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  • S Slacker007

    brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

    "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
    "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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    wizardzz
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    I didn't read the article, but have read enough on it. I'm sick of the term and all the hoopla and bullshit buzz-speak that surrounds it.

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    • S Slacker007

      brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

      "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
      "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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      Chris Meech
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      Like most generalizations, it fails. :)

      Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra] posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]

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      • S Slacker007

        brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

        "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
        "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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        Marc Clifton
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        Slacker007 wrote:

        I never feel "sexy" during or after coding.

        I experience a certain "rush" about solving a problem elegantly (which means a variety of things, like in 10% of the time I predicted, or in a piece of code that really reflect a deep understanding of the problem, etc). It IS a bit like sex, there's an intimacy with the code, the accomplishment of something that satisfies the user, and so forth.

        Slacker007 wrote:

        I feel violated and used.

        That only occurs when I'm forced, usually by management, to make compromises, and when what I do has a direct impact on the company (sometimes in the order of millions of dollars) and my "recognition" of what I've done for the company is rewarded by "please provide the pros and cons of your approach to this next problem" which is a veiled way of management saying "I am threatened by your skill and I don't trust you." It's unfortunate that there isn't clearer communication, transparency, and recognition because of the egos involved. While I am in some ways offended by the term "brogrammer", I do sincerely hope that what we are witnessing is the evolution of a more emotionally and socially mature tech industry. Sadly, keg parties and picking up girls is indicative of an emotional/social intelligence that knows how to use those skills for personal, ego-gratifying gains, rather than true social benefits. But I suppose, in some twisted way, it's a step in the right direction. Marc

        My Blog
        The Relationship Oriented Programming IDE
        Melody's Amazon Herb Site

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        • S Slacker007

          brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

          "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
          "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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          Mike Hankey
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          What have they been smoking?

          VS2010/Atmel Studio 6.0 ToDo Manager Extension
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          • S Slacker007

            brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

            "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
            "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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            Mario Luis
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            That just seems wrong on so many levels. :~

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            • S Slacker007

              brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

              "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
              "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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              Anyone can create an iApp and suddenly be a rock star. But one rude noise generator sold for .99 to 10000 morons doesn't make you a developer. It makes you a semi-lucrative script kiddie. Most of these 'brogrammer start-ups will crash and burn just like all the other "I've got a great idea and lots of money" start-ups before them. Technology has evolved to the state that it doesn't require a computer science degree to create applications. But to create well structured, performant, extensible code it takes more than reading a few How To articles or For Dummies books.


              Failure is not an option; it's the default selection.

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              • S Slacker007

                brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

                "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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                costavo
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                then find an other job

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                • S Slacker007

                  brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

                  "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                  "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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                  Lost User
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                  Dammit! I don't wanna be forced out of my job by sexy people. Why does this keep happening? Isn't it enough that these people have modeling, entertainment, and teh giglo markets all wrapped up? If this continues I'll find myself taking care of the bells in an old cathedral somewhere - but then the goth crowd probably has that all locked down as well.

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                  • S Slacker007

                    brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

                    "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                    "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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                    Keith Barrow
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                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    , I never feel "sexy" ... On the contrary, I feel violated and used

                    If you do it right these are the same thing aren't they:~

                    Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                    -Or-
                    A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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                    • S Slacker007

                      brogrammer_article[^] For some reason, I never feel "sexy" during or after coding. On the contrary, I feel violated and used. :)

                      "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                      "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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                      Joe Woodbury
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                      Wow, the author takes a few anecdotes and creates an entire trend, even introducing a word that nobody on the planet actually uses.

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                      • J Joe Woodbury

                        Wow, the author takes a few anecdotes and creates an entire trend, even introducing a word that nobody on the planet actually uses.

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                        Lost User
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                        Hater is gonna hate (1). NOTES --------------------------------------------------------- 1: I think this response fits the article. I'm just trying to fit in, dude.

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          Slacker007 wrote:

                          I never feel "sexy" during or after coding.

                          I experience a certain "rush" about solving a problem elegantly (which means a variety of things, like in 10% of the time I predicted, or in a piece of code that really reflect a deep understanding of the problem, etc). It IS a bit like sex, there's an intimacy with the code, the accomplishment of something that satisfies the user, and so forth.

                          Slacker007 wrote:

                          I feel violated and used.

                          That only occurs when I'm forced, usually by management, to make compromises, and when what I do has a direct impact on the company (sometimes in the order of millions of dollars) and my "recognition" of what I've done for the company is rewarded by "please provide the pros and cons of your approach to this next problem" which is a veiled way of management saying "I am threatened by your skill and I don't trust you." It's unfortunate that there isn't clearer communication, transparency, and recognition because of the egos involved. While I am in some ways offended by the term "brogrammer", I do sincerely hope that what we are witnessing is the evolution of a more emotionally and socially mature tech industry. Sadly, keg parties and picking up girls is indicative of an emotional/social intelligence that knows how to use those skills for personal, ego-gratifying gains, rather than true social benefits. But I suppose, in some twisted way, it's a step in the right direction. Marc

                          My Blog
                          The Relationship Oriented Programming IDE
                          Melody's Amazon Herb Site

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                          Slacker007
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                          No offense Marc, but I feel you are taking this way too serious. I don't associate the rush of coding or the like with "sexy". Just like I don't associate the rush of a Heroin dose with "sexy". We all love what we do or we wouldn't do it. I don't need a more emotionally sensitive tech industry.

                          "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                          "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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                          • S Slacker007

                            No offense Marc, but I feel you are taking this way too serious. I don't associate the rush of coding or the like with "sexy". Just like I don't associate the rush of a Heroin dose with "sexy". We all love what we do or we wouldn't do it. I don't need a more emotionally sensitive tech industry.

                            "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
                            "No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011) "But you probably have the smoothest scrotum of any grown man" - Pete O'Hanlon (2012)

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Slacker007 wrote:

                            but I feel you are taking this way too serious.

                            None taken. :)

                            Slacker007 wrote:

                            I don't need a more emotionally sensitive tech industry.

                            Well, my sense of the matter is that we need a more emotionally intelligent tech industry. Though, I really dislike the phrase "emotional intelligence". ;P Marc

                            My Blog
                            The Relationship Oriented Programming IDE
                            Melody's Amazon Herb Site

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