ohhh, that's right: Microsoft wants their smartphone OS used on desktops. Sorry, forgot.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
Tablets and smartphones don't have DVD so why does it matter?
Ohhh, that's right: Microsoft wants their smartphone OS used on desktops. Sorry, forgot.LOL, harsh! :-)
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com
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To Mac? I expect most will just stick with 7. That whole "W8 won't play DVD's" thing doesn't appear to be true though. Sure it won't play DVD's out of the box, but then neither did XP. That hasn't stopped people from watching DVD's. VLC etc should still work.
You are so... rational.
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From Building Windows 8 Blog[^]. Very disappointing, and an additional reason to drive users to Mac. It seems Microsoft is doing their its to make Windows 8 fail miserably.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
I read the Sinofsky blog linked to in the OP, all of the comments on it, and all the comments here. The one "puzzle-piece" that "jumps out at me as missing" is what the major hardware vendors are going to do: I can't imagine them selling new Win 8 (desktops, or laptops/netbooks that do include an optical drive) without out-of-the-box dvd and/or blu-ray play capacity, depending on what type OD is installed (do you think blu-ray is still a year, or more, away from replacing dvd as standard equipment (?)). So HP/Dell/etc., eat the cost of the codecs, or bundle some 3rd. party player app on the new Win 8 desktop ... or laptop with optical drive ... buyer: and the customer pays more ? I have seen no recent statistics, but I would estimate the use of all personal computers, per se, to watch video as increasing exponentially. The only thing I am sure of is that the consumer will pay more, and MS less. best, Bill
"Humans are amphibians ... half spirit and half animal ... as spirits they belong to the eternal world, but as animals they inhabit time. This means that while their spirit can be directed to an eternal object, their bodies, passions, and imaginations are in continual change, for to be in time, means to change. Their nearest approach to constancy, therefore, is undulation: the repeated return to a level from which they repeatedly fall back, a series of troughs and peaks.” C.S. Lewis
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From Building Windows 8 Blog[^]. Very disappointing, and an additional reason to drive users to Mac. It seems Microsoft is doing their its to make Windows 8 fail miserably.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
This upsets me because I used to play DVDs on my computer ten years ago.
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From Building Windows 8 Blog[^]. Very disappointing, and an additional reason to drive users to Mac. It seems Microsoft is doing their its to make Windows 8 fail miserably.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
I believe there is unstated reason for this; MPEG-LA have made and broken promises about licensing. There are many disputed patents concerning digital media. Microsoft doesn't want to get caught in the crossfire when MPEG-LA starts a patent war (which I think they will.)
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Mike Hankey wrote:
But look how well it runs on your tablet, can Mac do that?
Actually, the ARM version of Windows 8 is Metro-only, so it's not that different from an iPad. Only much more complex.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
Nope. Actually the ARM version will still have the desktop side, and you could write applications for the desktop side if you compile them to the ARM architecture. For example, MS is including a desktop version of Office with ARM OS.
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From Building Windows 8 Blog[^]. Very disappointing, and an additional reason to drive users to Mac. It seems Microsoft is doing their its to make Windows 8 fail miserably.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
I have Win7pro and I can't play DVDs. What's the big deal?
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From Building Windows 8 Blog[^]. Very disappointing, and an additional reason to drive users to Mac. It seems Microsoft is doing their its to make Windows 8 fail miserably.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
When was the last time you played a DVD on your computer? I know I have never done so with my current laptop and only once with my previous PC. And that time was only to test the new DVD drive I had installed. If you want the functionality, you can add it. By adding the Pro Pack with WMC. And the rest of us don't have to pay for said functionality that we won't ever use.
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Nope. Actually the ARM version will still have the desktop side, and you could write applications for the desktop side if you compile them to the ARM architecture. For example, MS is including a desktop version of Office with ARM OS.
Not quite. It's my understanding that it won't support third-party desktop applications. Just the Windows built-in bits and the ARM version of Office.
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When was the last time you played a DVD on your computer? I know I have never done so with my current laptop and only once with my previous PC. And that time was only to test the new DVD drive I had installed. If you want the functionality, you can add it. By adding the Pro Pack with WMC. And the rest of us don't have to pay for said functionality that we won't ever use.
I've played a few DVDs on my PC. Not many, sure, but it's still a nice-to-have feature for me.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe, but not a personality. [Charlie Brooker] ScrewTurn Wiki, Software Localization Tools & Services and My Blog
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Windows 8: Ready, Aim [and soon] Fire! Unfortunately, Microsoft seems to be aiming at its own foot. People may have been willing to deal with installing their own Media Players/Codecs in the XP days (after all DVDs had only just become commonplace) but now they expect this stuff to work out the box. Not only that, but the user base of the market necessarily become less technical, because the percentage of technical people all adopted early.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]Microsoft seems to be very good at that. They take something **almost** great and mediocre it up for no good reason. I don't know if it's project manager overload or what so often throws them off target, but there seems to be a pattern of promising products followed by the let-down. "What was that?" "We need total concentwation. Now, twy again."
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I believe there is unstated reason for this; MPEG-LA have made and broken promises about licensing. There are many disputed patents concerning digital media. Microsoft doesn't want to get caught in the crossfire when MPEG-LA starts a patent war (which I think they will.)
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Windows 8: Ready, Aim [and soon] Fire! Unfortunately, Microsoft seems to be aiming at its own foot. People may have been willing to deal with installing their own Media Players/Codecs in the XP days (after all DVDs had only just become commonplace) but now they expect this stuff to work out the box. Not only that, but the user base of the market necessarily become less technical, because the percentage of technical people all adopted early.
Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
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They are, but they don't control the group; they helped create a monster that has turned on them. Interestingly, a similar cartel was formed in the latter half of the 19th century, centered around sewing machines. It resulted in a dramatic reduction in innovation. I believe that among many other reasons was the fear of members that the cartel they created would turn against them and in the subsequent law suits, they'd lose the patents they'd contributed to the group. Regardless, I'm surprised how little scrutiny MPEGLA gets.
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I read the Sinofsky blog linked to in the OP, all of the comments on it, and all the comments here. The one "puzzle-piece" that "jumps out at me as missing" is what the major hardware vendors are going to do: I can't imagine them selling new Win 8 (desktops, or laptops/netbooks that do include an optical drive) without out-of-the-box dvd and/or blu-ray play capacity, depending on what type OD is installed (do you think blu-ray is still a year, or more, away from replacing dvd as standard equipment (?)). So HP/Dell/etc., eat the cost of the codecs, or bundle some 3rd. party player app on the new Win 8 desktop ... or laptop with optical drive ... buyer: and the customer pays more ? I have seen no recent statistics, but I would estimate the use of all personal computers, per se, to watch video as increasing exponentially. The only thing I am sure of is that the consumer will pay more, and MS less. best, Bill
"Humans are amphibians ... half spirit and half animal ... as spirits they belong to the eternal world, but as animals they inhabit time. This means that while their spirit can be directed to an eternal object, their bodies, passions, and imaginations are in continual change, for to be in time, means to change. Their nearest approach to constancy, therefore, is undulation: the repeated return to a level from which they repeatedly fall back, a series of troughs and peaks.” C.S. Lewis
